Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[MCcricket]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

My impressions of the new Indian fast-bowlers  in this IPL  --

 

Md.Siraj  -  He has been impressive. He has bowled with genuine pace with a very high percentage of deliveries at 135 k to 145 k. Plus he is a skiddy pacer who hurries on to the bat after pitching.  Gets inswing on a consistent basis and the in-dipping skiddy quick balls result in a lot of bowled outs and LBWs.  Has a good pacy bouncer and has developed decent yorkers and slower balls in this IPL.  Hits the deck hard when needed and his height is ok.   

 

The best thing is that he was learning as the tournament progressed. He took 41 wickets from only 9 FC matches this season and is the one bowler to look out for as he knows how to pick up wickets. Needs to be picked for our A team and can play all formats.

 

 

Avesh Khan -- He is tall and bouncy. Hits the deck hard and bowls a heavy ball.  Gets the ball to seam in and is accurate.... makes the batsmen play.  He is one of those quicks who hurry batsmen visually.  Can bowl lots of  140 k + deliveries in an over.  Reminds me a lot of Srinath.  He was really unlucky to miss 13 matches this season and should have been played by RCB.

 

He is a wicket taker too and was our best pacer in the last U19 WC. took loads of wickets. Don't know how he is not picked for the MP Ranji team.  The selectors must see to it that he plays Ranji next season and he is good enough for our A team too. He is one of the most exciting pace prospects from India and only 20, so he should add pace as he becomes older.

 

 

Nathu Singh -- He got injured and played only 2 games. But he is a big talent. Looked really good in those 2 games. Bowled 138 k to 145 k, swung the ball both ways, was very accurate and bowled a few good bouncers. His ER was only 3.75 in a T20 tournament. Would have shone even more if he had played 6 or 7 games. Another A team candidate.

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya -- The man was conspicuous by his absence. Did not get to play a single game despite taking 13 wickets from only 5 VH Trophy matches.  He is genuinely quick and bouncy and a left-armer too.  Saw him in a DY Patil match he was bowling some superb and fierce bouncers and yorkers.

 

 

Basil Thampi -- He has impressed most commentators and his team management due to his ability to bowl quick,  inswinging late-dipping yorkers at will.   That is a rare skill and he needs to be backed. he bowled 134 k to 144 k , was skiddy and got regular inswing. He has a somewhat round-arm action and a lowish release point and that often robs him of bounce when bowling good length. He has a good, quick bouncer. Needs to improve his accuracy regarding all deliveries. He bowled all the difficult overs even in his first IPL and that speaks volumes about the confidence that his team management has in him.

 

 

Ankit Rajpoot --  He did not get to play that many games too but did well whenever he was chosen. He is a tall pacer and can hit the deck hard. Gets good bounce.  Bowled 132 k to 142 k in this IPL but bowled upto 147 k last time. He gets seam movement with regularity and comes across as a skilled pacer for the shorter formats. Seen him swing the ball in FC too. Has a decent slower ball.

 

 

Shardul Thakur -- He was good one day and bad the next day. This inconsistency is due to the fact that he tries too many things and often ends up bowling a bad line, either down the leg or too wide.  He has a lot of skills, swing, reverse swing, seam movement, good bouncer, decent slower balls and decent yorkers....but needs to use them judiciously.  His speeds were 133 k to 145 k.

 

 

Aniket Chaudhary --  He was not supposed to be a T20 bowler and did not do that well barring a couple of matches. Needs to improve his yorkers.

 

But, he is a test prospect for sure as he is very tall, hits the deck hard, has a great bouncer and can swing the ball too. Bowls decent speeds too, 130 k to 143 k

Agree, also feel Sangwan has potential, he is strong athletic, can bat, also has good pace n bowls heavy ball, he should be in the setup for odi

Edited May 17, 2017 by MCcricket

[tweaker]

16 hours ago, express bowling said:

My impressions of the new Indian fast-bowlers  in this IPL  --

 

Md.Siraj  -  He has been impressive. He has bowled with genuine pace with a very high percentage of deliveries at 135 k to 145 k. Plus he is a skiddy pacer who hurries on to the bat after pitching.  Gets inswing on a consistent basis and the in-dipping skiddy quick balls result in a lot of bowled outs and LBWs.  Has a good pacy bouncer and has developed decent yorkers and slower balls in this IPL.  Hits the deck hard when needed and his height is ok.   

