mani sha Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 (edited) Is there anyone in indian set up who can bowl Ike shaheen - Mohsin . Most likely guy who can bowl fast . Can he swing - dayal … another lesser known commodity - arshdeep . Seems to have lost any pace and swing . - Nattu . Always injured tendulkar - more an all rounder but that will also help Yarra prithviraj … unknown . Heard he bowls fast khaleel .. not much swing but some pace Sakarya , unadkat … good net bowlers mukesh .. unknown but decent . feel we need to develop mohsin , khaleel and wildcard yarra . Edited September 2 by mani sha Addition Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 43 minutes ago, mani sha said: Is there anyone in indian set up who can bowl Ike shaheen - Mohsin . Most likely guy who can bowl fast . Can he swing - dayal … another lesser known commodity - arshdeep . Seems to have lost any pace and swing . - Nattu . Always injured tendulkar - more an all rounder but that will also help Yarra prithviraj … unknown . Heard he bowls fast khaleel .. not much swing but some pace Sakarya , unadkat … good net bowlers mukesh .. unknown but decent . feel we need to develop mohsin , khaleel and wildcard yarra . Mukesh Choudhary is the best if you want to prepare for inswing. He moves it at 135-140, already has an experience of flooring down Kishan and Rohit courtesy of his late swing. Mohsin is a bounce bowler, so is Unadkut and Khaleel...Yash has bit of both but not much, Arshdeep is our of rhythm and his trundling pace is of no use. Prithviraj I haven't see so no comments, rest of no use. raki05 and Frustrated 1 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 He's òld now but Aniket Chaudhary was hard done by and should have played for india. He's indias go to guy in the nets tweaker 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, mani sha said: Is there anyone in indian set up who can bowl Ike shaheen - Mohsin . Most likely guy who can bowl fast . Can he swing Mohsin has pace, bounce, height and outswing for RHB. Can't bowl inswing to RHB. He is the best Left Arm quick we have. Edited September 2 by express bowling Lord, raki05 and Mosher 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, mani sha said: Is there anyone in indian set up who can bowl Ike shaheen khaleel .. not much swing but some pace Khaleel can bowl good outswingers to RHB. Has bounce, height and decent pace. 2 hours ago, mani sha said: Mukesh Chowdhary .. Can swing the ball at fast-medium pace and can bowl in-swingers to RHB. Edited September 2 by express bowling raki05, Mosher and mani sha 1 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 2 hours ago, mani sha said: Sakarya Sakaria is a good option for U16 cricket. Bowls at their pace. Frustrated, Number, Norman and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment
Lord Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Mohsin has pace, bounce, height and outswing for RHB. Can't bowl inswing to RHB. He is the best Left Arm quick we have. Left armer without inswing to RHB is toothless First class 1 Link to comment
zen Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 5 hours ago, mani sha said: Is there anyone in indian set up who can bowl Ike shaheen Shaheen is in a different league. Atm, Ind does not have an LA pacer of his caliber. cricketfan28 and Gollum 2 Link to comment
Singh bling Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Shaheen was bowling in late 130s .many indian left arm seamers can bowl at that speed . Only difference is his accuracy and movement. Gollum and raki05 2 Link to comment
First class Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 11 hours ago, mani sha said: Is there anyone in indian set up who can bowl Ike shaheen - Mohsin . Most likely guy who can bowl fast . Can he swing - dayal … another lesser known commodity - arshdeep . Seems to have lost any pace and swing . - Nattu . Always injured tendulkar - more an all rounder but that will also help Yarra prithviraj … unknown . Heard he bowls fast khaleel .. not much swing but some pace Sakarya , unadkat … good net bowlers mukesh .. unknown but decent . feel we need to develop mohsin , khaleel and wildcard yarra . I won;t give up on Arshdeep, looks to me the most talented one from the list. Link to comment
First class Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 6 hours ago, Lord said: Left armer without inswing to RHB is toothless That's the reason Wahab Riaz had a mediocre, not a great career . Could not bring the ball in for RHB , after almost 13 years of international cricket. Link to comment
