The Outsider Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Yes, and they will not succeed, because of the above mentioned reason : Hindus are far easier to 'prove that God is an improbable concept at best and move on with practical realities of life' than Muslims are. If you think that India would ever have more than a few riots here or there as worst case scenarios, you are smoking more ganja than most people i know. You equating RSS with the Nazis is laughable and it can be easily proved by examining their manifesto as well as operational history. Its akin to pitting the Koh-i-noor versus a drill bit diamond... Why are riots needed when RSS already is ruling India and Muslims and Dalits are already living a life of subjugation? 10 minutes ago, mishra said: What are you trying to say? 12 year old cant be a terrorist? Suicide bomber few weeks back used in Turkish wedding was 12 year only. I would say interrogate his parents, siblings teachers and parents. Was the 12 year old that we murdered a terrorist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Why are riots needed when RSS already is ruling India and Muslims and Dalits are already living a life of subjugation? Was the 12 year old that we murdered a terrorist? do WE murdered him on purpose ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Why are riots needed when RSS already is ruling India and Muslims and Dalits are already living a life of subjugation? Was the 12 year old that we murdered a terrorist? Because the RSS are not ruling India. BJP != RSS. RSS is a minor component of BJP. Let them take over BJP first before I worry. More importantly, i don't think there is a better alternative to de-islamify India either. If you do, i am all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, velu said: do WE murdered him on purpose ? Yes we did. I am party to that murder as a citizen of this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Yes we did. I am party to that murder as a citizen of this country. what is the purpose of OUR murder ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Muloghonto said: Because the RSS are not ruling India. BJP != RSS. RSS is a minor component of BJP. Let them take over BJP first before I worry. More importantly, i don't think there is a better alternative to de-islamify India either. If you do, i am all ears. Oh bhai, all the BJP top brass today are from RSS. RSS worked on the ground to ensure the '14 win. Ministers give presentations to RSS annually on their progress to make this a Hindutva nation. Kaun si duniya mein ho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Oh bhai, all the BJP top brass today are from RSS. RSS worked on the ground to ensure the '14 win. Ministers give presentations to RSS annually on their progress to make this a Hindutva nation. Kaun si duniya mein ho? as if you are talking like you are an Insider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, velu said: what is the purpose of OUR murder ? Purpose of the murder we committed is pseudo nationalism. Where we hide our economic, military, and diplomatic failings through a show of bravado. 4 minutes ago, velu said: as if you are talking like you are an Insider Can your 'logical' mind think of any other reason why the government will present to RSS on an annual basis? Let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Purpose of the murder we committed is pseudo nationalism. Where we hide our economic, military, and diplomatic failings through a show of bravado. Can your 'logical' mind think of any other reason why the government will present to RSS on an annual basis? Let me know. our epic failing as a state , diplomatic , economic and social were during the grand rule of congress .. and it is your responsibility to prove that meeting between the ministers and RSS is for making a hindutva nation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 1 minute ago, velu said: our epic failing as a state , diplomatic , economic and social were during the grand rule of congress .. and it is your responsibility to prove that meeting between the ministers and RSS is for making a hindutva nation.. Congress se itni nafrat na karo ki you start supporting assholes who never engaged in the freedom struggle and are the antithesis of what India was supposed to be. It's a simple choice- Godse or Gandhi? Shubh Ratri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 46 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Oh bhai, all the BJP top brass today are from RSS. RSS worked on the ground to ensure the '14 win. Ministers give presentations to RSS annually on their progress to make this a Hindutva nation. Kaun si duniya mein ho? Most of them started off with organizations affiliated with the RSS. Not direct RSS brass. Ministers give presentation to RSS because RSS is a subset of BJP. Why should a party not give presentations towards all its factions ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zen Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 (edited) 39 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Congress se itni nafrat na karo ki you start supporting assholes who never engaged in the freedom struggle and are the antithesis of what India was supposed to be. It's a simple choice- Godse or Gandhi? Shubh Ratri. The actual Congress that participated in Ind's independence (Gandhi's) congress is no longer in existence. Many of the leaders of the original congress have founded or joined other parties .... the current Congress is Congress - I. In fact, it should be sued for marketing itself as the "original" Congress Hopefully, you are not confused by the similar surnames of Mahatma Gandhi and Indira Gandhi And it is wrong to say that "Godses" are not responsible for Ind's independence. Azad Hind Force played key role as well. Azad Hind Force made Indian soilders serving British Army rethink their allegience with the British Army. This mutuny also made British realize that it would be hard to control Ind without the support of Ind soilders Edited October 9, 2016 by zen diga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muloghonto Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 34 minutes ago, The Outsider said: Congress se itni nafrat na karo ki you start supporting assholes who never engaged in the freedom struggle and are the antithesis of what India was supposed to be. It's a simple choice- Godse or Gandhi? Shubh Ratri. It is *not* Godse vs Gandhi. It is Subhash Bose vs Nehru. BJP overtly & covertly follows Subhash Bose as its commander-in-chief paradigm, Congress overtly & covertly follows Jawaharlal Nehru as its commander-in-chief paradigm. Gandhi is not part of the picture of the operational reality of Congress, having semi-retired, symbolic figurehead status in the congress well before independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) 10 hours ago, The Outsider said: Oh bhai, all the BJP top brass today are from RSS. RSS worked on the ground to ensure the '14 win. Ministers give presentations to RSS annually on their progress to make this a Hindutva nation. Kaun si duniya mein ho? http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/pak-is-our-brother-government-must-work-to-improve-ties-rss/story-2alDDREVrfXyBj0ID2UDIN.html Pak is our ‘brother’, government must work to improve ties: RSS Hope, all your conspiracy theories got busted with this. You have left even Pakistanis behind with your conspiracy theories. 