 

The best thing is that he was learning as the tournament progressed. He took 41 wickets from only 9 FC matches this season and is the one bowler to look out for as he knows how to pick up wickets. Needs to be picked for our A team and can play all formats.

 

 

Avesh Khan -- He is tall and bouncy. Hits the deck hard and bowls a heavy ball.  Gets the ball to seam in and is accurate.... makes the batsmen play.  He is one of those quicks who hurry batsmen visually.  Can bowl lots of  140 k + deliveries in an over.  Reminds me a lot of Srinath.  He was really unlucky to miss 13 matches this season and should have been played by RCB.

 

He is a wicket taker too and was our best pacer in the last U19 WC. took loads of wickets. Don't know how he is not picked for the MP Ranji team.  The selectors must see to it that he plays Ranji next season and he is good enough for our A team too. He is one of the most exciting pace prospects from India and only 20, so he should add pace as he becomes older.

 

 

Nathu Singh -- He got injured and played only 2 games. But he is a big talent. Looked really good in those 2 games. Bowled 138 k to 145 k, swung the ball both ways, was very accurate and bowled a few good bouncers. His ER was only 3.75 in a T20 tournament. Would have shone even more if he had played 6 or 7 games. Another A team candidate.

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya -- The man was conspicuous by his absence. Did not get to play a single game despite taking 13 wickets from only 5 VH Trophy matches.  He is genuinely quick and bouncy and a left-armer too.  Saw him in a DY Patil match he was bowling some superb and fierce bouncers and yorkers.

 

 

Basil Thampi -- He has impressed most commentators and his team management due to his ability to bowl quick,  inswinging late-dipping yorkers at will.   That is a rare skill and he needs to be backed. he bowled 134 k to 144 k , was skiddy and got regular inswing. He has a somewhat round-arm action and a lowish release point and that often robs him of bounce when bowling good length. He has a good, quick bouncer. Needs to improve his accuracy regarding all deliveries. He bowled all the difficult overs even in his first IPL and that speaks volumes about the confidence that his team management has in him.

 

 

Ankit Rajpoot --  He did not get to play that many games too but did well whenever he was chosen. He is a tall pacer and can hit the deck hard. Gets good bounce.  Bowled 132 k to 142 k in this IPL but bowled upto 147 k last time. He gets seam movement with regularity and comes across as a skilled pacer for the shorter formats. Seen him swing the ball in FC too. Has a decent slower ball.

 

 

Shardul Thakur -- He was good one day and bad the next day. This inconsistency is due to the fact that he tries too many things and often ends up bowling a bad line, either down the leg or too wide.  He has a lot of skills, swing, reverse swing, seam movement, good bouncer, decent slower balls and decent yorkers....but needs to use them judiciously.  His speeds were 133 k to 145 k.

 

 

Aniket Chaudhary --  He was not supposed to be a T20 bowler and did not do that well barring a couple of matches. Needs to improve his yorkers.

 

But, he is a test prospect for sure as he is very tall, hits the deck hard, has a great bouncer and can swing the ball too. Bowls decent speeds too, 130 k to 143 k

Great analysis

@express bowling  

 

Nathusingh has been most impressive, but he is injury prone.On that counts MD Siraj seems to be the most promising young fast bowlers.Most of the bowlers seems to come out from a system of club cricket,u19 , but Siraj it seems has came out from nowhere ,had  a very good Ranji season.& also has bowled very well in the IPL.

Edited May 17, 2017 by tweaker

[the don]

21 hours ago, Vilander said:

yup you are right, Srinath never cheated so you can not compare him to cheats who used bottle-caps. spot on buddy. 

His teammates were the designated "ball shiners ". Fielders such as tendulkar and dravid used to prepare the ball for the indian bowlers and the match referee and the cameras did catch them too but unfortunately the indian bowlers were never good enough or quick enough to take advantage tbf .

Thats why the world doesnt rate srinath much . It was the simple lack of skills or an inferior skillset. Personally i respect him as he was a soft spoken workhorse who used to open the bowling with gully level bowlers.

Edited May 17, 2017 by the don

[the don]

2 minutes ago, the don said:

 

 

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[Rightarmfast]

19 hours ago, express bowling said:

My impressions of the new Indian fast-bowlers  in this IPL  --

 

Md.Siraj  -  He has been impressive. He has bowled with genuine pace with a very high percentage of deliveries at 135 k to 145 k. Plus he is a skiddy pacer who hurries on to the bat after pitching.  Gets inswing on a consistent basis and the in-dipping skiddy quick balls result in a lot of bowled outs and LBWs.  Has a good pacy bouncer and has developed decent yorkers and slower balls in this IPL.  Hits the deck hard when needed and his height is ok.   

