Are Australians the worst players of swing bowling currently?

[Texan]

Got bundled out for 47 vs SA 5 years ago.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/wi/engine/match/514029.html

 

All out for 60 last year. 

 http://www.espncricinfo.com/wi/engine/match/743969.html

 

And now, in danger of getting all out under 100 again. 

 

Not to foget, they are pretty poor against spin having been whitewashed by both Ind and SL. 

 

Seem to me that they are the latest flat track bullies. 

 

Are they the worst at playing swing among the top teams today (excluding WI)?

[MechEng]

Australian batsmen were never really great players of swing bowling. Only till mid 1990's they had batsmen who could play the moving ball well. The reason is that the opposition teams were afraid of preparing green wickets because then they will have to face Mcgrath, Gillespie and Lee on the same pitch. And now they have drop in wickets which is certainly not good for traditional batting.

[Cricketics]

I would say Pakistan, then West indies and then all are at same rank.

 

They have had few bad days like you mentioned above but I won't call them the worst players of swing bowling.

[SUMO]

certainly worst against spin...
may be touch better than SL WI facing swing...

[Texan]

36 minutes ago, Cricketics said:

I would say Pakistan, then West indies and then all are at same rank.

 

They have had few bad days like you mentioned above but I won't call them the worst players of swing bowling.

Pakistan batsmen did pretty well in England recently. WI has been excluded because they are more like minnows now. Probably the only team that plays swing equally badly or worse is SL.

[Lannister]

The amount of flat pitches are decreasing recently whilst the boards are opting for more bowler-friendly wickets. The pretenders (T20 hacks) are getting exposed all over the World. 

Edited November 12, 2016 by Lannister

[Trichromatic]

India has only 2 good players of swing bowling, Vijay and Rahane and even Vijay isn't that consistent.

[Texan]

47 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

India has only 2 good players of swing bowling, Vijay and Rahane and even Vijay isn't that consistent.

True. But Australia probably has none.

[Trichromatic]

1 hour ago, Texan said:

True. But Australia probably has none.

Smith survived today.

[express bowling]

The ability to play swing has gone down all over the world.  perhaps because batsmen are not playing as much county cricket  after the advent of T20 leagues all over the world.

 

The comfort level against  pace and bounce have improved a lot....perhaps due to batsmen practicing with bowling machines and better protective gear.  Even the great players of fast bowling in the earlier decades did not  really like it.  Now, we see even mediocre batters stepping out to 90 mph quicks.

 

In the '80s and '90s, batsmen used to wait for swing  bowlers and were afraid of fast bowlers.

 

Now, batters  are  ok  with fast bowlers and are wary of  good swing bowlers ( preferably with pace ) , especially when there is swing on offer.

Edited November 12, 2016 by express bowling

[MechEng]

1 hour ago, express bowling said:

The ability to play swing has gone down all over the world.  perhaps because batsmen are not playing as much county cricket  after the advent of T20 leagues all over the world.

 

The comfort level against  pace and bounce have improved a lot....perhaps due to bowling machines and better protective gear.  Even the great players of fast bowling in the earlier decades did not  really like it.  Now, we see even mediocre batters stepping out to 90 mph quicks.

 

In the '80s and '90s, batsmen used to wait for swing  bowlers and were afraid of fast bowlers.

 

Now, batters want fast bowlers and are wary of  good swing bowlers, especially when there is swing on offer.

This is a good point. Few days ago I was watching Donald vs Atherton spell on youtube, Atherton was hopping and jumping and completely off balance even when Donald was bowling in 86-89 mph range. Fast forward to India's Australia tour in 2012 and Ishant Sharma in one of the tests comfortable defends a 150 kph short ball from Peter Siddle on backfoot.

 

 

Edited November 12, 2016 by MechEng

[putrevus]

Indians are no better than Aussies, on top of it Indians can't play pace as well as Aussies.

[Forever Indian]

Australia = Rohit Sharma of Cricketing world. Can't play Swing or Spin, only pattas or bouncy surface.

[fineleg]

Maybe yes.

But, Lets focus on Indian team, Aussies will sort this out in due course.

[G_B_]

In an era of home advantage Australia being found out a rather too often.

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[SLICKR392]

Water is wet and South Africa are beating the Aussies in their own backyard. They have always pwned Aussies at their own turf!

[Texan]

Aussie batting thoroughly exposed here. Pathetic against spin and p!ss poor against swing and seam. FTBs and can play bounce well, thats all. 

[MechEng]

All Aussie batsmen have a strong bottom hand grip, nobody plays with soft hands.