Jump to content

Ranji Trophy 2025-26- J&K Ranji Champions

coffee_rules

By coffee_rules
in Cricket Talk

Recommended Posts

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 1/25/2026 at 7:00 PM, putrevus said:

Shami has been hard done just like Sarfraz, is Gambhir playing religious card along with Agarkar. Are they being discriminated due to their religion.

 

Both of them should be playing test cricket and Shami should be playing odis too.

 

Useless guys like Nair, Sai, Paddikal, Jurel have been chosen over Sarfraz.Poor guy has been scoring runs everytime he hold bat.What more can anyone do, I can understand if better players were being selected.

Need to move on from Shami. Aise to bring back ishant and umesh too. And Bhuvi Kumar too. It's right time to build a new bowling attack.

Edited by rkt.india
express bowling Grand Master

express bowling

Posted
Posted
18 hours ago, rkt.india said:

Need to move on from Shami. Aise to bring back ishant and umesh too. And Bhuvi Kumar too. It's right time to build a new bowling attack.

 

Need to bring in Gurnoor Brar in test matches. Maybe ODIs too.

 

But playing Siraj and Akashdeep is not really building a new bowling attack. Siraj's real age is probably in the mid 30s and Akashdeep's real age is in early 30s too, maybe more. And both have lost pace.

 

Prasidh is not the future either as he is too inaccurate and Harshit lacks fitness in T20Is even. 

 

Shami should replace Akashdeep.

 

In tests, rotate Bumrah, Gurnoor, Shami, Siraj, Prasidh. And keep an eye on Apple Tom and Ashok Sharma. 

rkt.india Grand Master

rkt.india

Posted
Posted
43 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Need to bring in Gurnoor Brar in test matches. Maybe ODIs too.

 

But playing Siraj and Akashdeep is not really building a new bowling attack. Siraj's real age is probably in the mid 30s and Akashdeep's real age is in early 30s too, maybe more. And both have lost pace.

 

Prasidh is not the future either as he is too inaccurate and Harshit lacks fitness in T20Is even. 

 

Shami should replace Akashdeep.

 

In tests, rotate Bumrah, Gurnoor, Shami, Siraj, Prasidh. And keep an eye on Apple Tom and Ashok Sharma. 

Agree. 

putrevus Grand Master

putrevus

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 1/30/2026 at 5:10 AM, rkt.india said:

Need to move on from Shami. Aise to bring back ishant and umesh too. And Bhuvi Kumar too. It's right time to build a new bowling attack.

As I said many times, No Shami is still better than every other bowler in India other than Bumrah.There were people who wanted to move on from both Umesh and Shami as early as 2014/15.How did it pan out.

 

You don't build new attack at the expense of current attack that is just plain stupidity.

 

Shami should have been played in Australia and England. These two idiots have screwed them just like they have screwed with Sarfraz.

 

Guys like Sai ,Jurel don't belong in international as a batsmen. Sarfraz is  better than all of them.He is also being victimized by these two morons.

 

With Gambhir it might be purely based on their religion. I cannot put anything beyond this petty guy.

Edited by putrevus
Suhaan Grand Master

Suhaan

Posted
Posted
3 hours ago, putrevus said:

As I said many times, No Shami is still better than every other bowler in India other than Bumrah.There were people who wanted to move on from both Umesh and Shami as early as 2014/15.How did it pan out.

 

You don't build new attack at the expense of current attack that is just plain stupidity.

 

Shami should have been played in Australia and England. These two idiots have screwed them just like they have screwed with Sarfraz.

 

Guys like Sai ,Jurel don't belong in international as a batsmen. Sarfraz is  better than all of them.He is also being victimized by these two morons.

 

With Gambhir it might be purely based on their religion. I cannot put anything beyond this petty guy.

Shami has an AVG of 40+ in England ,32.16 in Aus

He was phenomenal in SA,SL,WI

 

There is no reason to persist with him,it's your take who is bringing in religion here

Sarfaraz will soon be getting chances,let's see how he fares,you will be getting your answers as usually 

singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

Posted
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, putrevus said:

You don't build new attack at the expense of current attack that is just plain stupidity.


