ravishingravi Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Is this the same old fear mongering or there is truth to this ? zen and randomGuy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 wtf not again Chaos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 2 hours ago, Lord said: wtf not again What do you mean "again"? COVID was a fake over hyped pandemic, a ruse by the deep state to sell vaccines and depopulate the world using toxic mRNA.. Nothing to see here. Vijy, Lord and jf1gp_1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 24 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: What do you mean "again"? COVID was a fake over hyped pandemic, a ruse by the deep state to sell vaccines and depopulate the world using toxic mRNA.. Nothing to see here. Wow... That's big coming from the prfsr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 5 minutes ago, diga said: Wow... That's big coming from the prfsr Turn on your sarcasm meter guru. I was just parroting the ridiculous conspiracy theories that pervade the Internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 i still remember how it took the world a whole month if not longer to take any notice of china in 2020 like it's some other planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 37 minutes ago, diga said: Wow... That's big coming from the prfsr Arrey, he’s just mocking the anti-vaccers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 33 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Turn on your sarcasm meter guru. I was just parroting the ridiculous conspiracy theories that pervade the Internet. you need to make it more obvious Vijy, randomGuy and BacktoCricaddict 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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diga Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 55 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Turn on your sarcasm meter guru. I was just parroting the ridiculous conspiracy theories that pervade the Internet. Gothu Sir.. kalu elithedde guruve BacktoCricaddict and coffee_rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Serious response: No two respiratory viruses are the same. Heck, no two variants of the same virus (e.g., Original SARS CoV2 vs Omicron) are the same. There are 2 main factors. Infectiousness (ability to spread) and virulence (severity of disease caused). The original SARS CoV2 was moderately-highly infectious and moderately-highly virulent. Delta was moderately-highly infectious but extremely-highly virulent. Omicron and later are highly infections but thankfully have moderate-low virulence. So far, HMPV in China and H5N1 bird flu in the US are being monitored (maybe Mpox too). None of them seem to be anywhere near SARS CoV2 when taking infectiousness and virulence together. Should we be vigilant? Yes. Should we panic? No. Lord, Vijy and G_B_ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 17 minutes ago, BacktoCricaddict said: Serious response: No two respiratory viruses are the same. Heck, no two variants of the same virus (e.g., Original SARS CoV2 vs Omicron) are the same. There are 2 main factors. Infectiousness (ability to spread) and virulence (severity of disease caused). The original SARS CoV2 was moderately-highly infectious and moderately-highly virulent. Delta was moderately-highly infectious but extremely-highly virulent. Omicron and later are highly infections but thankfully have moderate-low virulence. So far, HMPV in China and H5N1 bird flu in the US are being monitored (maybe Mpox too). None of them seem to be anywhere near SARS CoV2 when taking infectiousness and virulence together. Should we be vigilant? Yes. Should we panic? No. Noob question : Doesn't the infectiousness depend on the environment than the virus itself. For example, it should spread much faster in unhygienic and crowded Indian spaces than say countries like Canada/USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Lord said: Noob question : Doesn't the infectiousness depend on the environment than the virus itself. For example, it should spread much faster in unhygienic and crowded Indian spaces than say countries like Canada/USA. Yes, for sure infectiousness is influenced by the environment. But the most important factor is the innate ability of a virus to bind to our cells, replicate, and spread. So, in the same environment, different viruses or variants of the same virus will behave differently. Edited January 3 by BacktoCricaddict Lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gattaca Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 5 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: What do you mean "again"? COVID was a fake over hyped pandemic, a ruse by the deep state to sell vaccines and depopulate the world using toxic mRNA.. Nothing to see here. Finally you are accepting it ? But Sweden didn’t close borders like others did though. Edited January 3 by gattaca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 15 minutes ago, gattaca said: Finally you are accepting it ? You need to turn on your sarcasm meter ;-)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijy Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/3/2025 at 10:50 AM, BacktoCricaddict said: Serious response: No two respiratory viruses are the same. Heck, no two variants of the same virus (e.g., Original SARS CoV2 vs Omicron) are the same. There are 2 main factors. Infectiousness (ability to spread) and virulence (severity of disease caused). The original SARS CoV2 was moderately-highly infectious and moderately-highly virulent. Delta was moderately-highly infectious but extremely-highly virulent. Omicron and later are highly infections but thankfully have moderate-low virulence. So far, HMPV in China and H5N1 bird flu in the US are being monitored (maybe Mpox too). None of them seem to be anywhere near SARS CoV2 when taking infectiousness and virulence together. Should we be vigilant? Yes. Should we panic? No. that seems about right, based on current info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 On 1/3/2025 at 5:53 AM, BacktoCricaddict said: What do you mean "again"? COVID was a fake over hyped pandemic, a ruse by the deep state to sell vaccines and depopulate the world using toxic mRNA.. Nothing to see here. bit of a stretch to call gene modifiers as vaccine and not something that contains attenuated or deactivated viral vector as a vaccine. I for one am not science illiterate or a vaccine denier. Yet, i SPECIFICALLY drove to mexico so i could take a real covid vaccine - covaxin that was being offered in mexico - than use bullshit untested gene therapy crap of pfizer or moderna and i am glad i went for the 'real med that is slightly less effective' than 'bullshit untested gene therapy drug'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BacktoCricaddict Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Muloghonto said: bit of a stretch to call gene modifiers as vaccine and not something that contains attenuated or deactivated viral vector as a vaccine. I for one am not science illiterate or a vaccine denier. Yet, i SPECIFICALLY drove to mexico so i could take a real covid vaccine - covaxin that was being offered in mexico - than use bullshit untested gene therapy crap of pfizer or moderna and i am glad i went for the 'real med that is slightly less effective' than 'bullshit untested gene therapy drug'. mRNA is not a gene modifier, if that's your drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 2 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said: mRNA is not a gene modifier, if that's your drift. it is pretty much close to it is my understanding. whatever it is, it is poorly tested, with poor efficacy as a class of 'vaccines' and i am not sure i like the bastardization of the sample specific term of vaccine being attenuated/deactivated viral vector therapies, as is the trend in modern western psuedo-science meets real science ideologies. Though this is not my field, i am qualified enough in science to know the bottomline for this mRNA crap: a) it has poor track record in actual efficacy as a class vs the abovementioned ones b) it has a very low resolution trial history over time and therefore, is scientifically an untested and relatively untrialled medication and the fact that Pfizer specifically obtained waivers for this, proves it to be so. c) I am not interested in being a mass scale guinea pig for western pharma industry, which is by far the least ethical in history of species homo sapiens. d) i also am well enough versed to know what the docs back home in India think on the issue that are part of my family and some of their highly decorated peers and the conclusion is pretty simple - go with the real vaccines when you got a choice and not take western quackery at face value. I followed it, i followed it well enough to hunt down covaxin in mexico on a road trip from canada during covid times, so i think its pretty safe to say you cannot lump me with 'idiot vaccine denier bad juju of autism, blahblah' antivaxxer crowd. But i am also not interested in the BS that ms mRNA crappola. ravishingravi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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