Indian Batsmen in Tests since 1st November 2019, scoring more than 500 runs:

[Prabhdeep Singh]

Only Jaiswal & Pant average over 40, a sad indictment on the legacy of Indian Batsmen.

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runshttp://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/blackArrowDown.gif	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RG Sharma	2019-2024	32	56	3	2119	161	39.98	3810	55.61	6	8	1	251	37	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
V Kohli	2019-2024	34	58	2	1951	186	34.83	3889	50.16	3	9	6	222	6	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
RR Pant	2020-2024	25	44	4	1797	146	44.92	2369	75.85	4	10	1	201	46	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
Shubman Gill	2020-2024	27	50	5	1656	128	36.80	2743	60.37	5	6	5	185	29	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
CA Pujara	2019-2023	30	54	3	1564	102*	30.66	4101	38.13	1	13	5	198	2	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
RA Jadeja	2019-2024	29	42	5	1363	175*	36.83	2813	48.45	3	8	4	140	19	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
YBK Jaiswal	2023-2024	12	22	1	1265	214*	60.23	1813	69.77	3	7	1	146	32	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
AM Rahane	2019-2023	24	41	1	1102	112	27.55	2380	46.30	1	6	4	131	6	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
R Ashwin	2019-2024	35	50	2	1062	113	22.12	1965	54.04	2	3	6	126	9	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
KL Rahul	2021-2024	17	31	1	975	129	32.50	2064	47.23	3	4	2	122	12	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
MA Agarwal	2019-2022	14	25	0	873	243	34.92	1593	54.80	2	3	1	117	15	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
SS Iyer	2021-2024	14	24	2	811	105	36.86	1287	63.01	1	5	2	94	16	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif
AR Patel	2021-2024	14	22	4	646	84	35.88	1235	52.30	0	4	1	70	18	http://i.imgci.com/espncricinfo/guruInvestigate.gif

[putrevus]

Take out England series and then put the averages of Indian batsmen and  Other teams averages.

 

England series  were played on  flat pitches where guys like Pujara would have scored 500 plus easily even on his last legs.

 

Guy like Steve Smith has averaged 37 against India  from 2020

 

When you play on Bunsen burners like the series against England in 2021 where Joe Root is capable of picking 5 wickets for nothing or on seaming pitches of SA where 200 is great score.What do you expect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2024 by putrevus

[Majestic]

1. Pant

2. Rohit

3. Jadeja

4. Rahul

5. Kohli

Then rest. Jaiswal not considered since he hasn’t completed one full cycle. Kohli’s stats are boosted by 176 he got vs Aus at home on a 600+ pitch.

[Lord]

12 hours ago, Majestic said:

1. Pant

2. Rohit

3. Jadeja

4. Rahul

5. Kohli

Then rest. Jaiswal not considered since he hasn’t completed one full cycle. Kohli’s stats are boosted by 176 he got vs Aus at home on a 600+ pitch.

 

Gill has done well too

[sensible-indian]

17 hours ago, putrevus said:

Take out England series and then put the averages of Indian batsmen and  Other teams averages.

 

England series  were played on  flat pitches where guys like Pujara would have scored 500 plus easily even on his last legs.

 

Guy like Steve Smith has averaged 37 against India  from 2020

 

When you play on Bunsen burners like the series against England in 2021 where Joe Root is capable of picking 5 wickets for nothing or on seaming pitches of SA where 200 is great score.What do you expect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even taking that into account, you can see these batsmen have been garbage.

 

A simple exercise to find out:

 

Remove the contribution of Axar, Jaddu and Ash with the bat. Add tailender runs to their name.

What would be the result?

 

- Home series loss to Aus in 2023

 

- Drawn Bangladesh series 2023

 

- Messy home series vs Eng 2024 (Jurel and *Kuldeep* won us a practically lost game)

 

- Even Aus 2020 series win was possible due to lower order resistance. Or else it would have been a thrashing.

 

- Eng 2021 home series would have been messy too

 

- Got thrashed in SA 2022 (tho our pacers also had a major role to play in that mess)

 

- In 2023/24 SA series, we escaped with a 1-1 draw cos SA collapsed in the first innings just like India did. Or else it was an easy whitewash.

 

Since 2019, These batsmen have been useless.

 

- Kohli had a dream run in SA 2018, Eng 2018.

 

- Pujara was in God mode in Aus 2018 and in Gritty mode in Aus 2020.

 

- Pant was in God mode in Aus 2020 in the last 2 tests. Gill great support.

 

Apart from Pant & Jaiswal (recent times) - our batsmen have been an utter and complete embarassment.

