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G_B_ Mentor

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The higher growth you speak of was on the backs of reforms enacted by Rao and Abv. One is congress and other is the bjp. We all know how Rao was treated by Congress.

 

Unfortunately indians have a tendency to punish reformers. Rao was felled by Mandal politics and looks like Modi suffered a backlash as well in 2024.

 

Name one major economic bill/reform like GST the cong gov passed from 2004 to 2014? I can name welfare schemes like Mnegra. 

 

Forget reform. Air India was privatised  by Modi gov. Abv started the sell off, of many state entities. 

 

Not saying welfare schemes are not important. But it's very easy saying higher growth when your term happened to be just after more than a decade of reform.

 

Once the party was over in 2008, the money for the welfare schemes dried up around 2011/2012 onwards. India became a fragile 5 economic nation in 2013...

 

Sonia gandhi has welfare policies. Not economic policies. 

mishra Grand Master

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12 hours ago, G_B_ said:

The higher growth you speak of was on the backs of reforms enacted by Rao and Abv. One is congress and other is the bjp. We all know how Rao was treated by Congress.

 

Unfortunately indians have a tendency to punish reformers. Rao was felled by Mandal politics and looks like Modi suffered a backlash as well in 2024.

 

Name one major economic bill/reform like GST the cong gov passed from 2004 to 2014? I can name welfare schemes like Mnegra. 

 

Forget reform. Air India was privatised  by Modi gov. Abv started the sell off, of many state entities. 

 

Not saying welfare schemes are not important. But it's very easy saying higher growth when your term happened to be just after more than a decade of reform.

 

Once the party was over in 2008, the money for the welfare schemes dried up around 2011/2012 onwards. India became a fragile 5 economic nation in 2013...

 

Sonia gandhi has welfare policies. Not economic policies. 

When Rahul and opposition leaders are saying that they can give Rs 1 lakh to women and unemployed, they know that GoI can afford it.

 

People are not looking at why GoI was unable to afford it before 2014. Answer is because government and India has worked hard and smartly,  day and Night since 2014 to reach that level.

 

TBH, Welfare is good and indeed needed for India. But most welfare schemes (specially costly ones) are going to a voter which is communal (Its communal globally) and can not live with any other religion be in West or East. That communities ideology can only create SUdan, Pakistan, Afghanistan. Democracy does not mean equality. It only means majoritarianism and mobocracy to them on Communal lines. Secularism is means for them to practice and protect Jihadist/conversion nature.

 

Opposition is simply coming up with policicies which is for their vote bank. BJP should do exactly same.

G_B_ Mentor

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That I agree.

 

This sabka saath simply does not work.

 

Better targeted policies the need of the hour.

 

Forget economic reform. India is in strong fiscal position post covid. Use that to go heads in on targeted welfare schemes.

 

Else you will make tough calls and welfare queen's like sonia will pocket dividends. 

 

 

 

 

mishra Grand Master

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On 6/16/2024 at 3:07 PM, Singh bling said:

 

BTW Sonia manmohan rule had much better growth rate than Indira or Rajiv's rule. 

Growth rate was in cruise control mode on back of Narsimha MMS policies. Corruption was only contribution of Congress under Sonia rule. When global economy tanked, Indis showed. 0 resilience and Mms was shown way out by voters

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mishra Grand Master

mishra

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43 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

Gunde mawaaliwali dhamki with 99 seats. This is a threat to democracy. I don’t think there will be any debate in the parliament. Gaaliwali bai ka  aukat dekho 

 

 

But what will Rahulji speak? Less he speaks, better its for Common ngress

mishra Grand Master

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https://time.com/6985284/india-modi-reelection-significance/

 

Kugleman argues Modi 3.0 could pottentially transition of India  from middle Power to a Great Power.

 

I am not so sure about it.

 

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Some time ago, India achieved the status of a middle power: a country with a deep global footprint and heavy strategic importance, but not strong enough to ascend to the upper echelon of world powers. The reelection of Prime Minister Narendra Modi positions India to begin a transition from a middle to a major power. But that shift won’t be easy.

