Rohit Kohli and Bumrah to be rested for SL ODIs Rahul/Pandya to lead- Reports

[Frustrated]

14 minutes ago, Chaos said:

for the time in my life …i dont know who i hate more … kela or pooks or both combined.

We need to send Kela to Pak. He can easily walk into Pooks playing11.   Only thing is he needs to change his religion.  Maybe BCCI can rename him from Kela to 'Khaleel' & fly him to Lahore.  

[Chaos]

16 minutes ago, Frustrated said:

We need to send Kela to Pak. He can easily walk into Pooks playing11.   Only thing is he needs to change his religion.  Maybe BCCI can rename him from Kela to 'Khaleel' & fly him to Lahore.  

Or keluddin Ul Huq.

[Number]

45 minutes ago, Kron said:

Kela is a nice guy man tbh

I dont hate him but gee he is one bad luck mother*er and is just so mentally fragile. Definitely pooks lol

Luck definitely an issue with him. I have no doubts had he survived a little more he would have made up for those dot balls in the finals.

 

66 (107) could be 85(120) which would look respectable and make him a MOTM contender had we won.

 

But out of nowhere Starc bowled a fcking huge reverse swinger.. unplayable. How unlucky one has to be to get that kind of a delivery on that surface.

Edited July 9, 2024 by Number

[Kron]

30 minutes ago, Number said:

Luck definitely an issue with him. I have no doubts had he survived a little more he would have made up for those dot balls in the finals.

 

66 (107) could be 85(120) which would look respectable and make him a MOTM contender had we won.

 

But out of nowhere Starc bowled a fcking huge reverse swinger.. unplayable. How unlucky one has to be to get that kind of a delivery on that surface.

40 more runs we would have won that easily. Also dropped catch of bumrah and no slip for kuldeep

[Chaos]

7 minutes ago, Kron said:

40 more runs we would have won that easily. Also dropped catch of bumrah and no slip for kuldeep

why go back to nov 2023. I hate that day n stop reminding me of that day.. that day never happened. Only thing i remember is we had a sexy 10 bedroom house abnb 20mins away from disney world …which also sucked cu of 100000s of kids n rain. So yea i hate that day.

Edited July 9, 2024 by Chaos

[Manucrick]

16 hours ago, Prabhdeep Singh said:

Replace Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah with Jaiswal, Gaikwad and Arshdeep for the ODI's.

 

Jaiswal

Gill

Gaikwad

S Iyer

KL (WK)

H Pandya (C)

R Jadeja

Axar

Kuldeep

Arshdeep

Shami

 

Siraj

Samson (WK)

Pant (WK)

Sundar

 

Sanju should play at 3 last time India play sanju score a 100. Not that kl Rahul 2.0 gaikwad

[Laaloo]

1 hour ago, Kron said:

40 more runs we would have won that easily. Also dropped catch of bumrah and no slip for kuldeep

Yeah England defended 280 against Australia a week before on that pitch 

[Ultimate_Game]

10 hours ago, RajBan said:

Personally I will like to give Venky Iyer a run ahead of Shreyas. While Shreyas is decent to good against specific oppositions/conditions, Venky Iyer seems to have a the game and mindset for most conditions and bowling variations looking equally comfortable against pace and bounce as well as spin. And he can also go toe to toe with the senior Iyer in terms of explosiveness.

 

Jaiswal

Gill

Sai Sudarshan

Venky Iyer

Pant

Rinku

 

 

I will like to give that batting lineup a shot for 12-15 ODIs  and see how it works.

 

 

I wouldn't mind going with Venky either as he was treated unfairly the last time he was given a chance. He was pretty decent but was discarded, and deserved a longer run. But in ODIs I would still prefer Shreyas Iyer for 2 reasons:

 

1. He has the game for ODIs and Venky's performances are mostly in T20s and that's where I would prefer Venky over Shreyas. For me Venky in T20Is and Shreyas in ODIs.

 

2. Shreyas had a pretty decent ODI WC in 2023 and in fact was our middle order enforcer. It was his knock in SF which put the game past NZ else we were pottering to a score of 330 before he started attacking. He got out for a duck in the final but he was trying to be aggressive. You can't penalize a batsman for playing aggressively when that is exactly what's missing from our team.

 

 

[Lord]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I wouldn't mind going with Venky either as he was treated unfairly the last time he was given a chance. He was pretty decent but was discarded, and deserved a longer run. But in ODIs I would still prefer Shreyas Iyer for 2 reasons:

 

1. He has the game for ODIs and Venky's performances are mostly in T20s and that's where I would prefer Venky over Shreyas. For me Venky in T20Is and Shreyas in ODIs.

 

2. Shreyas had a pretty decent ODI WC in 2023 and in fact was our middle order enforcer. It was his knock in SF which put the game past NZ else we were pottering to a score of 330 before he started attacking. He got out for a duck in the final but he was trying to be aggressive. You can't penalize a batsman for playing aggressively when that is exactly what's missing from our team.