Edited October 21, 2024 by sensible-indian

[rkt.india]

19 hours ago, putrevus said:

Take out England series and then put the averages of Indian batsmen and  Other teams averages.

 

England series  were played on  flat pitches where guys like Pujara would have scored 500 plus easily even on his last legs.

 

Guy like Steve Smith has averaged 37 against India  from 2020

 

When you play on Bunsen burners like the series against England in 2021 where Joe Root is capable of picking 5 wickets for nothing or on seaming pitches of SA where 200 is great score.What do you expect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can take out drawn test against Australia as well. Flattest pitch in the last 5 years.

Edited October 21, 2024 by rkt.india

[Ultimate_Game]

We all know (bar one poster) that it's batsmen who've been the problem for a long time. It's the lower order and bowlers who've been cleaning up the batsmen's mess for ages. Be it shorter formats or Tests, one thing is common - batsmen are bound to fail and never show up when it matters, and bowlers get the blame despite carrying this seniority quota ridden team forever.

[putrevus]

On 10/21/2024 at 3:44 AM, sensible-indian said:

Even taking that into account, you can see these batsmen have been garbage.

 

A simple exercise to find out:

 

Remove the contribution of Axar, Jaddu and Ash with the bat. Add tailender runs to their name.

What would be the result?

 

- Home series loss to Aus in 2023

 

- Drawn Bangladesh series 2023

 

- Messy home series vs Eng 2024 (Jurel and *Kuldeep* won us a practically lost game)

 

- Even Aus 2020 series win was possible due to lower order resistance. Or else it would have been a thrashing.

 

- Eng 2021 home series would have been messy too

 

- Got thrashed in SA 2022 (tho our pacers also had a major role to play in that mess)

 

- In 2023/24 SA series, we escaped with a 1-1 draw cos SA collapsed in the first innings just like India did. Or else it was an easy whitewash.

 

Since 2019, These batsmen have been useless.

 

- Kohli had a dream run in SA 2018, Eng 2018.

 

- Pujara was in God mode in Aus 2018 and in Gritty mode in Aus 2020.

 

- Pant was in God mode in Aus 2020 in the last 2 tests. Gill great support.

 

Apart from Pant & Jaiswal (recent times) - our batsmen have been an utter and complete embarassment.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;spanmax1=1+jan+2024;spanmax2=24+Jan+2024;spanmin1=1+nov+2019;spanmin2=1+nov+2019;spanval1=span;spanval2=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

 

This before the start of England series. Other than Pant none of them stand out. But when you compare with players batsmen who have played  against India none of them other than Root who has owned Indian bowlers even  in juicy swinging and seaming conditions where our genius bowlers could not defend 376  stand out.

 

 

The batsmen who stunk like Pujara and Rahane are out of the team and but like you said did play vital roles in winning two Australian series but are out of the team now.

 

 Both Pujara and Rahane did provide a good enough total for bowlers to defend in SA which bowlers flopped big time.

 

Guy like Dean Elgar avg over 54 in those conditions is testment of bowlers failing to do their job rather than batsmen flopping.Tembe Bavuma and Petersen also were having great time facing Indian fast bowlers in SA.if given a choice those SA guys will still select Broken down Kohli and Pujara over them.

 

 

ICC test finals where Indian bowlers could not do anything after winning the toss and bowling.

 

Indians have played in very very bowler friendly conditions. Kohli was going thru a rut which we have not seen any ATG batsman has gone thru.

 

I am still not convinced on Kohli but I would take him to Australia.

 

I have  high confidence in spinners in matches played in India and low confidence in fast bowlers when they have to take majority of 20 wickets.Bumrah will suffer as he will be lone ranger .I hope they get some help for him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2024 by putrevus

[vvvslaxman]

7 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said:

We all know (bar one poster) that it's batsmen who've been the problem for a long time. It's the lower order and bowlers who've been cleaning up the batsmen's mess for ages. Be it shorter formats or Tests, one thing is common - batsmen are bound to fail and never show up when it matters, and bowlers get the blame despite carrying this seniority quota ridden team forever.

Anytime our lower order doesn't show up we get exposed. 

[vvvslaxman]

Just filter out the drawn matches. Focus on won test matches for the same period. Jaiswal has scored more runs in 8 winning Tests than Kohli in 19 winning tests 31 innings. 

