This article nails Dhoni's current state - flaws and all

[moniker]

Unfortunately there is no proper replacement for Dhoni, especially when it comes to wicket keeping.. dhoni is brilliant...

Time is running out...

You don't require a specialist keeper for T20s. A proper batsman who can keep a bit should do the job.

[Gambit]

Its funny to note blind Dhoni fans crying about no replacements when they were the first ones to dismiss that theory when Fab 4 were struggling. 

 

Dhoni is amongst the most inefficient T20 batsman (among batsmen who have played >30-40 games) in the short history of the game.

[express bowling]

There are quite a few keeper batsmen who can be tried in T20s.  

[Rightarmfast]

Dhoni is 35? Looks like atleast 40 to me. He is past his sell by date!

[Laaloo]

Comment from Rahulrulezz. He posts on ICF from time to time.

 

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rahulrulezz on August 31, 2016, 18:29 GMT

 

Matches India lost because of Dhonis tactics where his slow batting costed the match to India, again there are probably many more. There are various other matches but only these come in mind on top of my head. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/648651.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/656493.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667641.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667645.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/667649.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/903593.html

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/903597.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/commonwe...ch/518959.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engin...ch/565820.html http://m.espncricinfo.com/zimbabwe-v-india 2016/engine/current/match/1007655.html

http://m.espncricinfo.com/west-indies-v-india-2016/engine/current/match/1041615.html http://www.espncricinfo.com/england-v-india-2014/engine/match/667731.html

 

[velu]

22 minutes ago, laaloo said:

Comment from Rahulrulezz. He posts on ICF from time to time.

 

 

 

first link ..

 

SA scored 358 and we scored 217 and dhoni is responsilbe

 

[Laaloo]

Just now, velu said:

 

first link ..

 

SA scored 358 and we scored 217 and dhoni is responsilbe

 

yeah I checked the first couple of times and I couldnt see what he was talking about. The rest are spot on though.

[Laaloo]

3rd link is much better. Start from there. Ignore the first two. And take your yellow tinted glasses off.

[sscomp32]

12 hours ago, Viper said:

For his sake i even checked 2nd link wc 2015 ind vs aus

 

If he went after from first ball would have ended up near 180 embarrassing  even than 233 huh

 

Is he out of his mind when making stuff like that...

I checked every link and Possible Valid arguments are: IND v NZ T20 2012, IND v ENG T20 2014, IND v ZIM T20 2016, IND v SA ODI 2015. 

Rest all are absolute BullShit. Blind hate is injurious. We already have 3/4 people suffering. 

[velu]

Every player lose some game and dhoni is no exception..

In international T20, there is a valid case that he did screw few games ..

But there is no argument about his status in ODIs..

[Gambit]

Of all batsmen who have made over 400 runs in T20s, Dhoni ranks 65th in terms of strike rate even below the likes several Zimbabweans, Scots, Afghans etc. That says it all.

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmax1=5000;qualmin1=400;qualval1=runs;size=100;template=results;type=batting

[velu]

1 hour ago, Gambit said:

Of all batsmen who have made over 400 runs in T20s, Dhoni ranks 65th in terms of strike rate even below the likes several Zimbabweans, Scots, Afghans etc. That says it all.

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=3;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_strike_rate;qualmax1=5000;qualmin1=400;qualval1=runs;size=100;template=results;type=batting

 

not a bad stat considering dhoni i striking more than some batsmen who has the reputation to score fast ( david hussey , taylor , samuels , mathews , dilshan etc .. )

msd strike rate is more than dhawan and gambhir

 

[sandeep]

I think Dhawan should be benched in T20s.  KL Rahul's emergence is the death knell for his India career I think. 

 

But we need good left-handed batsmen, especially in T20s and ODIs.  Who are the lefty prospects coming through?  Too many righties make it too easy for the other team.  

[express bowling]

14 hours ago, sandeep said:

I think Dhawan should be benched in T20s.  KL Rahul's emergence is the death knell for his India career I think. 

 

But we need good left-handed batsmen, especially in T20s and ODIs.  Who are the lefty prospects coming through?  Too many righties make it too easy for the other team.  

 

Dhawan should definitely be benched in T20Is.

 

A SR of  aleast around 130 for those who have to bat during the first 15 overs and  a SR of atleast around 140  for those who have to bat in the last 5 overs, in combination with acceptable averages....is what we should strive for in T20Is.  

 

Only  Kohli, Rohit , Rahul, Raina  and , to some extent,  Hardik are good T20I batsmen in our team and we lack lower-middle order 140+  SR batsmen apart from Hardik.

 

Can't off-hand think of a new left-handed batsman for T20Is.....who has a realistic chance of representing India.

Edited September 2, 2016 by express bowling

[velu]

 

Dhawan should definitely be benched in T20Is.

 

A SR of  aleast around 130 for those who have to bat during the first 15 overs and  a SR of atleast around 140  for those who have to bat in the last 5 overs, in combination with acceptable averages....is what we should strive for in T20Is.  

 

Only  Kohli, Rohit , Rahul  and , to some extent,  Hardik are good T20I batsmen in our team and we lack lower-middle order 140+  SR batsmen apart from Hardik.

 

Can't off-hand think of a new left-handed batsman for T20Is.....who has a realistic chance of representing India.

You forgot raina already

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, velu said:

 

You forgot raina already

 

You are right.  Raina has been  good when he has been used in the first 15 overs.

 

I forgot about him due to his lack of form in the last 1 year or thereabouts and exclusion from the last series.      

 

 

Edited September 1, 2016 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

12 hours ago, velu said:

 

not a bad stat considering dhoni i striking more than some batsmen who has the reputation to score fast ( david hussey , taylor , samuels , mathews , dilshan etc .. )

msd strike rate is more than dhawan and gambhir

 

None of them you mentioned is great in t20s.

[Vilander]

Dhoni haters be like;

Dhoni was part of CSK 

Must hate no matter what.

 

Fanboys say , But he is not the worst bat among Indian internationals currently.

 

haterz say Must hate him anyway.

 

Alrite poyz suit yourself.

[express bowling]

45 minutes ago, Vilander said:

Dhoni haters be like;

Dhoni was part of CSK 

Must hate no matter what.

 

Fanboys say , But he is not the worst bat among Indian internationals currently.

 

haterz say Must hate him anyway.

 

Alrite poyz suit yourself.

 

More than personal love or hate......the question is, whether Dhoni, Dhawan and Rahane should be in our T20I team based on their current ability, form and stats in  T20Is  ?

[rkt.india]

15 hours ago, Viper said:

So called one of the best t20 batsmen rohit sharma has strike rate of 129 with 31 while dhoni with 122 with a average of 33.. Dhawan and rahane somewhere near 113 or 116.

I don't see people crying about their strike rate.

Dhawan and Rahane should not be in the T20 team at all. Also, Dhoni's SR used to be around 110-115 and only improved this year.