raki05 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Shaheen occasional ballls goes beyond 140. He primarily operates between 135 to 140. He may be lethal at start but in death overs he is not that great its just that we had shitty lower order or else i have seen other team smoking him badly in death overs. Lets see how he bowls on Indian Pitches against eng , sa and aus. I bet even India has previous era lower order batters likr bhajji, zak along with Bumrah(current)we would have tackled them better. Frustrated, singhvivek141 and express bowling 3 Link to comment
jf1gp_1 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Would have been nice if they had spend energy in grooming Umran. Naseem looked good yesterday, i remember him being to wayward just a few yrs back against aussies i think. raki05 1 Link to comment
singhvivek141 Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 6 hours ago, First class said: That's the reason Wahab Riaz had a mediocre, not a great career . Could not bring the ball in for RHB , after almost 13 years of international cricket. Wahab was dumb, he never used brains while bowling and always relied to much on his back of length deliveries...he had no other weapon except pace. Bowlers, if they can even move the ball away from righties and occasional bowl a straighter one will work if they have pace. Wahab had nothing. Mohsin don't have ability to bowl in but he gets bounce even from the good length at pace of 136-142, Mukesh isn't tall but he is very similar to Boult in terms of pace and move the ball both ways at speed of 134-140. Arshdeep bowls at 128-134 express bowling and raki05 1 1 Link to comment
Axl100mph Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 (edited) 20 hours ago, raki05 said: Shaheen occasional ballls goes beyond 140. He primarily operates between 135 to 140. He may be lethal at start but in death overs he is not that great its just that we had shitty lower order or else i have seen other team smoking him badly in death overs. Lets see how he bowls on Indian Pitches against eng , sa and aus. I bet even India has previous era lower order batters likr bhajji, zak along with Bumrah(current)we would have tackled them better. This current version of Shaheen is 80 per cent of what he was two years ago. Back then he would peak at 151, 152 in high intensity spells, but ever since the elbow issue, he has tried to incorporate more of his right side into his action & in the process lost control of his core extention during the action. His core collapses a lot sooner now hence the pace is down. If he rectifies it, the average pace should come back up. Edited September 4 by Axl100mph raki05 1 Link to comment
wazza Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, Axl100mph said: This current version of Shaheen is 80 per cent of what he was two years ago. Back then he would peak at 151, 152 in high intensity spells, but ever since the elbow issue, he has tried to incorporate more of his right side into his action & in the process lost control of his core extention during the action. His core collapses a lot sooner now hence the pace is down. If he rectifies it, the average pace should come back up. No he is just playing vs weak batsmen.. He isnt that good Link to comment
Gambit Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 So what tournaments has Shaheen won for Pakistan? In fact, he's choked at critical times - a criticism also levelled at Bumrah. Choked against Wade in the 2021 semi-final, hammered by Kohli in his last over against India in the 2022 T20 WC and got injured at a pivotal moment in the 2022 T20 WC final. raki05 and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
Axl100mph Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, wazza said: No he is just playing vs weak batsmen.. He isnt that good Ok jay. Link to comment
Axl100mph Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 3 hours ago, Gambit said: So what tournaments has Shaheen won for Pakistan? In fact, he's choked at critical times - a criticism also levelled at Bumrah. Choked against Wade in the 2021 semi-final, hammered by Kohli in his last over against India in the 2022 T20 WC and got injured at a pivotal moment in the 2022 T20 WC final. "Hammered by kohli" Lmao, playing his first game after injury; clearly at 60 % given how he was rushed in to the tournament, and still ended up as the 2nd highest wicket taker of the tournament. "Got injured in the final" yup that definitely equates to choking lmao. Unreal! Link to comment
Gollum Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Shaheen is a generational talent, true successor of Starc especially in white ball formats. We may unearth 1-2 prospects here and there but nothing earth shattering. Link to comment
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