philcric Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 M Vijay KL Rahul C Pujara * V Kohli A Rahane + W Saha R Ashwin A Mishra M Shami U Yadav I Sharma
ShebbySB Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 Rahul Vijay Pujara Kohli Rahane Saha Ashwin Jadeja Mishra Ishant Umesh
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 3 hours ago, vishalvirsingh said: kl Rahul, Pujara and Murli Vijay are really slow batters in a test match ...if the bowling goes one level Up..these guys have the capability to score at 2 runs an over for 60 overs...we cant be playing all the three together in the 11. india has to target to score at 3.5 runs an over to win in a Test match too if they wanna WIN or else Wi will save the test match. virat and rahane may find it tough to score at a brisk rate if all these 3 score 50's in 150 balls each. there are very high chance that these 3 could score a 50 each too...but yes if these 3 will play together windies have great chances to draw the match. Beauty of a Test Match is that Many So called experts think that Test means dig in and PLAY SLOW but the winners don't do that. wining team has to not only score more runs then the opposition but also score runs at a faster rate and give their Bowlers a Chance to get opposition Batsman OUT. if the bowlers don't get enuf opportunity the match turns into a DRAW.... so I am against playing Pujara, Rahul and Murli together 2 of the 3 are enuf. Pujara rahul vijay all can change gear if they have to yes not an extent of other but still will do decent. Rahul has the power game . N whom do u want to play Dhawan n Rohit walking wkts n even if they score runs it will harm the team more as they get a chance to play rubbish in next 20 test matches. 1st u need proper batsman n if they can play fast thats an advantage but no point having walking wkts for the sake of RunRate. While facing west indies Run rate shudnt be much of an issue as their bowlers lack discipline so they will offer freebies every now n then.
kruiser Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 4 hours ago, ShebbySB said: Rahul Vijay Pujara Kohli Rahane Saha Ashwin Jadeja Mishra Ishant Umesh my team as well. We should play 3 spinners and 2 pacers on slow pitches of WI.
bowl_out Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 6 hours ago, philcric said: M Vijay KL Rahul C Pujara * V Kohli A Rahane + W Saha R Ashwin A Mishra M Shami U Yadav I Sharma Same team except Bhuvi in place of Shami to boost up lower order batting.
gattaca Posted July 18, 2016 Posted July 18, 2016 vijay Kohli Rahane Ishant remaning all are fillers anyway
Mosher Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 According to CI - Ishant, Shami and Binny had a lengthy spell in the training session. Umesh, Bhuvi and Shardul didn't ball that much. All 3 spinners had a long workout too. So it looks like Ishant, Shami, Ashwin, Mishra and Binny/Jaddu will be our bowling attack. Would have preferred Umesh instead of Shami as Shami looked quite rusty in the practice matches. tweaker and express bowling 2
Adi_91 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 22 hours ago, Mosher said: According to CI - Ishant, Shami and Binny had a lengthy spell in the training session. Umesh, Bhuvi and Shardul didn't ball that much. All 3 spinners had a long workout too. So it looks like Ishant, Shami, Ashwin, Mishra and Binny/Jaddu will be our bowling attack. Would have preferred Umesh instead of Shami as Shami looked quite rusty in the practice matches. True. Umesh (although a spray gun) offers the pace option. Surprised that Kohli is not showing the intent to go with him.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 23 hours ago, Mosher said: According to CI - Ishant, Shami and Binny had a lengthy spell in the training session. Umesh, Bhuvi and Shardul didn't ball that much. All 3 spinners had a long workout too. So it looks like Ishant, Shami, Ashwin, Mishra and Binny/Jaddu will be our bowling attack. Would have preferred Umesh instead of Shami as Shami looked quite rusty in the practice matches. As long as shami bowls with 100% intensity i dnt mind . In Aus n Eng he wasnt doing it, his pace was down n by his run up n action it looked clear he was holding back. I hope he doesnt as he has a lot of skill.