Modi will begin his third term on June 8 with a smaller mandate, and he will need to rely on coalition partners, who agreed to back him on Wednesday, to govern. But less political space won’t have a major impact on foreign policy, because there’s broad multipartisan support for Modi’s longstanding priority of deepening India’s role—and power—on the global stage.

India has truly come into its own as a top international actor. It’s the world’s most populous country. It has the fifth-largest economy (growing at one of the world’s fastest rates). It boasts one of the most rapidly expanding tech sectors. And, following its lunar landing last year, it’s now a formal space power.

Modi has plenty of motivations to leverage these achievements and accelerate India’s climb up the world’s power hierarchy. He has long prioritized strengthening India’s role in the world. The election manifesto of his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) in 2014, the year he first became premier, vowed to build “a strong, self-reliant, self-confident India, regaining its rightful place in the comity of nations.”

 

Modi’s signature ideology, Hindu nationalism, is about making India stronger abroad, not just at home. Modi also views Hindu nationalism as a soft power tool; he promises to institute a program to highlight Lord Ram’s legacy abroad.

Modi has already done much to advance India’s global rise. He’s gained it membership in an array of global forums, from a new quad arrangement with the U.S., the UAE, and Israel to the prestigious Missile Technology Control Regime. Modi solidified India’s status as a net security provider, increasing arms sales to Indo-Pacific partners and projecting naval power in the Middle East to protect and assist ships targeted by missiles and piracy.

 

To the world, expanding Indian global power in a third Modi term presents opportunities and obstacles alike. Washington and like-minded allies could have an increasingly formidable partner to counter China. The Global South, the causes of which Modi has increasingly sought to champion, will have a powerful advocate. For capital-rich companies and countries, massive Indian consumer markets will beckon. Last month, external affairs minister S Jaishankar described his boss as a leader with “networking, standing, and respect.” He’s not wrong: most governments are keen to engage with Modi’s India.

But India’s growing global clout could raise some red flags. New Delhi’s embrace of multipolarity, through efforts to empower the Global South and strengthen multilateral organizations (including those it belongs to that counter the West), risks diluting U.S. power. India’s growing power also brings into sharper relief a fundamental conundrum for the West: How to square the strategic imperatives of partnership with an accelerating Indian illiberalism that fuels transnational repression—including some allegedly carried out on Western soil. But none of this will reverse India’s deepening security relations with Washington—a concern for Beijing and Moscow.

Admittedly, this may be putting the cart before the horse. India’s path to great powerdom, while possible under Modi, is not inevitable. To get there, he’ll need to make extensive course corrections.

One is hardwiring India’s economy for longer term stability and sustainability. Youth unemployment ranges from 44 to 54% for those in their 20s—staggering figures in a country where half the population is under 30. India needs more jobs and more skilled workers to accommodate fast-growing sectors and truly transform its economy into a global juggernaut.

India must also get a handle on its China challenge. It’s struggled mightily to deter its main strategic competitor. Chinese forces periodically stage border incursions and have built villages and roads on land India claims as its own. China is rapidly developing the capacity to project power in the Indian Ocean—from its western reaches, home to China’s only overseas military base, to areas to the east near the Andaman Sea, where India has territorial assets. An aspiring great power can’t afford to be bogged down by its biggest rival so close to home.

Furthermore, India needs institutional fixes, like steps to accelerate the implementation of defense reforms and to increase the size of its diplomatic corps.

Another big challenge is the world itself. It’s undergoing severe churn and fraught with furious geopolitical competition.

India has traditionally navigated great power rivalry by doubling down on its core foreign policy principle of strategic autonomy, balancing ties with competing powers and avoiding alliances to maximize flexibility. But if current trends hold, and geopolitical competition and instability keep intensifying, Modi may find himself under growing pressure to get off the fence.

Still, he’s passed two tough recent tests. New Delhi has maintained close ties with Moscow, its longtime partner, since the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which India has declined to condemn, while managing to keep relations warm with the U.S. Meanwhile, it’s backing Israel’s war in Gaza, justifying it as a necessary counterterrorism move, even as its strong ties with the Palestinians and Arab capitals remain intact.

From this balancing act, India derives a unique form of global influence: It defies the polarization of power politics, straddling competing camps and positioning itself as a bridge and potential mediator.