 

 

 

[Vk1]

6 hours ago, putrevus said:

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;spanmax1=1+jan+2024;spanmax2=24+Jan+2024;spanmin1=1+nov+2019;spanmin2=1+nov+2019;spanval1=span;spanval2=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

 

This before the start of England series. Other than Pant none of them stand out. But when you compare with players batsmen who have played  against India none of them other than Root who has owned Indian bowlers even  in juicy swinging and seaming conditions where our genius bowlers could not defend 376  stand out.

 

 

The batsmen who stunk like Pujara and Rahane are out of the team and but like you said did play vital roles in winning two Australian series but are out of the team now.

 

 Both Pujara and Rahane did provide a good enough total for bowlers to defend in SA which bowlers flopped big time.

 

Guy like Dean Elgar avg over 54 in those conditions is testment of bowlers failing to do their job rather than batsmen flopping.Tembe Bavuma and Petersen also were having great time facing Indian fast bowlers in SA.if given a choice those SA guys will still select Broken down Kohli and Pujara over them.

 

 

ICC test finals where Indian bowlers could not do anything after winning the toss and bowling.

 

Indian have played in very very bowler friendly conditions. Kohli was going thru a rut which we have not seen any ATG batsman has gone thru.

 

I am still not convinced on Kohli but I would take him to Australia.

 

I have  high confidence in spinners in matches played in India and low confidence in fast bowlers when they have to take majority of 20 wickets.Bumrah will suffer as he will be lone ranger .I hope they get some help for him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our top/middle order batsmen failing in SENA is one thing.

Constantly batting under par and overtly relying on Pant/Jadeja/Ashwin only means that this lineup is making those pitches look even worse.  

[singhvivek141]

7 hours ago, putrevus said:

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;spanmax1=1+jan+2024;spanmax2=24+Jan+2024;spanmin1=1+nov+2019;spanmin2=1+nov+2019;spanval1=span;spanval2=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

 

 

 

This before the start of England series. Other than Pant none of them stand out. But when you compare with players batsmen who have played  against India none of them other than Root who has owned Indian bowlers even  in juicy swinging and seaming conditions where our genius bowlers could not defend 376  stand out.

 

 

The batsmen who stunk like Pujara and Rahane are out of the team and but like you said did play vital roles in winning two Australian series but are out of the team now.

 

 Both Pujara and Rahane did provide a good enough total for bowlers to defend in SA which bowlers flopped big time.

 

Guy like Dean Elgar avg over 54 in those conditions is testment of bowlers failing to do their job rather than batsmen flopping.Tembe Bavuma and Petersen also were having great time facing Indian fast bowlers in SA.if given a choice those SA guys will still select Broken down Kohli and Pujara over them.

 

 

ICC test finals where Indian bowlers could not do anything after winning the toss and bowling.

 

Indian have played in very very bowler friendly conditions. Kohli was going thru a rut which we have not seen any ATG batsman has gone thru.

 

I am still not convinced on Kohli but I would take him to Australia.

 

I have  high confidence in spinners in matches played in India and low confidence in fast bowlers when they have to take majority of 20 wickets.Bumrah will suffer as he will be lone ranger .I hope they get some help for him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Filter till yesterday's date bro...Jaiswal, Sarfaraz, Jurel are missing in this list.

 

[putrevus]

7 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

Filter till yesterday's date bro...Jaiswal, Sarfaraz, Jurel are missing in this list.

 

I did it till England series which Kohli did not play. 

[putrevus]

9 hours ago, Vk1 said:

 

Our top/middle order batsmen failing in SENA is one thing.

Constantly batting under par and overtly relying on Pant/Jadeja/Ashwin only means that this lineup is making those pitches look even worse.  

Why Pant/Jadeja/Ashwin are batting for other team. Sam Curran for difference between India winning the England series and losing in 2018.

 

Plus under performers have been let go, they needed to be given those chances . Only guy in contention is KL Rahul, I have no idea why he is in the team.

 

Who else will you change???

[StraightDrive26]

Indian batting in Tests has definitely declined. We had players like Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid, Laxman in the playing XI now we cannot string 4-5 players in the XI who can score consistent runs. Jaiswal has been good but he is struggling for form as well, Pant is the only batter with consistency now. Even at home we have been struggling. India need to form a good core for at least home games for the next decade to keep the home record intact (unless we lose to NZ this series). Currently looking at our batting line up I have no confidence that we will score runs. Yesterday we saw how scared our batters were as they stuttered to 16/1 in 11 overs. On a wicket which had nothing for pacers our captain gets bowled while our pacers weren't able to even get one wicket. Some worrying signs for India not only for the Australian tour but beyond that as well. In T20 and ODIs I think we are fine as we see how well our A team in performing in the emerging players Asia cup.