Dale Steyn - Kagiso Rabada - Morne Morkel - Vernon Philander Vs. Indian batting line-up

[Shamim.Miah]

Dale Steyn - Kagiso Rabada - Morne Morkel - Vernon Philander Vs. Indian batting line-up.

 

This is a deadly bowling unit. How tough will it be for the indian batsman to handle those pacers in SA?

I reckon it would be a struggle for any team.

 

As India are a subcontinent team, the sudden move to SA from the standard slow, flat wickets can cause them big problem.

 

Who do you think will shine amongst the indian batsman and bowlers? what are the expectation?

[chewy]

Unlikely all four will play together, Maharaj will be lone spinner and they will continue picking Phelkuwayo as the black quota pick

[Shamim.Miah]

11 minutes ago, chewy said:

Unlikely all four will play together, Maharaj will be lone spinner and they will continue picking Phelkuwayo as the black quota pick

They already have Temba Bavama, Kagiso Rabada and Philander?

That's three, what is the quota? to pick 4 black quota picks?

Edited December 26, 2017 by Shamim.Miah

[Shamim.Miah]

At first-class level the number is six non-whites of which two have to be black African. It is non-negotiable.

 

For the Proteas, as the national side are known, the quota number is the same as at first-class level but it is more flexible and an average is taken across the year, rather than implemented in every match.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2017/07/01/crickets-quota-system-has-impacted-south-africa/

 

They can still play Steyn and Morkel. But have to find a good combination to keep quota.

[King Tendulkar]

Phelywanko will play as black quota player 

 

so bhaji was spot on 

[SUMO]

With KG as fixed either one of bavuma or phelukwayo will play, isn't it ?

[MCcricket]

Indian wkts are no longer flat slow, but sporty, n offer some bounce especially last couple of years, Steyn is making a comeback after a long break, n is no longer the same force, Morkel too is coming after a break, Think India will do better then  when it drew the series away in SA, Viajy, Pujara, Rahane, Virat are good enuff only wish Dhawan wasn't there n KL Rahul was, Bowling wise Shami could have a break through year n in these two years be counted as world class pacer, BK will do well n Bumrah can as well, Pandya will get wkts only worry is jaded Umesh, hope Saini is picked also not to forget Saha n Ashwin will contribute significantly as well, hope they play Kuldeep or Chahal max one spinner .

[Suhaan]

Great bowling lineup....Dhavan at the top makes things easier for these four..Kohli has a problem outside offstump.If we dont get a good start (which is bound to happen)Kohli will have to face the new ball

[vishalvirsingh]

1 hour ago, Suhaan said:

Great bowling lineup....Dhavan at the top makes things easier for these four..Kohli has a problem outside offstump.If we dont get a good start (which is bound to happen)Kohli will have to face the new ball

pujara and Vijay are going to be the Key..if these guys eat up Balls well..kohli ,dhawan , and may be rahul ( as rahane is out of form) may bat at no 5 and even pandya and saha will enjoy...if the ball becomes a bit old when kohli comes to bat , we will score big time.

Pandya is a must as he is two player in 1.

i am good even if india does not play a single Spinner as africans are dead scared of ashwin and even jadeja , pitches they will offer will never turn , though they have TAHIR and that Maharaj..i think they use their spinner as a defensive bowler to make their pacers relax a bit.

if the pitch assists spinners even little then Ashwin becomes very deadly which is too dangerous for Africa.

i think we would get pitch like dharamshala where we won against lanka but in first innings the pitch was unplayable..may not be that much unplayable but pitches are going to be pace friendly.

so key will be VIJAY and Pujara ..if they score 50 off 100 balls each ..india is winning bcos dhawan will score run a ball even if he scores 5 runs...though he seems in great form ..kohli too can score 100 off 100...pandya cud also score a quick 50 as he bats well against short pitched bowling.

