Kohli's top innings on difficult conditions (bowler friendly conditions+bowlers exploiting those conditons)

[Trichromatic]

This series had some low scoring matches with slow tracks or bowling friendly tracks which is uncommon in India for ODIs. Remember England series were we had 300+ everytime.

 

7 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Naah, just had SR of 81.

 

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
RG Sharma (INDIA)	5	5	0	296	125	59.20	284	104.22	1	2	0	22	14
AJ Finch (AUS)	3	3	0	250	124	83.33	257	97.27	1	1	0	28	8
DA Warner (AUS)	5	5	0	245	124	49.00	262	93.51	1	1	0	23	5
AM Rahane (INDIA)	5	5	0	244	70	48.80	295	82.71	0	4	0	29	1
HH Pandya (INDIA)	5	4	0	222	83	55.50	204	108.82	0	2	0	13	12
V Kohli (INDIA)	5	5	0	180	92	36.00	222	81.08	0	1	1	15	0
MP Stoinis (AUS)	5	5	3	153	62*	76.50	175	87.42	0	1	0	12	6
SPD Smith (AUS)	5	5	0	142	63	28.40	182	78.02	0	2	0	14	0
KM Jadhav (INDIA)	5	5	1	138	67	34.50	159	86.79	0	1	0	15	2
TM Head (AUS)	5	5	0	119	42	23.80	148	80.40	0	0	0	10	1
MS Dhoni (INDIA)	5	4	1	100	79	33.33	114	87.71	0	1	0	6	3

Kohli is outperformed by likes of Rahane and 5-6 other batsmen. Probably next series on flat pitches will see him at top again.

[Vilander]

3 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

This series had some low scoring matches with slow tracks or bowling friendly tracks which is uncommon in India for ODIs. Remember England series were we had 300+ everytime.

 

Kohli is outperformed by likes of Rahane and 5-6 other batsmen. Probably next series on flat pitches will see him at top again.

yeah but the 92 was on the toughest pitch :)

[Trichromatic]

41 minutes ago, Vilander said:

yeah but the 92 was on the toughest pitch :)

Yes, that was great inning, but overall the trend is same. Once the conditions are difficult, others start outperforming him. Be it SA test series, Australia home series, tour to England. WI series in 2011. 

 

He remains way too ahead of ahead of other on roads - Eng series at home, Aus tour, tons of bilateral ODIs. No one comes even close.

[Nonbeliever]

36 minutes ago, Trichromatic said:

Yes, that was great inning, but overall the trend is same. Once the conditions are difficult, others start outperforming him. Be it SA test series, Australia home series, tour to England. WI series in 2011. 

 

He remains way too ahead of ahead of other on roads - Eng series at home, Aus tour, tons of bilateral ODIs. No one comes even close.

Don't post bitter truth here..

[express bowling]

Only the first 2 ODIs posed any difficulty for our batters.

 

We scored 294 in less than 48 overs to win the 3rd ODI .... scored 313 in the 4th ODI .... and won the 5th ODI scoring 243 for 3 in less than 43 overs .... none of our batters looked in any trouble in these 3 matches.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2017 by express bowling

[Nonbeliever]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Only the first 2 ODIs posed any difficulty for our batters.

 

We scored 294 in less than 48 overs to win the 3rd ODI .... scored 313 in the 4th ODI .... and won the 5th ODI scoring 243 for 3 in less than 43 overs .... none of our batters looked in any trouble in these 3 matches.

 

 

That 2nd odi also pitch played ok for first 35 overs.  Even rahane scored a nice little fifty and got run out only.

[SK_IH]

11 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

This series had some low scoring matches with slow tracks or bowling friendly tracks which is uncommon in India for ODIs. Remember England series were we had 300+ everytime.

 

Kohli is outperformed by likes of Rahane and 5-6 other batsmen. Probably next series on flat pitches will see him at top again.

once again your bias against kohli is making you overlook the facts:

1st odi: he got out to a superb catch, 2 inches more it would have been a boundary,**** happens

2nd odi : he played the best knock in the game

3rd odi: absolute patta, we were chasing 30-40 runs below par thanks to our bowling and virat looked in prime touch , one cover      drive still comes to mind of cummins ,but got out to a soft dismissal

4th odi : ok this was a failure,he should have chased down the score that day

5th odi : okayish innings ,tried finishing the game early,got out in the process,another soft dismissal

 

so, it looks like just one failure in the 4th game and every human being is allowed one odd failure.And also it is clear, the returns had nothing to do with the pitches,because most of the pitches were very good to bat

[rkt.india]

11 hours ago, Trichromatic said:

This series had some low scoring matches with slow tracks or bowling friendly tracks which is uncommon in India for ODIs. Remember England series were we had 300+ everytime.

