Nikhil_cric Posted December 21, 2025 Posted December 21, 2025 (edited) Since the previous World T20, we have lost 5 T20Is to Zimbabwe, South Africa, England and Australia and came close to losing to Lanka in Dubai in a 6th match 5 out of these 6 matches were when we didn't play 6 batsmen(including Dube) + 2 allrounders(Ha Pa +Axar mostly) and instead played 5 + 3 +3 or 6+1 +4 i.e when we compromised our batting depth for an extra allrounder(Washi)or for an extra bowler(Harshit/Bishnoi) One of the matches we lost was when we played an extra seamer instead of a spinner - against SA in the recent series. Where we have actually been clinical and unbeaten is when we have played 6 batters(including Dube as 3rd seamer) + 2 allrounders(Ha Pa + Axar) + 2 spinners(Kuldeep + Chakri) + lone pacer(either Bumrah or Arshdeep especially in Asian conditions ) Considering that WC is in India/SL, this is the combination we should stick to - 6+2+2+1 Edited December 21, 2025 by Nikhil_cric Lone Wolf, rollingstoned, Lord and 2 others 2 3
Lord Posted December 21, 2025 Posted December 21, 2025 3 hours ago, Nikhil_cric said: Since the previous World T20, we have lost 5 T20Is to Zimbabwe, South Africa, England and Australia and came close to losing to Lanka in Dubai in a 6th match 5 out of these 6 matches were when we didn't play 6 batsmen(including Dube) + 2 allrounders(Ha Pa +Axar mostly) and instead played 5 + 3 +3 or 6+1 +4 i.e when we compromised our batting depth for an extra allrounder(Washi)or for an extra bowler(Harshit/Bishnoi) One of the matches we lost was when we played an extra seamer instead of a spinner - against SA in the recent series. Where we have actually been clinical and unbeaten is when we have played 6 batters(including Dube as 3rd seamer) + 2 allrounders(Ha Pa + Axar) + 2 spinners(Kuldeep + Chakri) + lone pacer(either Bumrah or Arshdeep especially in Asian conditions ) Considering that WC is in India/SL, this is the combination we should stick to - 6+2+2+1 It is essentially Kuldeep v Arshdeep. Can chose between them based on conditions If Pandya can bowl at the death Kuldeep should play most games Ultimate_Game and Nikhil_cric 1 1
vvvslaxman Posted December 21, 2025 Posted December 21, 2025 1 hour ago, Lord said: It is essentially Kuldeep v Arshdeep. Can chose between them based on conditions If Pandya can bowl at the death Kuldeep should play most games Pandya in death is a massive risk. On his off days he can be extremely costly. You need two bowlers. One over can change the complexion of the game completely. We still have to see which opposition we play against. Lord 1
vvvslaxman Posted December 21, 2025 Posted December 21, 2025 On 12/12/2025 at 1:28 AM, tapandrun said: KL is better batter than any wk available to Ind, but he has v.bad tendency to freeze at big moments he still has T20i sr of 140, has played better opp. and bowling line-ups and have been playing for sometime so not modern day 140 where every one else is going 160-165 a batter is going 140, but old time (2ys back) 140 where may be 1-2 batter were going 145-150, the issue with him is as tm you are not sure hen will he freeze and freezing even 5 balls will cost a t20i match , that is what jitesh is, some1 who would not die wondering. he will throw around his bat not freeze, bowlers may have better of him but he will swing his bat, that the upside they are looking in him, intent to try hit every ball hence playing at no.7/8 Do not think jitesh is intnl quality but the tm looks at him as #6/7/8 who will swing his bat as hard as he can and may be connect 2-3 in last 10 balls giving team 10 ball 18-20 Are you missing this? :) tapandrun and Manucrick 2
tapandrun Posted December 22, 2025 Posted December 22, 2025 3 hours ago, vvvslaxman said: Are you missing this? :) Its a surprise that after botching 2 impt. icc games and multiple IPL teams he still finds a spot in Ind side.Its kind of unheard in Ind cricketing system. Though he had all it takes and backing of bcci to make at-least Ind great he botched that too. vvvslaxman 1
cowboysfan Posted December 25, 2025 Posted December 25, 2025 I was thinking why we were so good in T20s and i realized our bowling is actually better than our batting,we rarely lose and when we lose our bowlers have an off day and our batters cant makeup on that day. Ultimate_Game 1
Suhaan Posted December 25, 2025 Posted December 25, 2025 On 12/22/2025 at 2:34 AM, vvvslaxman said: Pandya in death is a massive risk. On his off days he can be extremely costly. You need two bowlers. One over can change the complexion of the game completely. We still have to see which opposition we play against. Particularly against fire batting sides,most of the T20 sides have now assembled high SR batsmen in their lineup,so it's a risk everytime
Ultimate_Game Posted December 26, 2025 Posted December 26, 2025 19 hours ago, cowboysfan said: I was thinking why we were so good in T20s and i realized our bowling is actually better than our batting,we rarely lose and when we lose our bowlers have an off day and our batters cant makeup on that day. Our bowlers have been doing the heavy lifting for years now. And whenever they needed support from batters - 2019 WC SF or 2023 WC Final, the batters disappointed.
