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Kohli's captaincy is the reason for RCB's poor show every IPL


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Royal Challengers Bangalore will never ever win the IPL trophy under Captain Kohli. This guy just doesn't have it in him to be a good captain in LOI's like his RCB teammate De Villiers. The best players don't necessarily make the best captains. 

I am not a Dhoni bhakt like @velu or @Shunya and I know a lot of members of this forum dislike Dhoni but even they have to admit that he is a superior captain in LOI's than Kohli in every aspect. Unfortunately for Kohli, he doesn't have MSD to hide behind like he does while playing for Team India. 

RCB have had players such as Gayle, AB, Starc, Chahal, Yuvraj, Karthik (Best Indian WK-Bat in T20 cricket) and Kohli himself all in the same XI yet they still kept flopping. In fact, Other than Chahal, RCB hasn't developed even 1 youngster that could play for the national team.

Other teams like MI (Bumrah, Hardik, Rayudu), KKR (Pandey, Kuldeep, Umesh), CSK (Raina, Ashwin, Jadeja) have done a great job with their young Indian talent and were a key factor in helping them play for Team India. I see nothing of this kind happening from the RCB camp! 

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2 minutes ago, BeardedAladdin said:

 

You need good Indian players to win the IPL. Only 4 foreigners can play, so even if your foreigners hit, you'll lose if your Indian players aren't very good.

 

Historically, RCB hasn't had many good Indian players, outside of Kohli himself.

 

To be honest, they haven't had many good foreign players either. Gayle and AB were the only good ones.

That's why I am saying that RCB doesn't know how to develop its Indian players the same way MI or KKR do. 

Actually, you don't even have to look towards those teams. Just flashback to last year and remember how Pune groomed it's 3 youngsters in Sundar, Tripathi and Unadkat. They were only 1 run away from lifting the trophy but it was because of these 3 young men that Pune had an amazing IPL 2017. If Pune can mould their young guns, then why can't RCB? 

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10 minutes ago, velu said:

they had Rahul and they let him go .. most of their problems might have solved if they retained him instead of SK :rotfl:

 

1 batsman can't change anything if the captaincy is substandard. 

Even today, MI should never have made 200+ after losing 2 wickets in the first over. Little things like not giving Umesh a third over or bowling Chahal right after the PP ended came back to haunt them. 

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6 hours ago, SecondSlip said:

1 batsman can't change anything if the captaincy is substandard. 

Even today, MI should never have made 200+ after losing 2 wickets in the first over. Little things like not giving Umesh a third over or bowling Chahal right after the PP ended came back to haunt them. 

one of the main problem is rcb lacks a balanced team and top heavy .. with a player like rahul , they can atleast solve their top heavy problem by shuffling their top heavy batting order

kohli will still find a way to screw the team  though 

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The team is poorly assembled. Virat being the captain must take on some responsibility for poor team selections.Captaincy is also poor.You don't scream on players and get frustrated on fielding mistakes of cricketers.He himself has dropped so many catches in slip.He should be the last one to complain about dropped catches.He is a total kiddo - very impatient, very hot headed, too full of himself, bad at strategies before auctions.Have to say though that he is definitely the best performing batsman this IPL.However, too many negatives for other aspects of being as important person in think tank.

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31 minutes ago, velu said:

one of the main problem is rcb lacks a balanced team and top heavy .. with a player like rahul , they can atleast solve their top heavy problem by shuffling their top heavy batting order

kohli will still find a way to screw the team  though 

Seeing the way Virat is treating him in T20i, Test and ODI formats, Rahul would prefer to play for 11 crores for Punjab than play for 12 crores fro RCB. Why play under a captain who is killing the career of such a performing player in all forms. In fact Rahul is likely to get raise when he gets retained before next auctions.Atleast Sehawag and Ashwin are giving him the right spot and right player management.

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TBH RCB has fragile inexperienced middle order specially after AB gets out no 5,6,7 positions struggle to score runs. I guess they need to change the batting order. AB should bat no 6 with tailender and perform finishers role. Opposition teams know only 1st four wickets to be taken of RCB to win the match. Promote a inexperience batsmen at no4; and 5 to play with Kohli. They also learn to absorb pressure. Also Im not happy about bowling changes Kohli does. He needs more versatile bowlers. Bowling costed them last two games. Chahal should bring in inside power play to get more wickets.

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53 minutes ago, Shunya said:

Its ok, lets just move on with Kohli the captain. Give AB a shot while he is there. So far it looks like RCB is content with playing superstar XI and raking in moolah without any accountability. Been like this for years now.

Treating this more like a business model, which IPL actually is. Make profit, no matter cup is won or not as long as franchisees's financial objectives are met?

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2 hours ago, Shunya said:

Its ok, lets just move on with Kohli the captain. Give AB a shot while he is there. So far it looks like RCB is content with playing superstar XI and raking in moolah without any accountability. Been like this for years now.

if that was the case, they would not have let go Gayle that easily.

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2 hours ago, Straight Drive said:

Treating this more like a business model, which IPL actually is. Make profit, no matter cup is won or not as long as franchisees's financial objectives are met?

Well if your first objective is out of reach, obviously as a business owner you will atleast try to achieve 2nd objective. No?

 

In any case, Kohli has been captaining RCB since 6 years now. They have got so many good/great players in these 6 years and still could not achieve their primary objective. Its time to move on from Kohli if this season is gone too, but it seems impossible with the brand value he brings.

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3 minutes ago, Shunya said:

Well if your first objective is out of reach, obviously as a business owner you will atleast try to achieve 2nd objective. No?

 

In any case, Kohli has been captaining RCB since 6 years now. They have got so many good/great players in these 6 years and still could not achieve their primary objective. Its time to move on from Kohli if this season is gone too, but it seems impossible with the brand value he brings.

even CSK has not won after 2011.

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Kohli's captaincy is not the only reason

Coaching staff - i mean what are they doing....they sit at auction table 

Talent scouts- hai bhi kya 

 

for years they knw they have kohli n abdv and they have to make team around them and they play at chinnaswamy which means 7 games on patta + wankhade + mohali so they play almost 9-10 games on patta so bowlers had to be picked acc to that 

 

Eg aniket.c has been picked in last 2 season but he is not a LOI bowler and u pick for chinnaswamy :facepalm:Test match men aus ke against khilana tha waha to khialaya nhin

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13 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

if that was the case, they would not have let go Gayle that easily.

Unko dekh ke to aisa hi lagta hai bhai ke they are satisfied with stars playing in their team regardless of result. One less in Gayle makes no difference to the brand value. 

Immense amount of support from fans despite not winning anything. That says there is no accountability wrt performance/leadership.

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