fineleg Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 What was the magic during WC2015 - how did the team do so well in WC?Bowling attack of Yadav, Shami, Bhuvi, Ashwin, Ishant, Jadeja?Did so well in WC2015? How? What was the magic - BOTH before WC and after WC the ODI team sucked, but they bowled like a charm and took 10 wickets in innings many times during WC?
Adi_91 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Not playing Aus helped in getting back the confidence. And some of the teams we played except Pakistan and SA were not good teams. So, we had a better world cup. I still feel India against any other team in Australia will be a more interesting watch.
jalebi_bhai Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) 1. Our boys had been in Australia for months. Played an entire Test and ODI tri-nation series. They were well acclimatized.2. 4 out of 7 wins came against Ireland, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and U.A.E.3. It's the World Cup. They were probably pumped up.4. Diff set of ODI rules. Edited January 21, 2016 by jalebi_bhai
rkt.india Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) We didn't play Aus till SF. That tactic of short pitch bowling worked against other but won't against Aus. Edited January 21, 2016 by rkt.india
sscomp32 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Mohammed Shami. +1. Shami was in super form and Umesh worked really well in tandem with him. Edited January 21, 2016 by sscomp32
WC2011INDIA Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 4 reasons1)By the time world cup arrived we had spent over 2 months there and were acclimatised to conditions2) we played against mostly weak teams. Only strong team we faced was south Africa. Don't count Pakistan because they had a weak team3) it was world cup. We tend to give our best so that there is no embarrassment like 2007 wc4) umesh and shami bowled well most of tournament But once we faced Australia it was game over. Shami also lost mojo by then. Singh bling 1
Rightarmfast Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Actually teams perform better when they just go out to have fun. In case of WC, they must be pumped up, especially the bowlers.But the present loss, you can clearly see that under Dhoni, players are not ' having fun '. They are not their normal self. Dhoni has lost it and I dont think he even has the respect of players. They are just going about their jobs without enthusiasm. I for one, blame the captain for the show. And anyway, a team is as good as the captain.
adi B Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 The team did well because they weren't facing Australia in every match,the moment they did ,they got their @r$e pounded!! Plus having shami also helped
adi B Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Even now if we played this series against any other team not named australia,we would be leading the series or maybe 2-2.Australia just massacres our bowling attack like no tomorrow and demoralize them on the other hand our bowlers will perform way Better against any other team in these conditions kruiser and Adi_91 2
puneet28 Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 One more factor in addition to listed above. Pitches were a giving a bit help to bowlers.We should make a note of one thing. If you give a green pitch, you can expect our batsmen to score at least 200 or fighting total and our bowlers will suddenly behave like Ambrose/Walsh etc.. But in case if it is flat track, our batsmen can do nothing more than 300 to 350 and our bowlers aren't capable to defend that.Remember when we played Sri Lanka in Rajkot in 2009, scoring 418 odd we just won by 3-4 runs in the end. We are bad at defending at on flat tracks. But in helping conditions, we have decent attack.
JaFanatic Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 The only difference is the opponents. adi B 1
The Realist Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 There was no Pishant at the WC. May explain why did relatively well.
G_B_ Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 What was the magic during WC2015 - how did the team do so well in WC?Bowling attack of Yadav, Shami, Bhuvi, Ashwin, Ishant, Jadeja?Did so well in WC2015? How? What was the magic - BOTH before WC and after WC the ODI team sucked, but they bowled like a charm and took 10 wickets in innings many times during WC?the magic was we did not play Australia.If you remember 2015 world cup the semis sort of remaineded me of matches in this series.
Stuge Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 We played everyone except Australia .We are yet to beat them over a year now.Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk We played everyone except Australia .We are yet to beat them over a year now.Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk
fineleg Posted January 21, 2016 Author Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) But two questions remain:1. We did beat SA and Pak - both are good teams more than capable of beating us on Aus pitches.2. And apart from "just winning" - our bowlers were very good - 10 wickets in innings many times repeatedly. So impressive. I think if they can bowl the same way even now in this series - while we may lose this series - we will have 3-2 type series loss, rather than 5-0 which is upcoming. But after WC, we lost ODI series to Bangladesh and SA-in-India, and other ODI losses too. Edited January 21, 2016 by fineleg
Brainfade Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 Did they use Kookaburras or Dukes in the WC?
gattaca Posted January 21, 2016 Posted January 21, 2016 But two questions remain:1. We did beat SA and Pak - both are good teams more than capable of beating us on Aus pitches.2. And apart from "just winning" - our bowlers were very good - 10 wickets in innings many times repeatedly. So impressive. I think if they can bowl the same way even now in this series - while we may lose this series - we will have 3-2 type series loss, rather than 5-0 which is upcoming. But after WC, we lost ODI series to Bangladesh and SA-in-India, and other ODI losses too.SA and Pak are not great ODI teams. SA chocked like they always do. Our bowlers need time to adjust to the lengths in Australia since we were there two months before they learnt what is good length to bowl. As Ganguly mentioned our team hasnt done great in last 5 years which is true apart from Champions trophy, world cup. Also Champions trophy was on spin friendly pitches. We sucked big time and still are.
Adi_91 Posted January 22, 2016 Posted January 22, 2016 I worry now after this big defeat, we may look like minnows at home against Lungans who are minnows themselves.
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