Ashwin lauds Aussies' tactical brilliance regarding pitch/Kookaburra

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https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/r-ashwin-admits-india-were-undone-by-tactical-brilliance-and-execution-from-pat-cummins-in-world-cup-final-1410134

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... the "tactical brilliance and tactical execution" of Australia captain Pat Cummins meant India finished as runners-up, as Australia won their their sixth World Cup. This was Ashwin's review of the final, which he spoke about vividly on his YouTube channel this week.

"Pat Cummins was struggling as an ODI bowler heading into the World Cup. But in the last four or five games leading into the final, nearly 50% of the balls he bowled were cutters," Ashwin said.

 

"In the final - I don't know how many people explained it on TV - Cummins bowled to a four-five leg-side field like an offspinner, bowling the stump line. But he bowled only three balls in the six-meter mark or further up on the pitch in his entire ten-over spell. [He] knocked off crucial wickets in the final. The five fielders on the on side were square leg, midwicket, mid-on, deep square leg and long leg, and he bowled his ten overs without a mid-off."

 

Stuff like this makes me wonder ... did India have any tactical moves such as the above and just failed to execute because they lost a couple of quick wickets? Or did they go in with no such considerations because they had won 10 matches without breaking a sweat and were too complacent to plan anything different? Or is Ashwin exaggerating the brilliance of the Ozzies, and it was just one of thoese days where things just didn't work out?

[mishra]

What was indeed needed was Ash to play in place of Siraj and we should have created a spinning track like Lucknow for Finals. Whether anyone likes it or not shouldnt have mattered, but as usual we Indians fell for "Log Kya Sochenge (what impression others will get)"

[Sean Bradley]

Dont know how long Ashwin's career will last as a player, but i see immense future for Ashwin as a tactician maybe in the dressing room, or in the BCCI office, he should not waste his talents. 

[vayuu1]

14 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said:

Dont know how long Ashwin's career will last as a player, but i see immense future for Ashwin as a tactician maybe in the dressing room, or in the BCCI office, he should not waste his talents. 

Kya fayda aisey tactics ka jo jita na paaye 

[figo6762]

I am sorry this is BS .. every person that was watching with a sense of cricket knew they were bowling with scrambled seam and the black soil wouldn’t disintegrate like red soil and dew will make it easy ….. 

India ‘s counter positioning was weak and India lost . Period .. that’s it 

[srgadjon]

43 minutes ago, Sean Bradley said:

Dont know how long Ashwin's career will last as a player, but i see immense future for Ashwin as a tactician maybe in the dressing room, or in the BCCI office, he should not waste his talents. 

Ashwin's problem is over analysis and over thinking. In LOIs and even in tests overseas, he tries too hard when things are not working, instead of keeping things simple and has done below expectations as a result. I hope he doesn't become a coach or tactician, instead should become a commentator or analyst on tv.

[Number]

Ashwin anna you are trying to hide behind this unnecessary hyping of Aussies ?

First tell us, whose great idea this was to prepare such a bad pitch ?

Was it Rohit, was it Dravid or was it You ??

It doesn't take an Einstein, everyone can check a pattern of last few matches and know that this pitch is better under lights. By hyping Aussies you are brushing this debacle under carpet.

Edited November 24, 2023 by Number

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, Number said:

Ashwin anna you are trying to hide behind this unnecessary hyping of Aussies ?

First tell us, whose great idea this was to prepare such a bad pitch ?

Was it Rohit, was it Dravid or was it You ??

It doesn't take an Einstein, everyone can check a pattern of last few matches and know that this pitch is better under lights. By hyping Aussies you are brushing this debacle under carpet.

 

Rahul Dravid most definitely. he was involved in all the pitch rigging in recent times. He did that even in Bangladesh.

 

Dravid meeting Bangladesh curator in his room

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/go-and-ask-mr-dravid-and-the-curator-india-batting-coach-baffled-by-unhappiness-with-pitch-for-2nd-test-question-101671616937251.html

 

Dravid's justification for pathetic pitches in BGT series. He was specific about all the pitches

 

https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/cricket/wtc-reason-behind-tough-pitches-rahul-dravid-1198061.html

 

He is developing for a bad reputation for influencing pitch conditions. Couple of times it already backfired.

[rollingstoned]

3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Rahul Dravid most definitely. he was involved in all the pitch rigging in recent times. He did that even in Bangladesh.

 

Dravid meeting Bangladesh curator in his room

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/go-and-ask-mr-dravid-and-the-curator-india-batting-coach-baffled-by-unhappiness-with-pitch-for-2nd-test-question-101671616937251.html

 

Dravid's justification for pathetic pitches in BGT series. He was specific about all the pitches

 

https://www.deccanherald.com/sports/cricket/wtc-reason-behind-tough-pitches-rahul-dravid-1198061.html

 

He is developing for a bad reputation for influencing pitch conditions. Couple of times it already backfired.

Don't forget the Lucknow curator losing his job after some match. 

[Number]

16 hours ago, figo6762 said:

I am sorry this is BS .. every person that was watching with a sense of cricket knew they were bowling with scrambled seam and the black soil wouldn’t disintegrate like red soil and dew will make it easy ….. 

India ‘s counter positioning was weak and India lost . Period .. that’s it 

So true. He is trying to make Aussies look like genius, while truth is our idiot management played into their hands.

[Gollum]

5 hours ago, Number said:

Ashwin anna you are trying to hide behind this unnecessary hyping of Aussies ?