Modi pledges to make India a Vishwaguru—a teacher and leader of the world. During his third term, India may strive to teach the world how a rising power can stay true to its founding foreign policy principle, even while staking out greater leadership in a changing world order.

 

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diga Grand Master

diga

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52 minutes ago, ravishingravi said:

Seems like 3.0 has begun with very tough signalling to China and firmly taking sides with US. 

 

We are heading towards a major confrontation. 

Did we signal to China or was it US? I am confused... 

 

With Dalai Lama's age, there is a need to find a political successor if not a spiritual one to unite the Tibetians... It will not be easy transition.

 

PS: As I understand, the spiritual successor will come from a child born in China with all the matching astrological signs 

diga Grand Master

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For the people who missed , Nancy Pelosi said this in Dharmashala today while visiting the Dalai Lama : “You, the president of China (Xi Jinping), you’ll be gone and no one will give you credit for anything”

 

 

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ravishingravi Grand Master

ravishingravi

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52 minutes ago, diga said:

Did we signal to China or was it US? I am confused... 

 

With Dalai Lama's age, there is a need to find a political successor if not a spiritual one to unite the Tibetians... It will not be easy transition.

 

PS: As I understand, the spiritual successor will come from a child born in China with all the matching astrological signs 

 

Tough to Chinese I think. This plus responding to Taiwan plus no congratulatory message from China. 

 

Think China has support opposition in India. Modi might choose side more clearly now. 

Mariyam Grand Master

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On 6/21/2024 at 1:53 PM, Lone Wolf said:

Everyone is cooking Vishwaguru these days

Some people of Raita wing  also think he is compromised by CIA lol

@Gollum

 

The tweet is in very poor taste.

 

His handling of what happened in Jammu shouldn't be judged by sound bytes or tweets or their lack.

 

He is the PM of those people he has clicked/ photo op-ed for a selfie with.

Also its warped to call this appeasement. How exactly does this selfie help those attending the camp?

If anything they could be identified and attacked by terrorists. 

 

Lazy logic to tie in everything to bash a party/person one doesn't like. 

 

 

Lone Wolf Grand Master

Lone Wolf

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1 hour ago, Mariyam said:

The tweet is in very poor taste.

 

His handling of what happened in Jammu shouldn't be judged by sound bytes or tweets or their lack.

 

He is the PM of those people he has clicked/ photo op-ed for a selfie with.

Also its warped to call this appeasement. How exactly does this selfie help those attending the camp?

If anything they could be identified and attacked by terrorists. 

 

Lazy logic to tie in everything to bash a party/person one doesn't like. 

 

 

Lol terrorists won't attack one of their own... There is a reason they don't go after Muslims of Kashmir otherwise they can forget about local support... Talk about committing suicide.

 

These are all PR stunts for Vishwaguru and his supposed silence on Jammu Reasi victims means he is under Foreign pressure to do these stunts... perhaps he wants to wash his image as a so called dictator by foreign media and become Mahamanav.

 

Just non stop appeasement politics while patriotic people in Jammu suffer with terrorism and lack of development.

Safety has gone for a toss and he cares about friggin Yoga with Kashmiris lol 

 

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coffee_rules Grand Master

coffee_rules

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5 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Lol terrorists won't attack one of their own... There is a reason they don't go after Muslims of Kashmir otherwise they can forget about local support... Talk about committing suicide.

 

These are all PR stunts for Vishwaguru and his supposed silence on Jammu Reasi victims means he is under Foreign pressure to do these stunts... perhaps he wants to wash his image as a so called dictator by foreign media and become Mahamanav.

 

Just non stop appeasement politics while patriotic people in Jammu suffer with terrorism and lack of development.

Safety has gone for a toss and he cares about friggin Yoga with Kashmiris lol 

 

 

I don't know about foreign pressure, it seems like he is being advised by somebody to show such pictures to show he is not anti-muslim as t turned out during the elections. They havce used regualr media to show what the government is doing for these terrorist incidents in Jammu, but at least some 2nd tier leaders should speak out if not Sahab. They are still waiting for instructions from Sahab I guess. IT cell is still involved in creating Modi reels for Modi 3.0 , it will be intolerable for all.

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