 

The best thing is that he was learning as the tournament progressed. He took 41 wickets from only 9 FC matches this season and is the one bowler to look out for as he knows how to pick up wickets. Needs to be picked for our A team and can play all formats.

 

 

Avesh Khan -- He is tall and bouncy. Hits the deck hard and bowls a heavy ball.  Gets the ball to seam in and is accurate.... makes the batsmen play.  He is one of those quicks who hurry batsmen visually.  Can bowl lots of  140 k + deliveries in an over.  Reminds me a lot of Srinath.  He was really unlucky to miss 13 matches this season and should have been played by RCB.

 

He is a wicket taker too and was our best pacer in the last U19 WC. took loads of wickets. Don't know how he is not picked for the MP Ranji team.  The selectors must see to it that he plays Ranji next season and he is good enough for our A team too. He is one of the most exciting pace prospects from India and only 20, so he should add pace as he becomes older.

 

 

Nathu Singh -- He got injured and played only 2 games. But he is a big talent. Looked really good in those 2 games. Bowled 138 k to 145 k, swung the ball both ways, was very accurate and bowled a few good bouncers. His ER was only 3.75 in a T20 tournament. Would have shone even more if he had played 6 or 7 games. Another A team candidate.

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya -- The man was conspicuous by his absence. Did not get to play a single game despite taking 13 wickets from only 5 VH Trophy matches.  He is genuinely quick and bouncy and a left-armer too.  Saw him in a DY Patil match he was bowling some superb and fierce bouncers and yorkers.

 

 

Basil Thampi -- He has impressed most commentators and his team management due to his ability to bowl quick,  inswinging late-dipping yorkers at will.   That is a rare skill and he needs to be backed. he bowled 134 k to 144 k , was skiddy and got regular inswing. He has a somewhat round-arm action and a lowish release point and that often robs him of bounce when bowling good length. He has a good, quick bouncer. Needs to improve his accuracy regarding all deliveries. He bowled all the difficult overs even in his first IPL and that speaks volumes about the confidence that his team management has in him.

 

 

Ankit Rajpoot --  He did not get to play that many games too but did well whenever he was chosen. He is a tall pacer and can hit the deck hard. Gets good bounce.  Bowled 132 k to 142 k in this IPL but bowled upto 147 k last time. He gets seam movement with regularity and comes across as a skilled pacer for the shorter formats. Seen him swing the ball in FC too. Has a decent slower ball.

 

 

Shardul Thakur -- He was good one day and bad the next day. This inconsistency is due to the fact that he tries too many things and often ends up bowling a bad line, either down the leg or too wide.  He has a lot of skills, swing, reverse swing, seam movement, good bouncer, decent slower balls and decent yorkers....but needs to use them judiciously.  His speeds were 133 k to 145 k.

 

 

Aniket Chaudhary --  He was not supposed to be a T20 bowler and did not do that well barring a couple of matches. Needs to improve his yorkers.

 

But, he is a test prospect for sure as he is very tall, hits the deck hard, has a great bouncer and can swing the ball too. Bowls decent speeds too, 130 k to 143 k

Great write up. But please tell me @express bowling, is 20 20 the correct format to judge a bowlers potential? I hardly watched any match, but did see Thampi. He looked raw, but did see his yorkers. Also he seems like someone who will grow into a genuine quickie and also a confident man if shown trust by the captain.

[express bowling]

8 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

 is 20 20 the correct format to judge a bowlers potential?

I agree completely.  T20 is the most brutal format for quality pacers and we often see the slower ball experts doing well. It is a format  where we often see Rajat Bhatia outbowl Dale Steyn and Unadkat does much better than Shami.

 

Unfortunately, IPL is the only competition where our top cricketers and coaches get a chance to watch domestic players in action and may act as a great platform for these new guys to get in the lime-light quickly.

 

Which is why I have outlined the qualities of the new pacers  ( like pace, bounce, skiddiness,  height, swing, seam, accuracy, ability to bowl bouncers, yorkers etc. ) ......and not laid that much stress on actual performance.

 

Quote

I hardly watched any match, but did see Thampi. He looked raw, but did see his yorkers. Also he seems like someone who will grow into a genuine quickie and also a confident man if shown trust by the captain.

Top prospect and a genuine quick.