Mosher Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: As long as shami bowls with 100% intensity i dnt mind . In Aus n Eng he wasnt doing it, his pace was down n by his run up n action it looked clear he was holding back. I hope he doesnt as he has a lot of skill. As far as skills are concerned both Umesh and Shami very similar skills. Both can move the new bowl around, can bowl decent bouncers and are very good with the old ball. Both have a tendency to spray the ball sometimes. Umesh beats Shami as far as pace is concerned but not by much.
tweaker Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 55 minutes ago, Mosher said: As far as skills are concerned both Umesh and Shami very similar skills. Both can move the new bowl around, can bowl decent bouncers and are very good with the old ball. Both have a tendency to spray the ball sometimes. Umesh beats Shami as far as pace is concerned but not by much. Kohli has openly endorsed Shami skills,maybe he has high hopes from Shami.He wants Shami to be his goto bowlers
express bowling Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Umesh bowled really well in the last test series we played and especially in the last test. Got reverse swing at 140 k to 150 k and picked up quite a few wickets on a slow track. His below par performances in LOIs have little meaning in test matches. I hope the team management does not confuse formats. If the pitches are slow and grass-less then reverse swing and pace in the air would be important. Umesh and Shami would be better picks in that case. If the pitches have bounce then Ishant is a must. velu, Vilander, Mosher and 1 other 4
sourab10forever Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 4 hours ago, express bowling said: Umesh bowled really well in the last test series we played and especially in the last test. Got reverse swing at 140 k to 150 k and picked up quite a few wickets on a slow track. His below par performances in LOIs have little meaning in test matches. I hope the team management does not confuse formats. If the pitches are slow and grass-less then reverse swing and pace in the air would be important. Umesh and Shami would be better picks in that case. If the pitches have bounce then Ishant is a must. He was good in Delhi but that's only one match....failed in the other matches he played.
express bowling Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, sourab10forever said: He was good in Delhi but that's only one match....failed in the other matches he played. Umesh played just 2 test matches in that series. In the Delhi test he picked up 5 wickets at an ER of 1.24 In the Mohali test match, he bowled just 9 overs in the whole match as the spinners were getting a lot of help and had an economy rate of 2.11. He bowled in good areas in both test matches and hence the good ERs. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=match Edited July 20, 2016 by express bowling sourab10forever 1
Adi_91 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I like the idea of 5 specialist bowlers even at the cost of making the batting weak. Anyway, from Rohit, its a gamble when it comes to scoring runs in this batting lineup.
Vilander Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 On 7/18/2016 at 3:16 AM, CoverDrive said: I hope Mishra gets some kind of run. We need to develop a good leggie if we have to do well in all sorts of conditions. Look at what Yasir was able to do. Mishra is the best leggie we have. While i agree in principle. I should note that there appears nothing develop-able with Mishra, he is well and truely developed and all he can ever be at the moment.
sourab10forever Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 46 minutes ago, express bowling said: Umesh played just 2 test matches in that series. In the Delhi test he picked up 5 wickets at an ER of 1.24 In the Mohali test match, he bowled just 9 overs in the whole match as the spinners were getting a lot of help and had an economy rate of 2.11. He bowled in good areas in both test matches and hence the good ERs. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/376116.html?class=1;template=results;type=bowling;view=match Hmm... still he is quite senseless at times...against WI will be his best chance.
Vilander Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, Adi_91 said: I like the idea of 5 specialist bowlers even at the cost of making the batting weak. Anyway, from Rohit, its a gamble when it comes to scoring runs in this batting lineup. one of the batsmen being Saha.
maniac Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Vijay Pujara Kohli Rahane Rohit Saha Jadeja Ashwin Mishra Ishant Yadav
Adi_91 Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Vilander said: one of the batsmen being Saha. The moment Rohit comes to bat, we know not much batting to come from him and from there on. Edited July 20, 2016 by Adi_91
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