We can't carry this version of Rohit Sharma to the WT20

[Suhaan]

Just now, kosingh said:

 

That's not changing.  No coach or selector is getting rid of these boobs. More fun following bilaterals where oldies choose to rest. In those games the team has much stronger players.

Toh ye bolo na,we have tasted success with noob(in terms of experience) sides in the past

[zen]

Lots of minnows (Canada, USA, …)  to bash in the World Cup. 

Can’t be judged based on one bad game against an inform team  

[Manucrick]

25 minutes ago, kosingh said:

 

That's not changing.  No coach or selector is getting rid of these boobs. More fun following bilaterals where oldies choose to rest. In those games the team has much stronger players.

So true 2023 India vs South Africa odi series i really enjoyed that series young indian players played really well in that series 

[jf1gp_1]

9 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

This is beyond a joke. It's so clear the guy's done. If he had any shame he would opt out of the tourney himself. And the problem is not his intent - he's trying his best but his skill, reflexes and fitness is simply not there. Literally, every opener in IPL is better than him. We already have a lot of passengers in the team  - Chahal, Siraj, Avesh, Arshdeep, Axar, Jadeja - and we can't afford to carry a non-performing passenger at the top of the order as well.

 

Essentially, all our eggs are in the Jaiswal bucket. If he goes early, Rohit can't do shyte, and Kohli will be in "consolidation" mode. And it's not as if we've hitters down the order. Jadeja at 7 can't hit, and our bowlers can't hold the bat. We neither have decent bowling (bar Bumrah), and nor are we a good fielding side. Our only option is to score enough runs somehow, but with this current version of Rohit, that's not gonna happen.

 

When others open with likes of Head, Warner/Marsh, Buttler, Bairstow, Conway, Fin Allen, we go with Rohit. At the moment, even Pak with Babar and Rizwan would be better than us. Surely, we have to make a last minute change, and better sense prevails. We've to make a few changes as this current lost can't get past Super 8s.

We first saw need for new approach in t20 during wc21. In wc22 it was evident overhauls were required.  Lets see when we learn our lesson 

[New guy]

12 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

This is the team I would field for those over 40 Legend/Masters series

They will choke in that too

[Bigg Brother]

We can't carry any version of Rohit even as waterboy. He was done in T20 long ago.

[Lord]

He's been a fraud in T20 for long time

 

Also unfit,can't bowl 

 

Perfect for captaincy

 

 

[Lord]

 

[Ultimate_Game]

7 hours ago, jf1gp_1 said:

We first saw need for new approach in t20 during wc21. In wc22 it was evident overhauls were required.  Lets see when we learn our lesson 

 

We learn the same lessons every tourney, make a few changes in the bi-lateral series, the new-look team looks good, and before the next tourney the old guard is magically back.

 

Same old story of the last 4 years at least.

[Ultimate_Game]

10 hours ago, Suhaan said:

Dhoni used same logic to drag his career and cost India atleast 2-3 ICC trophies

Dhoni was just a body on the ground,who could do nothing in later part of his career

Rohit,Kohli are just following the shamelessness from dhoni

 

Doesn't matter if he was a "body on the ground". Results matter. When you're able to win 3 tourneys, essentially 60% (3 out of 5) of all the ICC tourneys we've won in our history, you get that leeway. And he has proven his approach is not luck or flash in the pan as 3 times can't be luck when the current lot can't even fluke even one over the last decade.

 

I'll be fine with Rohit, Kohli etc. following the Dhoni approach as long as they deliver those tourneys. The big difference is that Dhoni did while Rohit & Kohli have done zilch. I'll take that shamelessness if it gets me 3 ICC tourneys.

[vvvslaxman]

1 minute ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Doesn't matter if he was a "body on the ground". Results matter. When you're able to win 3 tourneys, essentially 60% (3 out of 5) of all the ICC tourneys we've won in our history, you get that leeway. And he has proven his approach is not luck or flash in the pan as 3 times can't be luck when the current lot can't even fluke even one over the last decade.

 

I'll be fine with Rohit, Kohli etc. following the Dhoni approach as long as they deliver those tourneys. The big difference is that Dhoni did while Rohit & Kohli have done zilch. I'll take that shamelessness if it gets me 3 ICC tourneys.

 

Kohli is generally clueless in LOI. Rohit is an ignorant buffoon. He misses some of the most obvious match ups, strategies, tactics on the field. Cummins totally outcaptained him by using the long boundary with into the pitch stuffs.

This guy didn't even have slips. Didn't back Ashwin even after knowing Head has issue against off spin.

[Ultimate_Game]

21 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Kohli is generally clueless in LOI. Rohit is an ignorant buffoon. He misses some of the most obvious match ups, strategies, tactics on the field. Cummins totally outcaptained him by using the long boundary with into the pitch stuffs.

This guy didn't even have slips. Didn't back Ashwin even after knowing Head has issue against off spin.