Edited May 17, 2017 by express bowling

[Vilander]

8 hours ago, the don said:

His teammates were the designated "ball shiners ". Fielders such as tendulkar and dravid used to prepare the ball for the indian bowlers and the match referee and the cameras did catch them too but unfortunately the indian bowlers were never good enough or quick enough to take advantage tbf .

Thats why the world doesnt rate srinath much . It was the simple lack of skills or an inferior skillset. Personally i respect him as he was a soft spoken workhorse who used to open the bowling with gully level bowlers.

No one in the world used bottle caps, or bit into the ball except obviously one team and no one from India used nails or sand or dirt from the pockets to rough up the ball as many teams did.

There appears to be no pace difference between Srinath and Waqar at their peak, Wasim was slower. Akthar was faster but only by a bit till 2002-3 where Akthar obviously moved to his express prime and Srinath regressed by then. Current Indian bowlers are faster than pakistani ones, and since they can not use foreign objects the swing on display is similar.

Since you have tried to be honest as you can, i have not tried to troll in this post. Clearly it is for all to see that pak fast bowlers benefited from roughing one side of the ball with foreign objects because the rule book did not clarify the rule in sufficient level of detail as it was held  in common knowledge on the ground to not take it to the level where it would be cheating.

Edited May 17, 2017 by Vilander

[express bowling]

The Pakistanis should be worried about the fact that they do not have a single pacer in their team now who ....can be considered a sureshot selection in their team and has started playing international cricket in the current decade, that is from 2010 onward.

 

That means their pace bowling culture is on the decline and new talents are not coming through.

Edited May 17, 2017 by express bowling

[Mosher]

On 5/16/2017 at 9:19 PM, express bowling said:

My impressions of the new Indian fast-bowlers  in this IPL  --

 

Md.Siraj  -  He has been impressive. He has bowled with genuine pace with a very high percentage of deliveries at 135 k to 145 k. Plus he is a skiddy pacer who hurries on to the bat after pitching.  Gets inswing on a consistent basis and the in-dipping skiddy quick balls result in a lot of bowled outs and LBWs.  Has a good pacy bouncer and has developed decent yorkers and slower balls in this IPL.  Hits the deck hard when needed and his height is ok.   

 

The best thing is that he was learning as the tournament progressed. He took 41 wickets from only 9 FC matches this season and is the one bowler to look out for as he knows how to pick up wickets. Needs to be picked for our A team and can play all formats.

 

 

Avesh Khan -- He is tall and bouncy. Hits the deck hard and bowls a heavy ball.  Gets the ball to seam in and is accurate.... makes the batsmen play.  He is one of those quicks who hurry batsmen visually.  Can bowl lots of  140 k + deliveries in an over.  Reminds me a lot of Srinath.  He was really unlucky to miss 13 matches this season and should have been played by RCB.

 

He is a wicket taker too and was our best pacer in the last U19 WC. took loads of wickets. Don't know how he is not picked for the MP Ranji team.  The selectors must see to it that he plays Ranji next season and he is good enough for our A team too. He is one of the most exciting pace prospects from India and only 20, so he should add pace as he becomes older.

 

 

Nathu Singh -- He got injured and played only 2 games. But he is a big talent. Looked really good in those 2 games. Bowled 138 k to 145 k, swung the ball both ways, was very accurate and bowled a few good bouncers. His ER was only 3.75 in a T20 tournament. Would have shone even more if he had played 6 or 7 games. Another A team candidate.

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya -- The man was conspicuous by his absence. Did not get to play a single game despite taking 13 wickets from only 5 VH Trophy matches.  He is genuinely quick and bouncy and a left-armer too.  Saw him in a DY Patil match he was bowling some superb and fierce bouncers and yorkers.

 

 

Basil Thampi -- He has impressed most commentators and his team management due to his ability to bowl quick,  inswinging late-dipping yorkers at will.   That is a rare skill and he needs to be backed. he bowled 134 k to 144 k , was skiddy and got regular inswing. He has a somewhat round-arm action and a lowish release point and that often robs him of bounce when bowling good length. He has a good, quick bouncer. Needs to improve his accuracy regarding all deliveries. He bowled all the difficult overs even in his first IPL and that speaks volumes about the confidence that his team management has in him.

 

 

Ankit Rajpoot --  He did not get to play that many games too but did well whenever he was chosen. He is a tall pacer and can hit the deck hard. Gets good bounce.  Bowled 132 k to 142 k in this IPL but bowled upto 147 k last time. He gets seam movement with regularity and comes across as a skilled pacer for the shorter formats. Seen him swing the ball in FC too. Has a decent slower ball.