[express bowling]

This is how the Indian batters fared on the last tour to  SA against Steyn, Morkel,   Philander and Kallis

 

Pujara, Kohli and Rahane .... all averaged 68 to 70

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
CA Pujara	2	4	0	280	153	70.00	600	46.66	1	1	0	36	0
AM Rahane	2	4	1	209	96	69.66	442	47.28	0	2	0	29	2
V Kohli	2	4	0	272	119	68.00	488	55.73	1	1	0	33	0
M Vijay	2	4	0	148	97	37.00	375	39.46	0	1	0	25	0
MS Dhoni	2	4	0	87	29	21.75	185	47.02	0	0	0	11	0
S Dhawan	2	4	0	76	29	19.00	184	41.30	0	0	0	9	0
R Ashwin	1	2	1	18	11*	18.00	25	72.00	0	0	0	2	0
RG Sharma	2	4	0	45	25	11.25	102	44.11	0	0	1	4	1
Z Khan	2	4	1	32	29*	10.66	75	42.66	0	0	2	3	2
RA Jadeja	1	2	0	8	8	4.00	8	100.00	0	0	1	0	1

 

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=3;orderby=batting_average;spanmax1=01+Jan+2014;spanmin1=18+Dec+2013;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

Edited December 26, 2017 by express bowling

[cowboysfan]

i hate that we are going to be so unprepared again in SA,they are beatable but we just shoot ourselves in the foot in every away series with no preparation at all

[Vilander]

Gabbar is going to eat them alive. He will twitch his moush as he walks in

 

And grin as he walks out

 

[Vilander]

KLR will carry drinks.

 

[msb1991]

If South Africa managed to get all four of those fit in South African conditions then I'm not sure any team has a chance? 

[King Tendulkar]

Philander in last test was bowling sub 130

often 

 

phleanakyo was bowling often sub 130 . If I was unadkunt would consider take up sa nationality and become saffie like Tahir , he is dark enough to full black quota .

 

there is hope ? Some rusty saffies . 

[Gollum]

On 12/27/2017 at 2:11 AM, express bowling said:

This is how the Indian batters fared on the last tour to  SA against Steyn, Morkel,   Philander and Kallis

 

Pujara, Kohli and Rahane .... all averaged 68 to 70

 

 

Overall figures

Player	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
CA Pujara	2	4	0	280	153	70.00	600	46.66	1	1	0	36	0
AM Rahane	2	4	1	209	96	69.66	442	47.28	0	2	0	29	2
V Kohli	2	4	0	272	119	68.00	488	55.73	1	1	0	33	0
M Vijay	2	4	0	148	97	37.00	375	39.46	0	1	0	25	0
MS Dhoni	2	4	0	87	29	21.75	185	47.02	0	0	0	11	0
S Dhawan	2	4	0	76	29	19.00	184	41.30	0	0	0	9	0
R Ashwin	1	2	1	18	11*	18.00	25	72.00	0	0	0	2	0
RG Sharma	2	4	0	45	25	11.25	102	44.11	0	0	1	4	1
Z Khan	2	4	1	32	29*	10.66	75	42.66	0	0	2	3	2
RA Jadeja	1	2	0	8	8	4.00	8	100.00	0	0	1	0	1

 

 

 

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;opposition=3;orderby=batting_average;spanmax1=01+Jan+2014;spanmin1=18+Dec+2013;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=batting

 

What impresses me there are Vijay's balls faced column. He faced average 95 balls per innings, for an opener that is very impressive. If he can't replicate that feat this time, I fear even our middle order stats will take a big hit. 

[Gollum]

Last time they had Tahir, Peterson and Duminy as their spin options now they have Keshav Maharaj...no respite. Also Kallis was mediocre with the ball last time, I expect Saffers to play all 4 of their premium quicks this time. 

[Temujin Khaghan]

* I thought kohli can get on with his training after the honeymoon, marriage and Delhi reception

 

just saw news that there is another Mumbai reception

 

and then the new year celebrations with Bollywood, Ambanis and Rohit Sharma 

 

then in 5 days time he will go to face steyn...

 

scary..!!!

Edited December 28, 2017 by Temujin Khaghan

[rkt.india]

2 hours ago, Gollum said:

Last time they had Tahir, Peterson and Duminy as their spin options now they have Keshav Maharaj...no respite. Also Kallis was mediocre with the ball last time, I expect Saffers to play all 4 of their premium quicks this time. 

Maharaj is no better than Bojey, Peterson or Paul Harris. just another ordinary left armer.

[rkt.india]

1 hour ago, Temujin Khaghan said:

* I thought kohli can get on with his training after the honeymoon, marriage and Delhi reception

 

just saw news that there is another Mumbai reception

 

and then the new year celebrations with Bollywood, Ambanis and Rohit Sharma 

 

then in 5 days time he will go to face steyn...

 

scary..!!!

team is already in SA.