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'What does Ashwin bring with the bat, or as a fielder?': Yuvraj says India spinner 'doesn't deserve' to play ODIs, T20Is

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'What does Ashwin bring with the bat, or as a fielder?': Yuvraj says India spinner 'doesn't deserve' to play ODIs, T20Is

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Yuvraj Singh has passed a bold verdict on Ravichandran Ashwin's white-ball career, declaring the 37-year-old spinner as unworthy of playing ODIs and T20Is. Ashwin's limited-overs run has been a roller-coaster ride, first losing his place to Kuldeep Yadav and Yuzvendra Chahal in 2017 and since making sporadic appearances for one or the other tournament. Ashwin last featured in the 2023 World Cup for India as a last-minute replacement for the injured Axar Patel, but surprisingly featured in just one match, picking 1/34 against Australia in Chennai.

With the Indian team making it crystal clear that it's priority for the lower order is to include more bowlers who can bat, Ashwin, despite scoring five Test centuries, doesn't warrant a place in either the ODI or the T20I side as per Yuvraj, who has pointed fingers at the veteran's batting and fielding contributions.

 

"Ashwin is a great bowler but I don't think he deserves a place in ODIs and T20s. He is very good with the ball, but what does he bring with the bat? Or as a fielder? In the Test team, yes, he should be there. But in white-ball cricket, I don't think he deserves a place," Yuvraj, a two-time World Cup winner, told Times of India.

 

Ashwin's fluctuating ODI and T20Is fortunes

 

Between 2011 and the beginning of 2017, Ashwin was an indispensable part of the Indian white-ball set-up. With 156 wickets in 116 ODIs and 72 strikes from 65 T20Is, isn't bad. But when Virat Kohli was captain, he got left behind in the pecking order due to the emergence of 'Kul-Cha'. Even when Kuldeep and Chahal started to fade, India never actively went back to Ashwin; however, when it comes to World Cups, Ashwin emerges out of the blue.

 

At the 2021 T20 World Cup in the UAE, Ashwin got the nod over Chahal, and after missing the games against Pakistan and New Zealand, he played against Afghanistan, Scotland and Namibia before playing the NZ T20Is at home. Ashwin was suddenly given a slightly longer run in T20Is between November of 2021 and 2022, playing 19 matches, including six games at the World Cup in Australia. He was dropped thereafter and hasn't returned in the shortest-format for India since.

 

Ashwin's ODI tale in the last seven years is even more fascinating. After 2017, Ashwin was called back for the ODIs against South Africa in January of 2022 before he disappeared again. And to no surprise, was back in time just ahead of the World Cup. After grabbing 3/41 against Australia in a high-scoring contest at Indore, the theory 'Ashwin for World Cup' started doing the rounds. With Axar grappling a quadriceps injury, Ashwin was back, just like that, in India's quest to win the ultimate prize.

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He is 100% right. Sundar also should not be in any whiteball teams either.

 

You need to add lot of value with bat if you are an offspinner to find a place in whiteball squads.

 

It is not his fault that useless fellow like Chahal add nothing and are reason why this guy was brought back.

 

He hardly played during world cup.

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True, but why is he talking about it now when Ashwin is not in consideration for white ball format anyway. 

He was in the WC squad only because Axar was injured and it was a home tournament. And he played only 1 game. No way is he going to be picked for white ball again, so the point is moot.

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22 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Hope Yuvraj is as honest about some of the other players. Easy going after soft targets. 

Exactly. Soft targets and moot decisions. Nobody was going to consider Ashwin for white ball cricket anyway. His world cup inclusion was a last minute decision because Axar was injured and he was going to be a back up anyway. And with that his white ball career for India has already ended

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5 minutes ago, bowl_out said:

Exactly. Soft targets and moot decisions. Nobody was going to consider Ashwin for white ball cricket anyway. His world cup inclusion was a last minute decision because Axar was injured and he was going to be a back up anyway. And with that his white ball career for India has already ended

He has personal grudge when it comes to Ashwin, because the latter rightly dropped him in some IPL season for Punjab, by then Yuvraj was a waste of space. 

 

He is right here but same can be said about 5-6 players in our team. Rohit is still playing T20Is after flopping in 5-6 consecutive WT20s. Same with Jadeja. Shami was never a T20 bowler..... 

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I still remember how him and bhajji still cry about not playing in wc19. Sore looser these 2 are. Not that I endorse ashwin selection in white ball format, but if his criteria is bowler should know batting which other bowlers or spinners qualify in that criteria.

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10 hours ago, Gollum said:

Hope Yuvraj is as honest about some of the other players. Easy going after soft targets. 

Exactly. What about useless fatwad rohit. In t20 he only sucks.

Kl Rahul? He sucks too

A few others I am forgetting. We even played rahane in the past. Not a word was uttered then. 

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5 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Ashwin has been out of the race for a long time. He was in the WC squad only because Axar got injured and India needed a spinner for Indian conditions. He played a grand total of one match.  This guy is looking more ugly with his grudge against Ashwin. Unbelievable stuff from Yuvi.

He is a world cup winner and needs to be respected but enough is enough. Ashwin isn't a t20 bowler anyway.

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Lord Grand Master

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22 hours ago, vvvslaxman said:

Ashwin has been out of the race for a long time. He was in the WC squad only because Axar got injured and India needed a spinner for Indian conditions. He played a grand total of one match.  This guy is looking more ugly with his grudge against Ashwin. Unbelievable stuff from Yuvi.

 

Still he was selected above Sundar. Ashwin PR is massive. Played 2022 WT20 too. Might play this year WT20 too.

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On 1/17/2024 at 1:55 AM, coffee_rules said:

Who are thr others who can bowl good and bat a bit other than Axar, Sundar (not the same calibre bowler) . Tewatiya can play only T20s and is not that good a bowler. Ashhwin got in the WC team based in TINA factor.

 

How is it TINA if Sundar was there? What factor caused him to play WT20 2022.

I'd select a batsman first who can bowl bit of finger spin. Someone like Tilak,Parag,Jaiswal. No. 7 should be batting AR but only possible if there 2 more bowling options in top 6

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