 

 

Shardul Thakur -- He was good one day and bad the next day. This inconsistency is due to the fact that he tries too many things and often ends up bowling a bad line, either down the leg or too wide.  He has a lot of skills, swing, reverse swing, seam movement, good bouncer, decent slower balls and decent yorkers....but needs to use them judiciously.  His speeds were 133 k to 145 k.

 

 

Aniket Chaudhary --  He was not supposed to be a T20 bowler and did not do that well barring a couple of matches. Needs to improve his yorkers.

 

But, he is a test prospect for sure as he is very tall, hits the deck hard, has a great bouncer and can swing the ball too. Bowls decent speeds too, 130 k to 143 k

Top post bro.  

[Rightarmfast]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

The Pakistanis should be worried about the fact that they do not have a single pacer in their team now who ....can be considered a sureshot selection in their team and has started playing international cricket in the current decade, that is from 2010 onward.

 

That means their pace bowling culture is on the decline and new talents are not coming through.

As much as I complain about some of them, its pretty obvious on this forum that I always support Pakistanis on this forum. I personally feel its a great loss to world cricket. I had high hopes on Amir, but it was shattered a couple of weeks ago when I saw him bowling in late and mid 120's!!! I mean it. Now, that is Praveen kumar and venkatesh prasad kind of pace.  And it isnt even that I just saw an over or so. I watched the whole half day of the match atleast and his pace was consistently in 120's!

It's one thing to be bowling in 140's in 2020's and a few overs in ODI's and its different to bowling in Tests.  Its pretty sad. 

 

This also clarifies another point which Pakistanis of yester years used to taunt Indian bowlers with. That you need to eat beef to bowl fast. That's all BS! Even the great Imran Khan said so which is kind of hard to believe because I always thought he was well read.

The only reason or perhaps the main reason pakistanis were getting bowlers with high speed was because of the idols they had, Imran, Wasim and most importantly Waqar! Waqar would have been a rage in early 90's. And that prompted bowlers to bowl faster. You see something similar happening in India now. 

We had a a couple generations lamenting why India didnt have express bowlers and the youngsters took to that. So now we have Aaron, Umesh and the new guys! 

[Khota]

If you look at Amirs body makeup you know he can peak but not bowl consistently fast.

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

If you look at Amirs body makeup you know he can peak but not bowl consistently fast.

I think he has already peaked

[speedheat]

That kiwi pacer Scott kuggeligin looks fast, can anybody post his speeds please??

[sandeep]

10 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

As much as I complain about some of them, its pretty obvious on this forum that I always support Pakistanis on this forum. I personally feel its a great loss to world cricket. I had high hopes on Amir, but it was shattered a couple of weeks ago when I saw him bowling in late and mid 120's!!! I mean it. Now, that is Praveen kumar and venkatesh prasad kind of pace.  And it isnt even that I just saw an over or so. I watched the whole half day of the match atleast and his pace was consistently in 120's!

It's one thing to be bowling in 140's in 2020's and a few overs in ODI's and its different to bowling in Tests.  Its pretty sad. 

 

This also clarifies another point which Pakistanis of yester years used to taunt Indian bowlers with. That you need to eat beef to bowl fast. That's all BS! Even the great Imran Khan said so which is kind of hard to believe because I always thought he was well read.

The only reason or perhaps the main reason pakistanis were getting bowlers with high speed was because of the idols they had, Imran, Wasim and most importantly Waqar! Waqar would have been a rage in early 90's. And that prompted bowlers to bowl faster. You see something similar happening in India now. 

We had a a couple generations lamenting why India didnt have express bowlers and the youngsters took to that. So now we have Aaron, Umesh and the new guys! 

You have to factor in the sheer amount of cricket that players are involved today, compared to the 90s.   Workload will affect pace - there's no ambiguity there.

[vishalvirsingh]

On 2017-5-16 at 9:19 PM, express bowling said:

My impressions of the new Indian fast-bowlers  in this IPL  --

 

Md.Siraj  -  He has been impressive. He has bowled with genuine pace with a very high percentage of deliveries at 135 k to 145 k. Plus he is a skiddy pacer who hurries on to the bat after pitching.  Gets inswing on a consistent basis and the in-dipping skiddy quick balls result in a lot of bowled outs and LBWs.  Has a good pacy bouncer and has developed decent yorkers and slower balls in this IPL.  Hits the deck hard when needed and his height is ok.   