First tell us, whose great idea this was to prepare such a bad pitch ?

Was it Rohit, was it Dravid or was it You ??

It doesn't take an Einstein, everyone can check a pattern of last few matches and know that this pitch is better under lights. By hyping Aussies you are brushing this debacle under carpet.

Hyping of Aussies is justified. They got their field set, bowling tactics, bowling changes etc. spot on in the final. One of the most clinical performances I have seen especially in the final stage, Cummins had his finest day as skipper, contrast that to our captain having one of his worst days. That decided the match, and the way both teams went I have no doubt Aussies would have won even batting first. Pitch is just an excuse and frankly after 10 years of ICC KO losses, we have run out of excuses. 

[vvvslaxman]

1 hour ago, rollingstoned said:

Don't forget the Lucknow curator losing his job after some match. 

Yes. They found a scape goat and fired him.

[Number]

30 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Hyping of Aussies is justified. They got their field set, bowling tactics, bowling changes etc. spot on in the final. One of the most clinical performances I have seen especially in the final stage, Cummins had his finest day as skipper, contrast that to our captain having one of his worst days. That decided the match, and the way both teams went I have no doubt Aussies would have won even batting first. Pitch is just an excuse and frankly after 10 years of ICC KO losses, we have run out of excuses. 

We were 76 for 1 in 9.4 overs at one point and it didn't look like Aus plans were working.

Once we lost Shreyas we became timid and overly cautious. SENA sides always plan before important matches and you have to be brave to take chances against them to disrupt that planning.

The kind of pitch it was, it brought reverse swing into play after 35th over of first innings and that kind of killed the match.

[Bigg Brother]

They did what was needed for Final, "A bare minimum homework". You are supposed to that as professional team playing in the final. Maybe Ashwin being in this side of dressing isn't used to it and must be impressed and so he should. What Australia did was nothing earth shattering, won the toss and executed the plan, execution is important,too. Unlike India who were just hoping to win the toss and surprise the opponent. India literally didn't have any plans, be it while batting or bowling. Kela played 100-110 balls without any set target in mind as if he was waiting for the day to over, bowlers were gifted wickets-Warner chasing 6th stump ball and Smith becoming victim of bad umpiring. After 47/3, India literally didn't bowl any wicket taking ball,it was like re-watching that 0/151 fiasco against Pakistan- there also we cried about toss-dew-pitch and here we are doing the same- Sign of LOSER this is.

 

This team rightly ended up as 2nd best team.

[Haarkarjeetgaye]

Yeh Rohit Kohli Rahul sab ki le raha hai pyaar se

[figo6762]

Again whole bunch of BS for click baits … if Ash is a true retro he should start by :

 

A. India did not have plan B

B. Aussie did not have a plan B either .. it’s just that the team that gave first lost.. 

C. India lost positive mindset after Iyer …

D. Pitch crap is non sense .. A winning team wins on all pitches and are planned for it ..

E. Both teams saw the pitch yday and India did not run situational awareness within the team .. they were hoping Australia would Falter before India Falters . Not a great strategy .. 

G. Mega captaincy failure while chasing..  Rohit did not keep the fields up .. Rohit brought the spinners when the tastiest were doing the job .. Rohit did not make it hard for every run .. 

F. Again India postured weakness , yet again and again and again .. 

 

 

[vvvslaxman]

On 11/25/2023 at 12:37 AM, Number said:

We were 76 for 1 in 9.4 overs at one point and it didn't look like Aus plans were working.

Once we lost Shreyas we became timid and overly cautious. SENA sides always plan before important matches and you have to be brave to take chances against them to disrupt that planning.

The kind of pitch it was, it brought reverse swing into play after 35th over of first innings and that kind of killed the match.

 

This is why it is important to structure your team to handle any odd ball scenarios. So they have 8 bowling options. 5 aggresive batsmen, 2 solid tail. 2 consolidators.

Not to forget Labu as a fielder adds 25 runs and efw wickets as well. So are others. Your team cannot have too many one-dimensional players. At some point it will bite you. It did in 2019. It did in 2023. Your team cannot hope for "perfect games" every time they walk out. There are some scenarios this INdian team is capable of going from

 

Dominating -> Extremely mediocre. Which is what happened int he final

 

Warner - Aggressive

Head - Aggressive + Can bowl

Marsh - Aggressive + Can bowl

Smith -  Consolidator

Labu - Consolidator + can bowl

Maxwell - Aggressive + bowls

Jos Inglis - Aggressive

Cummins - Can bat

Starc - Can bat

Hazlewood

Zampa

 

 

[Lord]

Nothing brilliant, India were just caught napping.

[VT87]

Cricket is always governed by luck factor and yes this Aus team is nothing brilliant they were just plane lucky I’m 200% sure if they have batted first would not have crossed 200  and people forgetting there were two games already played on same venue and won by easily in second half.Pakistan was a good position at 30 overs mark and lost 8 wickets in just span of time  .the pitch was utter disgrace and became slow and slow as the game was progressed  .the movement they won the toss they knew they have advantage  and the average score on batting first is  251 on the garbage venue

[vvvslaxman]

9 hours ago, Lord said:

Nothing brilliant, India were just caught napping.

 

When you have too many one-dimensional players it is bound to happen.  Because of pathetic tail batting KL Rahul preemptively shut the shop way way too early. Once they got dismissed we had this 360 degree fluke and strokeless wonder Jaddu who had no wherewithals to take it from there. Last 40 overs of the final was a dark phase in Indian world cup history.