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Playing on same ground gives India huge advantage’: Cummins criticises ICC’s controversial Champions Trophy decision

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putrevus Grand Master

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India did not qualify for 2006 semis either as a host.They lost to fricking WI and barely beat England who were horrible odi team.Aussies smacked them as usual, winning against Australia in any single match was a event then.That's how terrified Fab four were against them.

 

Indian team in 2006  had  Sachin, Sehwag Yuvi and Dhoni. This Pakistan team has no business to qualify to semis over India and NZ who are far better teams which was not the case in 2006.

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tapandrun Grand Master

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8 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

English media all over it lol

 

This is funny, Ind team has not played many matches at this venue and its just been 2 matches in icc event for Ind , one against bd and other vs pak.

If pitches are nt doc. bd is not winning against Ind. and even if pitches are doc. this pak team is not winning against Ind.

 

For an icc event pitches are almost flat so was there any chance of bd or pak to win this ??? And this is aging Ind side 2/3 player past their prime, couple of player returning from injury.

 

Yes down the line if Ind tm are smart they can use the recent knowledge for their advantage. And those who are saying that Ind knew the condition and can pick a team accordingly, this is v.much same team(playing 11) that played wc 23 , there is not mch change kishan goes out pant comes in, bhumrah is out of injury , siraj goes out and rana comes in. Varun replaced bhumrah bcoz this and previous tm didnt try any high potential pacer  

 

its also intersting these guys were covering that pak vs eng test series, where pak tm used industrial heater, fans and farm style green house after losing 1st game to eng and played multiple games on same pitch but these ppl had no words no objection where they always say test should be 1st priority.

v.sure its about narrative and where its from bcci or icc, saw a yt pod cast where ex-players were calling it aus t20 wc that ind won.

where is ind team perspective, if you have ind commentators who are not regarded as much and have no real say they are just there to be hype-man for 3/4 ind superstars this is going to happen. Plus dravid and rohit doc. wc-2023 pitches does not help the reputation

 

 

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tapandrun Grand Master

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7 hours ago, bsriharsha said:

Also I'd probably say that india insisted on playing it's matches in UAE. They never insisted on playing their matches in Dubai. 

 

Blame the Pakistani administration for not scheduling matches outside of Dubai. Probably didn't want the added cost. 

cost is on icc, so when they decided on the venue the broadcaster wanted only 3 venues by replacing pindi with dbi.

But pcb wanted pindi included. yes icc wants this event to be as cost effective as possible , there is no interset of icc in this event in particular.

 

its the broadcaster who saw a window and thought even if 2-3 matches are sellable they can make some profit for an otherwise overvalued contract they got.

they might need to go into to negotiation after this event. apart from wc 23 all have been loss making at large for icc and broadcaster.

Norman Grand Master

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Oh we definitely have an advantage. But why are they crying about it now ? They should have complained about it months ago when the schedule was finalised. 

 

To be brutally frank...ICC tournaments these days so farcical it's actually funny.

 

  1. Rigged draw with Ind and Pak in same group every *ing time
  2. A tournament every 7-8 months 
  3. Indian matches played at odd hours for TV viewership back home.
  4. Indian matches played on Sundays for same reason with 7 days awkward gap inbetween games.
  5. Venues cherry picked to favour our playing style.
  6. Pictures getting rigged and doctored by our TM shamelessly.
  7. Zero interest among non SC team fans leading to terrible crowd attendances for most games.
  8. Horrible broadcasting standards with the official broadcaster more concerned about what time Kohli took a ßhit than the actual game on the day. 

 

List is endless.

diga Grand Master

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On 2/28/2025 at 9:58 PM, G_B_ said:

If not for dubai this tournament would be a washout.

 

I think india saved this tournament by refusing to tour pak

atleast they are getting some revenue by way of ticket sales in Dubai

lemsip Grand Master

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7 hours ago, diga said:

atleast they are getting some revenue by way of ticket sales in Dubai

Ticket sales is less than insignificant for these tournaments. All the revenue comes from the sale of TV rights to the Indian market. 

That's the main reason behind the farcical organisation of these ICC events and the excuses to create Pakistan-India contests.

diga Grand Master

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1 minute ago, lemsip said:

Ticket sales is less than insignificant for these tournaments. All the revenue comes from the sale of TV rights to the Indian market. 

That's the main reason behind the farcical organisation of these ICC events and the excuses to create Pakistan-India contests.

tv revenue goes to ICC and hosting nation gets a bigger pie I think (still less than India's :D )

lemsip Grand Master

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12 minutes ago, diga said:

tv revenue goes to ICC and hosting nation gets a bigger pie I think (still less than India's :D )

The biggest source of revenue for the PCB is the hosting fees from the ICC which is a guaranteed $6 million. Obviously the ICC funds that from its income derived from the sale of TV rights for different ICC tournaments including CT25. 

To host the tournament the PCB have invested $40m in their infrastructure which will obviously not be recouped with just this tournament and may not ever be considering the fiasco with washouts and the home team's exit.

nevada Grand Master

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I want India to win the tournament just to see the whiners cry themselves hoarse! Other teams can never get the VIP treatment given to India because they can barely bring in a fraction of the revenue India brings. 

lemsip Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, nevada said:

I want India to win the tournament just to see the whiners cry themselves hoarse! Other teams can never get the VIP treatment given to India because they can barely bring in a fraction of the revenue India brings. 

That's the reason why I for one find it hard to sustain interest in these tournaments. Their organisation has become increasingly India centric and selling a product to a indian TV market is the most important consideration and obviously that market demands that India play at friendly hours and that they keep playing pakistan and that they win. Much prefer to watch head to head away series vs Australia and England to get a true measure of the team's standing.

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Vk1 Grand Master

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On 2/26/2025 at 3:05 AM, putrevus said:

India did not qualify for 2006 semis either as a host.They lost to fricking WI and barely beat England who were horrible odi team.Aussies smacked them as usual, winning against Australia in any single match was a event then.That's how terrified Fab four were against them.

 

Indian team in 2006  had  Sachin, Sehwag Yuvi and Dhoni. This Pakistan team has no business to qualify to semis over India and NZ who are far better teams which was not the case in 2006.

We never had very good bowlers or genuine allrounders in those days. Matches were mostly won by out batting opposition.  

Vk1 Grand Master

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International players too have been playing in India for the past 17 years in IPL.. getting used to all sorts of conditions and grounds. Never seen anyone say India has unfair disadvantage in this regard.

putrevus Grand Master

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30 minutes ago, Vk1 said:

We never had very good bowlers or genuine allrounders in those days. Matches were mostly won by out batting opposition.  

Don't think so.

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