Shami is already 37-38, he had an amazing career and it's a travesty that Kohli-Shastri didn't give him enough opportunities in ODIs (his best format) during his prime years.
But we can't compensate for that now. 
Time is to bring in new young pacers (ideally under 25). Gurnoor is 25, Harshit is 24, Eden Apple is 20...there maybe few more under 25 sub bowlers as well but we need to see.
Prasidh, Akashdeep are just short term fixes...both are close to 30 now...their limit is perhaps 20-30 Tests at max.
 

Edited by singhvivek141
putrevus Grand Master

putrevus

Posted
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:


Shami is already 37-38, he had an amazing career and it's a travesty that Kohli-Shastri didn't give him enough opportunities in ODIs (his best format) during his prime years.
But we can't compensate for that now. 
Time is to bring in new young pacers (ideally under 25). Gurnoor is 25, Harshit is 24, Eden Apple is 20...there maybe few more under 25 sub bowlers as well but we need to see.
Prasidh, Akashdeep are just short term fixes...both are close to 30 now...their limit is perhaps 20-30 Tests at max.
 

I will take Shami over Harshit anyday even now. Harshit is not test caliber bowler.I don't think he will ever amount to anything great.If holding bat is his biggest attribute then he will be useless bowler.I will be happy to proven wrong.He has been force fed in Indian team in all formats.

 

Shami was not going to play in 2023 world cup either if Pandya was not injured, by Dravid too.So it is not Shastri-Kohli alone.Shami has been a victim of unbalanced lineup.

 

Shami can be stop gap bowler till others emerge over guys like Akashdeep and Prasidh.He should  have played both in Australia and England.Who knows how those series would have turned if Shami was still playing.

 

These two morons Agarkar and Gambhir were wanting proof for his fitness, he has proved his fitness again and again.He still is being left out just like Sarfraz is being left out without any reason.These two bozos wanted to kick Kohli and Rohit out in odis too but they proved why they belong in the team.Kohli proved he still is first name on the team in odis.

 

I have not seen Gurnoor but if Gurnoor is unable to crack Indian team even in one format till now at age of 25 I doubt he will amount to anything.Again happy to be proven wrong.He has not even played IPL regularly in one season.How can you expect him to replace Shami.

 

I said back this in 2019 about Prasidh.It is big red flag that he is unable to even crack Karnataka Ranji trophy team over guy like Vinay Kumar then what will he do for Indian team.

 

If guy like Arshdeep is able to play for India team, why is Gurnoor is not able to do so even in one format.

 

Fast bowling is still the fastest way to get into Indian team.

 

 

 

 

Edited by putrevus
singhvivek141 Grand Master

singhvivek141

Posted
Posted
10 hours ago, putrevus said:

I will take Shami over Harshit anyday even now. Harshit is not test caliber bowler.I don't think he will ever amount to anything great.If holding bat is his biggest attribute then he will be useless bowler.I will be happy to proven wrong.He has been force fed in Indian team in all formats.

 

Shami was not going to play in 2023 world cup either if Pandya was not injured, by Dravid too.So it is not Shastri-Kohli alone.Shami has been a victim of unbalanced lineup.

 

Shami can be stop gap bowler till others emerge over guys like Akashdeep and Prasidh.He should  have played both in Australia and England.Who knows how those series would have turned if Shami was still playing.

 

These two morons Agarkar and Gambhir were wanting proof for his fitness, he has proved his fitness again and again.He still is being left out just like Sarfraz is being left out without any reason.These two bozos wanted to kick Kohli and Rohit out in odis too but they proved why they belong in the team.Kohli proved he still is first name on the team in odis.

 

I have not seen Gurnoor but if Gurnoor is unable to crack Indian team even in one format till now at age of 25 I doubt he will amount to anything.Again happy to be proven wrong.He has not even played IPL regularly in one season.How can you expect him to replace Shami.

 

I said back this in 2019 about Prasidh.It is big red flag that he is unable to even crack Karnataka Ranji trophy team over guy like Vinay Kumar then what will he do for Indian team.

 

If guy like Arshdeep is able to play for India team, why is Gurnoor is not able to do so even in one format.

 

Fast bowling is still the fastest way to get into Indian team.

 

If one thing I've understood so far, is that IPL isnt the right parameter to select pacers for Tests. Siraj when he debuted for India...was choosen for ODIs and T20s, but he found his ceiling in Tests. Even now, he gets smacked around in IPL.