Gollum Posted December 26, 2025 Posted December 26, 2025 (edited) We so back baby. Before Gill, 200+ was the norm for us. Then he displaced Samson and even 170 became a challenge. Samson returned as opener and we scored 230. Gonna be unstoppable in the WC. Edited December 26, 2025 by Gollum Manucrick, rollingstoned and Need4Speed 3
Need4Speed Posted December 26, 2025 Posted December 26, 2025 (edited) Gill out has given us last minute boost..just need SKY to atleast contribute something..even quick 30 shud be fine..if others are in form.. If he has reflexes issues again pace..he may try to give strike to other batter..and take on spin bolwing heavily..he does play sweep well..Indian subcon..Teams will play spinners in MOs..and he can atleast contribute that way.. Edited December 26, 2025 by Need4Speed BacktoCricaddict 1
tapandrun Posted December 26, 2025 Posted December 26, 2025 15 hours ago, Ultimate_Game said: Our bowlers have been doing the heavy lifting for years now. And whenever they needed support from batters - 2019 WC SF or 2023 WC Final, the batters disappointed. Bowlers had to step-up once Ind went to Gill as an opener, before that Ind was out batting opp. Ultimate_Game 1
Ultimate_Game Posted December 26, 2025 Posted December 26, 2025 1 hour ago, tapandrun said: Bowlers had to step-up once Ind went to Gill as an opener, before that Ind was out batting opp. It's not just Gill. With Gill in the team we had 2 of the top 4 who don't deserve to be in the team with SKY as another passenger at 4. This was putting too much pressure on Abhishek. With Gill gone we only have one passenger and we can manage one though ideally I would prefer Iyer as captain at 4.
deepdynamo Posted January 24 Author Posted January 24 (edited) Simply Unstoppable, Touchwood- If any deserve to lift the title, this is the team. It would be travesty if we get beaten by conditions, dew or collective failure on a bad day. India have a win-loss record of 42-5 in 47 completed T20I since January 2024. WON 42 LOST 5 Edited January 24 by deepdynamo
deepdynamo Posted January 25 Author Posted January 25 Another series pocketed, unreal domintaion Touchwood
Adamant Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Should India drop Samson? I think so. Samson has a horrible record against big teams. Try Kishan at the top and Tilak can bat at 3. Frustrated and Gollum 2
jf1gp_1 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 .. and the chest beating has started. one loss and Gambhir is a parasite will return
Manucrick Posted January 26 Posted January 26 26 minutes ago, Adamant said: Should India drop Samson? I think so. Samson has a horrible record against big teams. Try Kishan at the top and Tilak can bat at 3. Can give him two more chances if he failed like this then Ishan should open in wc
deepdynamo Posted January 26 Author Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, Manucrick said: Can give him two more chances if he failed like this then Ishan should open in wc Abhishek should be rested for last 2 T20s. Samson and Kishan to open followed by Tilak. Then see what happens. Manucrick 1
Gollum Posted January 26 Posted January 26 1 hour ago, Adamant said: Should India drop Samson? I think so. Samson has a horrible record against big teams. Try Kishan at the top and Tilak can bat at 3. I think that is what will happen. Ishan and Abhi to open, Tilak at #3, then SKY. Samson will get a couple of more chances but time is running out for him.
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