 

Kohli is outperformed by likes of Rahane and 5-6 other batsmen. Probably next series on flat pitches will see him at top again.

Rahane opened and opening is the best spot on such pitches, the reason all openers did well Rahane, Rohit, Warner, Finch and middle order from both teams except Pandya struggled. 

[express bowling]

Kohli  121 off 125 balls vs NZ   .... Next highest score in his team 37

 

Difficult batting conditions .... ball swung early on ...  ball was stopping and coming from the 11th over onward

 

It was very hot and humid 

 

Team was struggling at 71 for 3

 

 

Edited October 22, 2017 by express bowling

[Trichromatic]

5 minutes ago, express bowling said:

Kohli  121 off 125 balls vs NZ   .... Next highest score in his team 37

 

Difficult batting conditions .... ball swung early on ...  ball was stopping and coming from the 11th over onward

 

It was very hot and humid 

 

Team was struggling at 71 for 3

 

 

More than anything it was the ball stopping on which made stroke making difficult. Top inning.

[putrevus]

What was most bowler friendly pitch on which Sachin scored an odi hundred.


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[Nonbeliever]

Almost 3 hundreds in the game and it's tough conditions lol.

[Pollack]

NZ bowled brilliantly. Conditions weren't very difficult. Won't say it was veRy good when India was batting but only 20% difficult. Obviously a batsman of  kohli stature won't find it difficult. But to count it as an innings under difficult conditions is a stretch.

Edited October 22, 2017 by Pollack

[Jimmy Cliff]

10-15 years down the line idiots will be calling this a selfish match-losing hundred.

[rkt.india]

5 minutes ago, Nonbeliever said:

Almost 3 hundreds in the game and it's tough conditions lol.

Pitch got settled as the game went on.

Edited October 22, 2017 by rkt.india

[Nonbeliever]

1 minute ago, rkt.india said:

Pitch got settled as the game went on.

The thing is we have a pathetic middle order.  Things will always be difficult for them.

[Pollack]

8 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Pitch got settled as the game went on.

It settled down pretty much halfway through Indian batting. And it wasn't very difficult to begin with imho. NZ bowlers especially buolt bowled brilliantly.

[Nonbeliever]

The difference is.

Had Kohli chased it down it would have the inings of the year.  But when somebody else does it pitch gets easier.

[King Tendulkar]

God we are pathetic 

 

a lot of people spent 20 years looking for ways to hammer Sachin .  Now same spurious bull  **** being used on Kohli 

 

Embarrasing some Indian are . Legends and amazing players, enjoy them folks 

Edited October 23, 2017 by King Tendulkar

[SK_IH]

On 23/10/2017 at 3:19 AM, gharampaani said:

Tests or ODIs? 

In ODIs, there aren't many challenging conditions these days. Pitches in England are just as flat as those in India, albeit with less turn. Australia is only slightly better for bowlers but can still be very flat. NZ is slightly better in providing a bat/ball contest but the quality of their players isn't that good. It would be very interesting to see him on the bigger grounds of Dubai or Abu Dhabi, against the Pak line up on pitches that do not produce many 280+ scores. So, in ODIs, we have to look at his performances in world tournaments and he hasn't done very well in tournament KO games. Could he not handle the pressure? 

 

As for tests, he looked like a joke in England, where there is genuine swing, seam and pace on offer for bowlers. In the Windies, where the pitch can stick and not always produce the best batting tracks, he again looked out of sorts.  In NZ his numbers are bolstered by a big not out but other than that, he batted just ok. Although the century did help his team draw the match but was that simply an anomaly? We'll find out when he tours again. 

blah blah blah yeah virat is average,view point from garampaani

 

i basically laugh at this arguments against kohli the odi batsman,he is a freak.in so far as playing ko games is concerned i know there is no outstanding innings so far in odis but there are in t20s and in due course it will happen in odis as well

 

coming to last match,good innings ,wont say anything great about it but he made a mistake at toss,you dont give opposition a chance to chase at wankhede