 

Gurnoor is a regular part of Punjab Ranji Team...he was playing U23 for them couple of years back and from last 2 years he has also played for India A. 

 

Arshdeep got the leap due to IPL, that has  helped Harshit, Umran & Mayank as well. The bowlers who do well in IPL are bound to get nod ahead of the others who toil hard in domestics. Hence these gimmicky bowlers who can bowl cutters, slower ones etc get an opportunity ahead of the rest. Shami too has been an ordinary IPL bowler for most of his career.

 

Ranji teams prefer swing bowlers, who can pitch the bowl up and let it swing. Hence Vinay Kumar & Bhuvi Kumar ruled there...but the minute they play in internationals Tests, teams like Australia bashed them to the pulp. Prasidh in his short and inconsistent career has actually bowled well in England & Australia, so has Akashdeep in India & England. 

 

 

putrevus Grand Master

putrevus

Posted
Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, singhvivek141 said:

 

If one thing I've understood so far, is that IPL isnt the right parameter to select pacers for Tests. Siraj when he debuted for India...was choosen for ODIs and T20s, but he found his ceiling in Tests. Even now, he gets smacked around in IPL.

 

Gurnoor is a regular part of Punjab Ranji Team...he was playing U23 for them couple of years back and from last 2 years he has also played for India A. 

 

Arshdeep got the leap due to IPL, that has  helped Harshit, Umran & Mayank as well. The bowlers who do well in IPL are bound to get nod ahead of the others who toil hard in domestics. Hence these gimmicky bowlers who can bowl cutters, slower ones etc get an opportunity ahead of the rest. Shami too has been an ordinary IPL bowler for most of his career.

 

Ranji teams prefer swing bowlers, who can pitch the bowl up and let it swing. Hence Vinay Kumar & Bhuvi Kumar ruled there...but the minute they play in internationals Tests, teams like Australia bashed them to the pulp. Prasidh in his short and inconsistent career has actually bowled well in England & Australia, so has Akashdeep in India & England. 

 

 

If I am correct is this the same guy we have are talking about. Gurnoor Brar is nearly 26 , he has played 18 FC matches and has one 5fer and his white ball stats are average .He only has played less than 10 in both whiteball formats.

 

https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/gurnoor-brar-1287033

 

How do you expect him to graduate to test cricket based on these stats.Can anyone will select this guy straight to test cricket.He still has has played India A .

 

Eden Apple looks like he is 20 but is being listed as medium fast.

 

Any team will want wicket takers.It does not matter swing or seam but I agree some bowlers have to be selected based on talent alone just like batsmen.But they still need one full domestic season.Endurance is also key for both 50 overs and test cricket.

 

IMO one bowler who should have been playing was Karthik Tyagi, I still have hope for Mayank .But finding good to great bowlers is very very hard in India. That is why we need to maximize the great one in Shami as much as possible IMO.

Edited by putrevus
BacktoCricaddict Grand Master

BacktoCricaddict

Posted
Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, coffee_rules said:

First time in my life, I’m not following Ranjit trophy season. Aagta  illa 

TBH  it's too complicated. Too many teams. Too many matches. Break for SMAT. Break for VHT. Yaarathra time aithe to keep up? Now that KOs are here, we can start paying attention :-)

Edited by BacktoCricaddict
BacktoCricaddict Grand Master

BacktoCricaddict

Posted
Posted
4 hours ago, diga said:

@coffee_rules @BacktoCricaddict changing captaincy midway in Ranji trophy seems to have helped... Win against Mumbai and we can dream of "ee sala cup......."

Seems like a group of solid young bats - Smaran is one. Can't recall the other name.

 

I had high hopes for Kaverappa - thought he was quick enough to make an impact (unlike vyshak)  a few yrs ago but he faded away. 

diga Grand Master

diga

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, BacktoCricaddict said:

Seems like a group of solid young bats - Smaran is one. Can't recall the other name.

 

I had high hopes for Kaverappa - thought he was quick enough to make an impact (unlike vyshak)  a few yrs ago but he faded away. 

Kaverappa doesn't have the raw pace and batsmen have figured his variations. 

 

Divij Mehra from Delhi seems worth tracking @express bowling

diga Grand Master

diga

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, singhvivek141 said:

Divij Mehra is trundluddin.

The highlights of Mumbai vs Delhi in BCCI site don't indicate that... he got good bounce

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...