Rabada vs Amir

[Rightarmfast]

Rabada, by some distance. However, I would go with Bumrah! If am still alive in the next 5 years, lets see how correct this turns out to be.

[chewy]

Amir is definetely good, but rather have Rabada,

it's pretty clear by now Amir is selfish person, plays for the limelight and only capable of short bursts of world class bowling, then goes awol, then comes a nice juicy track and people go gaga, hype machine repeats.  

[sandeep]

Rabada bowls pace.  In all formats.  regardless of conditions.  Amir trundles unless there's some extra "skin in the game".   Look at Rabada's test performances and contrast them with Qaidi # 5.  Both played a series in England recently.   

 

Its not even close.  

 

Amir is this generation's greenbro version of Irfan Pathan with the Pakistani talunt of phixing thrown in - promising start then fades away to a condition reliant bowler.   Best he can manage is an odd spell here and there that's worthy of being considered top class.  Rest of the time its non-penetrative bowling that is correctly reflected by his wicket statistics.  

[sandeep]

52 minutes ago, chewy said:

Amir is definetely good, but rather have Rabada,

it's pretty clear by now Amir is selfish person, plays for the limelight and only capable of short bursts of world class bowling, then goes awol, then comes a nice juicy track and people go gaga, hype machine repeats.  

I don't know if he's selfish and all that - bit of extra speculation there IMHO.  But he's definitely over-rated and nowhere near as effective a bowler as Rabada.  

[King Tendulkar]

Amir and his age like other paks lol 

 

reminds me of story Swann told . As both him and shoaib Malik played in same under 19 World Cup . Swann  is 38 while Malik is apparently 35 

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

Rabada bowls pace.  In all formats.  regardless of conditions.  Amir trundles unless there's some extra "skin in the game".   Look at Rabada's test performances and contrast them with Qaidi # 5.  Both played a series in England recently.   

 

Its not even close.  

 

Amir is this generation's greenbro version of Irfan Pathan with the Pakistani talunt of phixing thrown in - promising start then fades away to a condition reliant bowler.   Best he can manage is an odd spell here and there that's worthy of being considered top class.  Rest of the time its non-penetrative bowling that is correctly reflected by his wicket statistics.  

yes, there is no comparison between the two. amir is not suited for tests; he is, however, so-so in ODIs.

[RAZPOR]

Shami is better than both.

[sandeep]

18 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

Shami is better than both.

Shami needs a dominating series, or even a test performance, away from home, to enter the conversation.   

[RAZPOR]

16 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Shami needs a dominating series, or even a test performance, away from home, to enter the conversation.   

And what dominating test series does amir or rabada have away from known conditions?? 

Amir shouldnt even in be in the contention or converstation,for rabada atleast there is a case based on record,however padded it is.

Anyways we ll see both soon enough in SA.

[Mosher]

3 minutes ago, Vijy said:

yes, some players should play only on certain pitches (also applies to spinners too).

No. If you are a "special" talent as Amir is hyped up by Pakistanis then you have to perform in all conditions. 

[Vijy]

4 minutes ago, Mosher said:

No. If you are a "special" talent as Amir is hyped up by Pakistanis then you have to perform in all conditions. 

He is just about as "special" as Ishant or Mohd. Sami (the Pak one) is.

[Rightarmfast]

Ishant is honestly way better than Amir. He isnt that useless.

[Vilander]

2 hours ago, sandeep said:

Shami needs a dominating series, or even a test performance, away from home, to enter the conversation.   

From what has been seen Shami and Aamir are different class bowlers. There is no comparison.

[sandeep]

3 hours ago, RAZPOR said:

And what dominating test series does amir or rabada have away from known conditions?? 

Amir shouldnt even in be in the contention or converstation,for rabada atleast there is a case based on record,however padded it is.

Anyways we ll see both soon enough in SA.

Rabada just took a 10-fer and averages in the teens at home.   Has Shami taken a 10-fer anywhere yet?

 

Don't get me wrong, I believe a fully fit Shami is world class and bound to address this sooner rather than later. But he hasn't really taken wickets in bunches yet.  

[mancalledsting]

Amir since his return has been a huge disappointment. He had two excellent games, both against India. Other than that he has been mediocre. Rabada has been on fire in certain matches....no comparison really 

[velu]

4 hours ago, King Tendulkar said:

Amir and his age like other paks lol 

 

reminds me of story Swann told . As both him and shoaib Malik played in same under 19 World Cup . Swann  is 38 while Malik is apparently 35 

do you have any video clips about this ?  :rotfl:

 

 

 

[RAZPOR]

55 minutes ago, sandeep said:

Rabada just took a 10-fer and averages in the teens at home.   Has Shami taken a 10-fer anywhere yet?

 

Don't get me wrong, I believe a fully fit Shami is world class and bound to address this sooner rather than later. But he hasn't really taken wickets in bunches yet.  

thats difficult when you bowl with jadeja and ashwin,in subcontinent.

 

and as i pointed out i have no issue with you mentioning rabada,but amir??? what is that based on???

Edited October 8, 2017 by RAZPOR

[Scar]

AMIR in ODIs for me, however in test rabada by fair margin.

Edited October 8, 2017 by Scar

[Muloghonto]

So turns out comparing Amir and Rabada was like comparing a Civic with a do-it-yourself super-charger kit on, with a Ferrari. After 2 years, the 'pretend-o ferrari' mod broke off and the Civic exposes itself.

 

[Vijy]

53 minutes ago, Scar said:

AMIR in ODIs for me, however in test rabada by fair margin.

amir has done well in ODIs, but so has rabada