19 hours ago, The Outsider said: My question still remains that why is Hindu Hriday Samrat wearing the choga of secularism? Because in civilized nations secularism might still be a myth but it is something civilized people aspire to. Not like barbarians who openly say they'll screw the minorities. India is a barbaric nation where we pull the facade of secularism to get accepted on larger forums. Such barbarism needs to be opposed and rejected. Abhi bhi saaf saaf nahin bola. Go ahead and say you support Godse over Gandhi! you keep talking about Godse. Why did he kill Gandhi? What his intention behind it? He knew he would be killed as well then why would he do that risking his life. Edited October 10, 2016 by rkt.india velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) On 9 October 2016 at 7:11 PM, The Outsider said: Was the 12 year old that we murdered a terrorist? I dont know details or if what youvare saying is correct or Not. Fact is 12 year olds are holding gun, pullin trigger, throw grenades. Now, do you think Security forces labelled, planned and killed him because he was terrorist? Was he killed by a sharp shooter? Or was the death more of circumstantial or accidental or collateral? Do you think life if security forces have no value, are they not allowed to value their own lives? Or is protecting a injured unconscious soldier/ police personnel from teen stone pelting mob/ hooligans while he is on route to hospital is incorrect? Edited October 10, 2016 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, The Outsider said: Congress se itni nafrat na karo ki you start supporting assholes who never engaged in the freedom struggle and are the antithesis of what India was supposed to be. It's a simple choice- Godse or Gandhi? Shubh Ratri. Not a single asshole in current politics is freedom fighter. Godse didnt just killed Gandhiji, he also killed Congress too (It started with nehuru becoming PM and giving Father of nation jhunjhuna to gandhiji). Just like a priest selling the name of god and declaring himself as gods representative, Nehuru's has been selling a Gujju Gandhijis name when in reality, they have No Gujrati link in their genetic/etical/moral structure. Edited October 10, 2016 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 (edited) On 10/9/2016 at 2:11 PM, The Outsider said: Why are riots needed when RSS already is ruling India and Muslims and Dalits are already living a life of subjugation? Was the 12 year old that we murdered a terrorist? Yes......that 12 year old was not in some school or a playground but at a violent rally.....what was he doing there? so when LTTE or even the other islamic terrorist groups have child soldiers as human bombs should they be left alone? What was a 12 year old doing there should be the first logical question but you seem to have lost all semblance of logic here....I will sympathize with the kid if his parents brought him there and put him in the line of fire to prove a point...in that case army needs to teach such parents a lesson too. Indian Army doesn't kill children in schools or playgrounds.....so stop selling this stupid logic.....if a toddler gets run over by a car when he/she somehow strolls over into a high-speed highway...it is not the motorists fault 9/10 times but the fault is with the parents for being reckless....same analogy applies here. Edited October 11, 2016 by maniac Detonator, beetle and gattaca 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sandeep Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 When civilians suffer its a tragedy. When its children, its something so sad and horrific that words can't describe. Sending kids in harms way is parents fault. But not controlling the situation and allowing these mob situations to repeatedly occur, not equipping the police and forces with proper tools and training to maintain the peace is the responsibility of the government. Using such tragic incidents to peddle the propaganda of a country that has the blood of innocents on its hand using "non-state actors" for furthering its own political strategies is shameful as well. zen, velu and gattaca 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 On 10/10/2016 at 0:53 AM, zen said: The actual Congress that participated in Ind's independence (Gandhi's) congress is no longer in existence. Many of the leaders of the original congress have founded or joined other parties .... the current Congress is Congress - I. In fact, it should be sued for marketing itself as the "original" Congress Hopefully, you are not confused by the similar surnames of Mahatma Gandhi and Indira Gandhi And it is wrong to say that "Godses" are not responsible for Ind's independence. Azad Hind Force played key role as well. Azad Hind Force made Indian soilders serving British Army rethink their allegience with the British Army. This mutuny also made British realize that it would be hard to control Ind without the support of Ind soilders Azaad Hind Force was based on a socialist ideology and had nothing to do with the Sanghis. On 10/11/2016 at 11:25 PM, maniac said: Yes......that 12 year old was not in some school or a playground but at a violent rally.....what was he doing there? so when LTTE or even the other islamic terrorist groups have child soldiers as human bombs should they be left alone? What was a 12 year old doing there should be the first logical question but you seem to have lost all semblance of logic here....I will sympathize with the kid if his parents brought him there and put him in the line of fire to prove a point...in that case army needs to teach such parents a lesson too. Indian Army doesn't kill children in schools or playgrounds.....so stop selling this stupid logic.....if a toddler gets run over by a car when he/she somehow strolls over into a high-speed highway...it is not the motorists fault 9/10 times but the fault is with the parents for being reckless....same analogy applies here. He was not at a school or a playground because we've imposed a curfew of 3+ months whereby such goodies are not allowed. On 10/10/2016 at 0:59 AM, Muloghonto said: It is *not* Godse vs Gandhi. It is Subhash Bose vs Nehru. BJP overtly & covertly follows Subhash Bose as its commander-in-chief paradigm, Congress overtly & covertly follows Jawaharlal Nehru as its commander-in-chief paradigm. Gandhi is not part of the picture of the operational reality of Congress, having semi-retired, symbolic figurehead status in the congress well before independence. You've lost any semblance with reality. Bose was a socialist. What does BJP have to do with socialism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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