 

 

 

only problem is next WC is in SA. I'd rather select a youngster who can play short ball

 

No shortage of batting talent for us

[RajBan]

3 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

I wouldn't mind going with Venky either as he was treated unfairly the last time he was given a chance. He was pretty decent but was discarded, and deserved a longer run. But in ODIs I would still prefer Shreyas Iyer for 2 reasons:

 

1. He has the game for ODIs and Venky's performances are mostly in T20s and that's where I would prefer Venky over Shreyas. For me Venky in T20Is and Shreyas in ODIs.

 

2. Shreyas had a pretty decent ODI WC in 2023 and in fact was our middle order enforcer. It was his knock in SF which put the game past NZ else we were pottering to a score of 330 before he started attacking. He got out for a duck in the final but he was trying to be aggressive. You can't penalize a batsman for playing aggressively when that is exactly what's missing from our team.

 

 

My primary concern with Shreyas is his weakness with pace and bounce. Good fast bowling always troubles him 

[Ultimate_Game]

1 hour ago, Lord said:

 

only problem is next WC is in SA. I'd rather select a youngster who can play short ball

 

No shortage of batting talent for us

 

SA pitches are quite flat and are leaning towards batting pitches these days. IMO Iyer is good enough to succeed. Somehow I like Iyer but as you said we've enough batting talent either way 

[Ultimate_Game]

48 minutes ago, RajBan said:

My primary concern with Shreyas is his weakness with pace and bounce. Good fast bowling always troubles him 

 

Good fast bowling troubles almost everyone but I see lot more pluses with Shreyas Iyer. He was the only middle order batsman in the ODI WC who took on the bowlers and played aggressively. After Rohit, Iyer was the only one who took risks and went after the bowling. Kohli and KL Rahul were steady and never really took too many risks. I've a soft spot for team players and Iyer was one, and in a way he was more Raina than Kohli/KL. Always good to have such players in the team.

[IndianRenegade]

How is KL a captain material in anyones eyes? he has always shat his bed in pressure situations, how does anyone imagine him to lead the team in KO games in ICC tournaments?

[Nikhil_cric]

2 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

 

SA pitches are quite flat and are leaning towards batting pitches these days. IMO Iyer is good enough to succeed. Somehow I like Iyer but as you said we've enough batting talent either way 

 

There's no point backing Iyer if conditions are considered.   SA ODI wickets lack the movement their Test pitches have but there's still bounce on offer.

 

He has failed in ODIs whenever he played in SA and Australia .  And he doesn't bowl or keep wickets like KL.

 

If theres an argument against KL, then I'm not sure how Iyer fits considering the World Cup is in SA.

 

Having said that, a fit and in form Iyer can do real damage in CT because Pakistan has the lowest bouncing pitches in the world. 

[Lord]

9 hours ago, Number said:

Luck definitely an issue with him. I have no doubts had he survived a little more he would have made up for those dot balls in the finals.

 

66 (107) could be 85(120) which would look respectable and make him a MOTM contender had we won.

 

But out of nowhere Starc bowled a fcking huge reverse swinger.. unplayable. How unlucky one has to be to get that kind of a delivery on that surface.

The game was done before he got out. He was in a shell he couldnt get out from. 

[LordPrabhzy]

What are these 3 going to do for 2.5 months till the Bangladesh tests start? They need to play some sort of cricket even a bit in Aug- if they are in the UK for holidays, then why not

[Chaos]

1 minute ago, LordPrabhzy said:

What are these 3 going to do for 2.5 months till the Bangladesh tests start? They need to play some sort of cricket even a bit in Aug- if they are in the UK for holidays, then why not

why is this russel in icf 

[Ultimate_Game]

6 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

There's no point backing Iyer if conditions are considered.   SA ODI wickets lack the movement their Test pitches have but there's still bounce on offer.

 

He has failed in ODIs whenever he played in SA and Australia .  And he doesn't bowl or keep wickets like KL.

 

If theres an argument against KL, then I'm not sure how Iyer fits considering the World Cup is in SA.

 

Having said that, a fit and in form Iyer can do real damage in CT because Pakistan has the lowest bouncing pitches in the world. 

 

Definitely a must for Pak pitches and in subcontinent in general. One of the few middle order bats who bats aggressively instead of stat-padding

[Suhaan]

7 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said:

 

There's no point backing Iyer if conditions are considered.   SA ODI wickets lack the movement their Test pitches have but there's still bounce on offer.

 

He has failed in ODIs whenever he played in SA and Australia .  And he doesn't bowl or keep wickets like KL.

 

If theres an argument against KL, then I'm not sure how Iyer fits considering the World Cup is in SA.

 

Having said that, a fit and in form Iyer can do real damage in CT because Pakistan has the lowest bouncing pitches in the world. 

But do you believe we select squads based on conditions?

Seldomly we have done it in history

Iyer is so bad against short deliveries that even an ICC monitored sporting pitch will cause him trouble

[Frustrated]

Why do some posters want S Iyer back?  The guy is so trash against quality pace in general & slower off cutters (or bouncers in particular) that he is likely to struggle even on flat asian pattas.  WC2023 Final is a testimony to that.  He didn't last 5 balls.  All he needed to do was anchor the inning for next 10-15 overs. (Ind were 65/2 in 9 overs when this Fraud arrived at the crease)

Edited July 10, 2024 by Frustrated