MCcricket Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 Shhardul, UndKunt, Arvind, all trundlers or at best 124 to 135 bowlsrs
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, maniac said: 130-135k lol....check out vinay Kumar onthose ranji tracks....Steyn and Johnson will look ordinary in comparison not impressed...I will take Binny over him....guilty to say this but I like binny the batsman thats y i said i cant make out much on those tracks. But if u have bought try him , he has been highly rated by zaheer , jeoff thompson, sachin. I like Binny, he is decent bowler and decent batsman. The guy saved a test match in Eng for us Only problem is his effective reduces with old ball and being an all rounder who would always get an 15-20 over old ball. In test he is the best seaming all rounder we have , people accept it or not maniac 1
nevada Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 14 hours ago, sandeep said: Shardul? A bit drastic. Shardul is a domestic trundler, a marathi vinay kumar. He can do what Ishant does, but just much worse. And I'm a Bombay guy. But I'm sure Kohli's going to feel the burn of this draw. I would be surprised if there are no changes to the bowling "attack". lol. Is he that bad?
rkt.india Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 4 hours ago, maniac said: 130-135k lol....check out vinay Kumar onthose ranji tracks....Steyn and Johnson will look ordinary in comparison not impressed...I will take Binny over him....guilty to say this but I like binny the batsman Vinay kumar bowls 125 in ranji trophy.
express bowling Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) Most pacers seem to clock higher speeds in international cricket than in our domestic matches, exception being Unadkat. May have something to do with domestic cricket speed-guns. Shardul bowls 128 k to 142 k in Ranji....so it is possible that he may bowl 132 k to 145 k. ( can never be sure of these things though ) Edited August 5, 2016 by express bowling
mishra Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 I would prefer BK over Ishant if he bowls same pace every over as he did in IPL for Hyderbadis. beetle and sscomp32 2
express bowling Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) 39 minutes ago, mishra said: I would prefer BK over Ishant if he bowls same pace every over as he did in IPL for Hyderbadis. Bhuvi has added another tool to his bowling now. His ability to bowl bouncers, as well as getting decent bounce from some short of length deliveries , has improved a lot. His excellent seam position helps these deliveries. It would keep the batsmen guessing and make his pitched up swinging deliveries more effective. Bhuvi's yorkers have improved too. He has increased his pace in T20s as well as ODIs. Not sure about his pace in test matches though. We saw in the Asia Cup that if the conditions favour swing, he still retains his ability to get swing consistently and effectively. I am very impressed with his will to improve. Edited August 5, 2016 by express bowling beetle, sscomp32 and mishra 3
mishra Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 ^ Exactly, Since he has been dropped, He seems to have gained some muscle mass and look a lot more threatening. I hope he will be part of test setup very soon. Since we are playing 5 bowlers there is not much risk of overbowling and cranking beetle and sscomp32 2
express bowling Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, mishra said: ^ Exactly, Since he has been dropped, He seems to have gained some muscle mass and look a lot more threatening. I hope he will be part of test setup very soon. Since we are playing 5 bowlers there is not much risk of overbowling and cranking Have you seen him bowling in a 4 day or 5 day domestic game recently ? That will give us a better idea.
mishra Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, express bowling said: Have you seen him bowling in a 4 day or 5 day domestic game recently ? That will give us a better idea. No, They dont show Indian domestic matches here. IPL is only domestic league which provides a window to gauge domestic cricketers to overseas fans
express bowling Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 13 minutes ago, mishra said: No, They dont show Indian domestic matches here. IPL is only domestic league which provides a window to gauge domestic cricketers to overseas fans You will find some official live streams on the BCCI website. mishra 1
rkt.india Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) B o o b y should replace Umesh who was pedestrian in 2nd test. 2 hours ago, express bowling said: Have you seen him bowling in a 4 day or 5 day domestic game recently ? That will give us a better idea. He has not played much domestic cricket since then. Edited August 5, 2016 by rkt.india
express bowling Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 17 minutes ago, rkt.india said: He has not played much domestic cricket since then. Ok. Thanks. It would be nice if we get a chance to see him bowl in a non-international 5 day or 4 day match.
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 4 hours ago, express bowling said: Most pacers seem to clock higher speeds in international cricket than in our domestic matches, exception being Unadkat. May have something to do with domestic cricket speed-guns. Shardul bowls 128 k to 142 k in Ranji....so it is possible that he may bowl 132 k to 145 k. ( can never be sure of these things though ) Well if you have bought him, might as well give him a chance to know how good or bad he is. After this there would be home series where only 2 seamers would play and by no means he would get a chance. Trying him in difficult overseas tour could backfire more. This i think would be the perfect opp to try him. Ishant already not doing something great so we wont miss much and atleast with a newcomer one thing is for sure he ll put all effort. IF he is bad we could move on and try others in future. tweaker 1
Ankit_sharma03 Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, express bowling said: Have you seen him bowling in a 4 day or 5 day domestic game recently ? That will give us a better idea. My ques with bhuvi has always been his effectiveness on flat pitches or when the ball gets old. I think that is where a team Mngmt knows much that how much has he improved in that aspect. Im not to worried about him as he would get his chances in england till that time he can keep working hard on his bowling. Ill try shardul this time, even though i dont expect team Mngmt to do the changes. Kohli does fall for reputations at times, be it with Bhajji, ishant, yuvraj or rohit Edited August 5, 2016 by Ankit_sharma03 tweaker and express bowling 2
Texan Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 If Vijay is fit, then - Vijay Rahul Pujara Kohli Rahane Ashwin Bhuvneshwar Saha Mishra Shami Umesh tweaker, beetle and Mosher 3
beetle Posted August 5, 2016 Posted August 5, 2016 2 hours ago, Mosher said: Vijay and Bk in. Unlucky and Dhawan out. Unlucky kaun?? If Bhuvi doesn't play the next match then...... If Vijay is fit ,then sit out Pujara. Vijay Dhawan KLRahul Virat Ajinkya Saha Ashwin Shami Bhuvi Ishant/Umesh Jadeja/Mishra
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