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7 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

2014 world t20 we lost cos we didnt drop Yuvi due to nostalgia reasons even tho he was beyond horrible in all games.

 

2015 world cup we lost cos we werent good enough to beat Aus.

 

2016 world t20 we lost cos we were taking singles in a belter of a Wankhede track.

 

2017 ct...we performed badly and couldnt recover from fakhar onslaught..and our top 3 couldnt negotiate amir. Plus our middle order was pathetic.

 

2019 wc - we never deserved to win. Serves those losers right for insulting the fans. Dhoni run out was poetic justice.

 

2021 world t20 - toss based tourney. But we werent good anyways.

 

2021 WTC finals - everyone blames not taking the 4th pacer but in reality we lost cos our batsmen and Bumrah completely went missing.

 

2022 world t20 - we werent good enough

 

2023 WTC - Poor batting plus needlessly dropping Ashwin for the 4 pacer template that royally backfired on day 1 and lost us the game then and there.

 

2023 WC - pitch tampering plus medicre strategy plus brainless execution cost us the cup

 

Where is the ill-luck?

 

We just have been supreme phattus and morons and hence we lost every winnable tourney.

2019 NZ won the toss batted on a slow track then it rained next day we batted the ball seamed. That is rotten luck 

Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, CG said:

2019 NZ won the toss batted on a slow track then it rained next day we batted the ball seamed. That is rotten luck 

Yes but it could have easily been overcome by putting together a half decent team that isnt dependent on the top 3.

 

They groomed Rayudu for years only to drop him last moment to pick Vijay Shankar only to drop him mid tourney to pick DK.

 

Add to that Shami drop.

 

And an overhill Dhoni.

 

It was a shitshow.

Edited by sensible-indian
Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, sensible-indian said:

2014 world t20 we lost cos we didnt drop Yuvi due to nostalgia reasons even tho he was beyond horrible in all games.

 

2015 world cup we lost cos we werent good enough to beat Aus.

 

2016 world t20 we lost cos we were taking singles in a belter of a Wankhede track.

 

2017 ct...we performed badly and couldnt recover from fakhar onslaught..and our top 3 couldnt negotiate amir. Plus our middle order was pathetic.

 

2019 wc - we never deserved to win. Serves those losers right for insulting the fans. Dhoni run out was poetic justice.

 

2021 world t20 - toss based tourney. But we werent good anyways.

 

2021 WTC finals - everyone blames not taking the 4th pacer but in reality we lost cos our batsmen and Bumrah completely went missing.

 

2022 world t20 - we werent good enough

 

2023 WTC - Poor batting plus needlessly dropping Ashwin for the 4 pacer template that royally backfired on day 1 and lost us the game then and there.

 

2023 WC - pitch tampering plus medicre strategy plus brainless execution cost us the cup

 

Where is the ill-luck?

 

We just have been supreme phattus and morons and hence we lost every winnable tourney.

 

IMO ill luck is barely winning 2 tosses out of 11 in knockouts since 2014. No matter what you say, toss has a huge bearing in knockouts where the teams are often evenly matched and even a slight advantage means a lot. We lost tosses in both WTC finals, in 2019 semi and had to bat in tougher conditions, lost all tosses in 1021 "win the toss, win the match" T20 WC (Aus won 6 out of 7 tosses in the tourney and only lost one match and that was the one where they lost the toss), lost the toss in 2022 T20 semi, 2105 WC semi where batting first was the way to go.

And it doesn't help the umpires such as Kettleborough don't really do us any favors with umpire call. 2019 WC semi could've gone differently had Kohli gotten the benefit of doubt similar to Labuchagne today. Fact is we've had rotten luck in knockouts and the only thing going in our favor was the Wankhede toss in the semi-final.

Edited by Ultimate_Game
Posted

You can blame luck only if otherwise you do everything right, atleast the basics.

 

Today Rohit threw away a start on a tough pitch and Rahul shut shop too much. Didn't back SKY at 6.

 

While bowling dropped catches and gave runs in field. No pressure applied with spinners giving easy singles.

 

All this is not luck. That's just demeaning Aussies' effort. Thier fielding from ball 1 showed they were up for it. We weren't.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

I know Rohit wanted to keep a brave face and say we would have batted first, to play some mind games. But his body language said otherwise. I doubt anybody would bat first knowing the dew under lights. Hai re kizmet 

Australians beat india in their own game. It prepares a pitch which everyone knows will be batting friendly in second innings but hedged their bets by thinking if aus win toss they ll anyway bat first. If india wins the toss they ll bowl ( don’t believe what Rohit said) So they created heads you win tails you lose. But Aus trumped us by choosing to bowl risking a loss to win the WC by chasing. They already had 5 wc so it didnt really matter. Hats off to them

Edited by neel roy
Posted
3 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Australians beat india in their own game. It prepares a pitch which everyone knows will be batting friendly in second innings but hedged their bets by thinking if aus win toss they ll anyway bat first. If india wins the toss they ll bowl ( don’t believe what Rohit said) So they created heads you win tails you lose. But Aus trumped us by choosing to bowl risking a loss to win the WC by chasing. They already had 5 wc so it didnt really matter. Hats off to them

Its really stupid to assume Aus will bat first though.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Lord said:

Its really stupid to assume Aus will bat first though.

Normal logic says you bat first seeinh what india did to nz

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, neel roy said:

Australians beat india in their own game. It prepares a pitch which everyone knows will be batting friendly in second innings but hedged their bets by thinking if aus win toss they ll anyway bat first. If india wins the toss they ll bowl ( don’t believe what Rohit said) So they created heads you win tails you lose. But Aus trumped us by choosing to bowl risking a loss to win the WC by chasing. They already had 5 wc so it didnt really matter. Hats off to them

If this is honestly what had transpired, I weep for the intelligence of our management.

 

Surely they can't be this dumb.

 

Even leaving that aside, thats such a loser mentality.

 

Though i doubt thats what happened.

 

In all likelihood, the pitch tampering went wrong.

Edited by sensible-indian
Posted
1 minute ago, neel roy said:

Normal logic says you bat first seeinh what india did to nz

SA lost to Aus batting first. Aus had 3 wins chasing this WC IIRC. Afg,SA,SL,

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