fineleg Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 kohli vying for worst indian captain title? Link to comment
maniac Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, sandeep said: If Pant has the goods, he'll get through. Hardik Pandya made it in through the T20 route. Pandya was dropped after Wt20 iirc...even though he "technically" won that famous game against Bangladesh in Wt20,people still thought he was raw and not that impressive. His ODI performances against Nzl is what kind of stabilized him If you are talking about IPL then sure Pant stood out in IPL as well but I am talking about international chances. Link to comment
sandeep Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, maniac said: Pandya was dropped after Wt20 iirc...even though he "technically" won that famous game against Bangladesh in Wt20,people still thought he was raw and not that impressive. His ODI performances against Nzl is what kind of stabilized him If you are talking about IPL then sure Pant stood out in IPL as well but I am talking about international chances. But he got those NZ ODI chances because of his T20 efforts. Pant will hopefully do the same. Link to comment
maniac Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Just now, sandeep said: But he got those NZ ODI chances because of his T20 efforts. Pant will hopefully do the same. 2 different things are you saying IPL or T20I? Pandya wasn't that impressive in Wt20 Link to comment
Pollack Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Giving chance to DK. Not giving chance to Pant. Can it be more clearer whom Kohli is trying to save? Laaloo, Tendu_10 and beetle 3 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 (edited) @sandeep players like Pandya(both bros) Pant Samson will get more opportunities than the average domestic player because they are IPL stars...but they will get to show their mettle at T20 level . For an allrounder it is relatively easier as if he fails with the bat he can pick up buckets of wickets in t20 format given the nature of the format. It is not that easy for a batsman to show what he has in that format. Not making excuses already for a potential failure for Pant in T20...all I am saying is Odi format will give us a better idea if he really has it Edited July 6, 2017 by maniac Link to comment
Laaloo Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, Pollack said: Giving chance to DK. Not giving chance to Pant. Can it be more clearer whom Kohli is trying to save? Clearer to us? yes. Link to comment
sandeep Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, maniac said: all I am saying is Odi format will give us a better idea if he really has it Agreed. I think you are overly anxious on Rishabh - he's been anointed as the first among the next keeper prospects, he will get his chance. I'm more worried about Samson - I think he could be a quality ODI opener for us, and want him in the mix. Samson, Shreyas Iyer, - these guys are the next 'quality' bats coming through IMO. I would prefer to have them get chances sooner rather than later... Vk1 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 1 minute ago, sandeep said: Agreed. I think you are overly anxious on Rishabh - he's been anointed as the first among the next keeper prospects, he will get his chance. I'm more worried about Samson - I think he could be a quality ODI opener for us, and want him in the mix. Samson, Shreyas Iyer, - these guys are the next 'quality' bats coming through IMO. I would prefer to have them get chances sooner rather than later... I am not anxious, if he fails or succeeds it's totally on him to make the best of his opportunities. Just questioning the management if it is being done the right way...applies to any youngster. Samson to got opportunities in T20 in Zim but never in the scheme of things as there was nothing much for him to show. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Rasgulla Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 28 minutes ago, mishra said: I think next coach will put him in place Shastri will arrange t20 matches in pubs and clubs for him.. Will give him massages and lick his feet if needed Only think he will put in his X in his mouth Link to comment
Sachinism Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 tbf most young players drafted into the main squads are just as benchwarmers. Nothing unusual here Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 41 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: Kuldeep is very lucky to have made his international debut earlier because of Kumble and Rahane otherwise he would be in the same boat as Pant. i was thinking the same about pandya under dhoni sscomp32, Tendu_10, Rasgulla and 1 other 4 Link to comment
Tibarn Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 So far Kohli has played Nair Jayant Yadav Karn Sharma (Test debut) He hasn't given a chance to Pant Shardul Thakur express bowling and Tendu_10 2 Link to comment
Sidhoni Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 44 minutes ago, Tibarn said: So far Kohli has played Nair Jayant Yadav Karn Sharma (Test debut) He hasn't given a chance to Pant Shardul Thakur You could say he didn't give a chance to Kuldeep vs Aus. Part of the reason for the fallout with Kumble if rumours are to be believed. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
SandeepMotta Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Kohli just wants to be the alpha male of the team. He is least bothered about the teams future or success, he wants no one to rise unless ofcourse they sign up with Bunty sajdeh Link to comment
Tibarn Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, Sidhoni said: You could say he didn't give a chance to Kuldeep vs Aus. Part of the reason for the fallout with Kumble if rumours are to be believed. I forgot Kuldeep Yeah, Kuldeep got his debut under Rahane. Link to comment
Malcolm Merlyn Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Kohli is insecure. beetle 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 59 minutes ago, Tibarn said: So far Kohli has played Nair Jayant Yadav Karn Sharma (Test debut) He hasn't given a chance to Pant Shardul Thakur So far the oldies that came back under kohli Yuvi Bhajji GAmbhir karthik Parthiv ( chalo ye xample chodh diya) beetle 1 Link to comment
Tibarn Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: So far the oldies that came back under kohli Yuvi Bhajji GAmbhir karthik Parthiv ( chalo ye xample chodh diya) To be fair, Yuvi DK, and Gambo all were part of the team under Dhoni as well. Yuvi makes a return to the team every ICC tournament, just like in the last WT20. Karthik played in CT 2013 and Gambo played in our last tour of England. Parthiv only came because Saha was injured. Bhajji is the only one that seems to really come out of nowhere during Kohli's captaincy. Link to comment
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