 

The best thing is that he was learning as the tournament progressed. He took 41 wickets from only 9 FC matches this season and is the one bowler to look out for as he knows how to pick up wickets. Needs to be picked for our A team and can play all formats.

 

 

Avesh Khan -- He is tall and bouncy. Hits the deck hard and bowls a heavy ball.  Gets the ball to seam in and is accurate.... makes the batsmen play.  He is one of those quicks who hurry batsmen visually.  Can bowl lots of  140 k + deliveries in an over.  Reminds me a lot of Srinath.  He was really unlucky to miss 13 matches this season and should have been played by RCB.

 

He is a wicket taker too and was our best pacer in the last U19 WC. took loads of wickets. Don't know how he is not picked for the MP Ranji team.  The selectors must see to it that he plays Ranji next season and he is good enough for our A team too. He is one of the most exciting pace prospects from India and only 20, so he should add pace as he becomes older.

 

 

Nathu Singh -- He got injured and played only 2 games. But he is a big talent. Looked really good in those 2 games. Bowled 138 k to 145 k, swung the ball both ways, was very accurate and bowled a few good bouncers. His ER was only 3.75 in a T20 tournament. Would have shone even more if he had played 6 or 7 games. Another A team candidate.

 

 

Kulwant Khejroliya -- The man was conspicuous by his absence. Did not get to play a single game despite taking 13 wickets from only 5 VH Trophy matches.  He is genuinely quick and bouncy and a left-armer too.  Saw him in a DY Patil match he was bowling some superb and fierce bouncers and yorkers.

 

 

Basil Thampi -- He has impressed most commentators and his team management due to his ability to bowl quick,  inswinging late-dipping yorkers at will.   That is a rare skill and he needs to be backed. he bowled 134 k to 144 k , was skiddy and got regular inswing. He has a somewhat round-arm action and a lowish release point and that often robs him of bounce when bowling good length. He has a good, quick bouncer. Needs to improve his accuracy regarding all deliveries. He bowled all the difficult overs even in his first IPL and that speaks volumes about the confidence that his team management has in him.

 

 

Ankit Rajpoot --  He did not get to play that many games too but did well whenever he was chosen. He is a tall pacer and can hit the deck hard. Gets good bounce.  Bowled 132 k to 142 k in this IPL but bowled upto 147 k last time. He gets seam movement with regularity and comes across as a skilled pacer for the shorter formats. Seen him swing the ball in FC too. Has a decent slower ball.

 

 

Shardul Thakur -- He was good one day and bad the next day. This inconsistency is due to the fact that he tries too many things and often ends up bowling a bad line, either down the leg or too wide.  He has a lot of skills, swing, reverse swing, seam movement, good bouncer, decent slower balls and decent yorkers....but needs to use them judiciously.  His speeds were 133 k to 145 k.

 

 

Aniket Chaudhary --  He was not supposed to be a T20 bowler and did not do that well barring a couple of matches. Needs to improve his yorkers.

 

But, he is a test prospect for sure as he is very tall, hits the deck hard, has a great bouncer and can swing the ball too. Bowls decent speeds too, 130 k to 143 k

Great analysis and patience to post it in 1 post.

[Vk1]

On Siraj... This may sound foolish but board should really identify certain places or pockets like old city in Hyderabad. Strong muscular well fed guys with quick arms can be found there.. I myself used to see many such kind in my school/college days. They somehow can bowl faster or hit longest than most others. Not pleasing to the eyes in technique but really effective. Is it genes or the food they eat I donno. Recently read here that Kerala board identifying talent from athletics group and thampi is from that background?

[Khota]

If you have the height and the right twitch muscle you are good to go.

[Rightarmfast]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

If you have the height and the right twitch muscle you are good to go.

I'd say, if you got the motivation, you will do it.

[Rightarmfast]

13 hours ago, sandeep said:

You have to factor in the sheer amount of cricket that players are involved today, compared to the 90s.   Workload will affect pace - there's no ambiguity there.

Didn't get the context. Are you trying to say that Umesh and co would bowl much quicker in 80's and 90's since there were less matches?

[sandeep]

7 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Didn't get the context. Are you trying to say that Umesh and co would bowl much quicker in 80's and 90's since there were less matches?

I'm saying that there are very few bowlers like Umesh, who can bowl at top pace for extended periods of time through so much cricket.  Other bowlers will not be able to sustain it.   Probably would have bowled a bit faster on average if the amount of bowling was reduced.  I think Amir falls in that category...