 

Couldn't agree more. On that pitch I would've done exactly what we did against Aussies in 2011 Q/F at Motera. We opened with Ashwin and simply didn't allow them to get a move along. This was a similar pitch and with Head at the top of the order. Ashwin was a no-brainer especially when Siraj was so inconsistent. Really thought we would go with Ashwin in place of Siraj in that game, and didn't expect Rohit to be so clueless.

[Lord]

56 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

 

Kohli is generally clueless in LOI. Rohit is an ignorant buffoon. He misses some of the most obvious match ups, strategies, tactics on the field. Cummins totally outcaptained him by using the long boundary with into the pitch stuffs.

This guy didn't even have slips. Didn't back Ashwin even after knowing Head has issue against off spin.

 

no slips and used Siraj as 5th bowler

[Vijy]

Just now, Lord said:

 

no slips and used Siraj as 5th bowler

utterly tripe captaincy. totally deserved to lose. also the horrible MO batting by Idiot Iyer, Midget Kela, Feckless SKY, Missing Jaddu, and so forth.

[Suhaan]

1 hour ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

Doesn't matter if he was a "body on the ground". Results matter. When you're able to win 3 tourneys, essentially 60% (3 out of 5) of all the ICC tourneys we've won in our history, you get that leeway. And he has proven his approach is not luck or flash in the pan as 3 times can't be luck when the current lot can't even fluke even one over the last decade.

 

I'll be fine with Rohit, Kohli etc. following the Dhoni approach as long as they deliver those tourneys. The big difference is that Dhoni did while Rohit & Kohli have done zilch. I'll take that shamelessness if it gets me 3 ICC tourneys.

That is the real main issue,you can't have that leverage

Dhoni has balanced his ICC wins with almost equal number of losses not counting his beyond pathetic test captaincy

I know Dhoni was another level to the leadership skills of these clowns,still Dhoni dragged his career by 4 years

Nor was he batting well to merit a place,Rohit and Kohli are way past their sell by date

Both of them should have called it a day after Nov 19 to leave the space for newcomers atleast in t20s

And I know these leeches won't go eyeing 2027 WC

Both are shameless to the core

[Ultimate_Game]

6 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

That is the real main issue,you can't have that leverage

Dhoni has balanced his ICC wins with almost equal number of losses not counting his beyond pathetic test captaincy

I know Dhoni was another level to the leadership skills of these clowns,still Dhoni dragged his career by 4 years

Nor was he batting well to merit a place,Rohit and Kohli are way past their sell by date

Both of them should have called it a day after Nov 19 to leave the space for newcomers atleast in t20s

And I know these leeches won't go eyeing 2027 WC

Both are shameless to the core

 

I'm ok with even a 30% track record. Give me 3 trophies out of 10. So far Kohli and Rohit are batting 0/10. In Tests Dhoni wasn't that good - he was a white-ball guy and that's why quit Test captaincy.

 

But after Dhoni, even with better bowling (Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, Ashwin, Jadeja etc.) we haven't won even a single tourney while Dhoni was able to win with the likes of RP Singh, Sreesanth, Munaf, Ishant etc. Kohli & Rohit have simply wasted our best bowling lineup in our history due to poor selection or choking. They've to be held accountable for that. All well and good going after Dhoni but he gave up captaincy nearly a decade ago and did deliver 3 ICC cups.

[Suhaan]

Just now, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I'm ok with even a 30% track record. Give me 3 trophies out of 10. So far Kohli and Rohit are batting 0/10. In Tests Dhoni wasn't that good - he was a white-ball guy and that's why quit Test captaincy.

 

But after Dhoni, even with better bowling (Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, Ashwin, Jadeja etc.) we haven't won even a single tourney while Dhoni was able to win with the likes of RP Singh, Sreesanth, Munaf, Ishant etc. Kohli & Rohit have simply wasted our best bowling lineup in our history due to poor selection or choking. They've to be held accountable for that. All well and good going after Dhoni but he gave up captaincy nearly a decade ago and did deliver 3 ICC cups.

Because Dhoni was a good tactician,noone is denying that

I'm against people who overstay,yaar CT ko mat Gina karo

Kohli and Rohit don't have the tactical genius of Dhoni,they can't read the pitch

Cant make even normal field placements

Cant make proper bowling changes

Rohit was literally overbowling Bumrah before IPL

[Vijy]

10 minutes ago, Suhaan said:

Because Dhoni was a good tactician,noone is denying that

I'm against people who overstay,yaar CT ko mat Gina karo

Kohli and Rohit don't have the tactical genius of Dhoni,they can't read the pitch

Cant make even normal field placements

Cant make proper bowling changes

Rohit was literally overbowling Bumrah before IPL

rohit is the worst. Kohli made some notable selection blunders in tests, but we had a good pace attack. under rohit, the worst kind of dross is playing in all formats.

[Nikola]

Rohit shouldn't have played 2021 t20 worldcup leave 2022 or 2024. He was good in odi worldcup but that is different format. Does okay in test too so can continue for short period.

[goose]

physically, literally, metaphorically, and emotionally.