SRT100 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Here is a controversial pick. The way Dhawan has been performing. I could see Pant taking over his opening position. India maintain the left and right hand combination. I think Dhawan is finished as an international cricketer. It allows for the same team too. Hitman Pant Kohli Rayudu Jedhav Pandya Dhoni Kuldeep Shami Chalal Bumrah flamy 1 Link to comment
Sooda Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Rayudu is in the squad, so should not be in the poll Kartik SHOULD be in the squad, done juussst about enough and it's too late to try Pant now, instead DK should have been given a long run to hone his finishing skills until the WC Of the rest, I'd choose Rahul because he can open, again it's form depending and he needs to be given all matches to find some... I don't think he should have played T20 let him play ODIs only and bat himself into form rather than have to go hammer at everything Link to comment
flamy Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Rayudu is already a lock. I'd pick Shankar ahead of Rahul right now because of form. Pant offers lefty, but Karthik has experience finishing, tough one. Laaloo 1 Link to comment
Clarke Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 My gut feeling says Shankar. Forget the Nihadas final, scoring 10+ RPO from get go is extremely difficult & not even the primary criterion for odi middle order. He showed a good range of shots & some solidity in Aus-NZ and is my pick for #4. Pant is also a good stroke player and should replace Dhoni some time, batting position undecided. Rahul is a back up opener, not middle order. DK is better suited for T20. Rayudu will most likely continue being #4 given that he has runs & backing. Debating #3 is a waste of time :) Link to comment
bahubali Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 16 hours ago, zen said: Vote and discuss. Poll closes on Mar 1st. Biggest chutiyapa is selectors tried Karthik for entire year in odis and just before start of the WC they dropped him. If they don't have trust in his ability why dint they tried youngster from an year back. Laaloo, The Dark Horse and beetle 3 Link to comment
GautiMaan Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Will go for Rahul and Pant as atleast they seem to have the X factor. Utility players like Jhadav,Rayudu,DK etc may win games in T20/franchise cricket where moneyball concepts apply but for the national team you need the best bahubali 1 Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 None of these. Link to comment
Nikola Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Add NOTA option. velu 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 8 hours ago, SRT100 said: Here is a controversial pick. The way Dhawan has been performing. I could see Pant taking over his opening position. India maintain the left and right hand combination. I think Dhawan is finished as an international cricketer. It allows for the same team too. Hitman Pant Kohli Rayudu Jedhav Pandya Dhoni Kuldeep Shami Chalal Bumrah You could have Dhawan open with Pant. Move Tuktuk to 4. Rayudu goes out Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 If shankar is picked, i think he can be a surprise package for the team flamy 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, zen said: You could have Dhawan open with Pant. Move Tuktuk to 4. Rayudu goes out why wud u move rohit to 4 were he failed , rohit is best at open only and their is a reason he found success their n not in middle flamy 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 11 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: why wud u move rohit to 4 were he failed , rohit is best at open only and their is a reason he found success their n not in middle To try to optimize the PP .... he is a matured player now and can utilize his skills at different positions (he comes down the order in IPL too many times for e.g.) .... Dhawan has usually been opening Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, zen said: To try to optimize the PP .... he is a matured player now and can utilize his skills at different positions (he comes down the order in IPL too many times for e.g.) .... Dhawan has usually been opening Dhawan does that and rohit takes his time and once he is set no can damage more then him Someone like Sehwag use to do that , but what was the point as he use to throw it away after 30s ....rohit ends up making daddy hundreds . If an ODI team is made rohit will always get a nod ahead of sehwag Rohit game doesnt work in middle coz he enjoys new ball on bat, in middle he comes against old ball which affects his timing he doesnt like being dictated by situation so at open he has only situation to bat 50 overs, in middle he wud always be under diff situation His strike rotation isnt that gr8 also like kohli who therefore finds it easy Rohit also cuts n pulls well n way better then pant The slow start issue, he covers it like no one unlike rahane. IF a guy ends up making daddy 100s let him take time he is giving results in the end Lets not fix what aint broken coz grass looks greener on other side , Rohit has been great with opening and to think someone will do better is a huge benchmark itself. We have 3 match winners in batting, make rohit n kohli change there position they wont be as effective. Lets not even touch top 3 Edited February 16, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03 Link to comment
zen Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Rohit game doesnt work in middle coz If you are expecting Rohit to get big scores, he would be playing in the middle overs vs old ball anyways .... NOW, Rohit is Tuktuking early on, and if he survives, picks up his game later on in the middle overs (so he expects himself to score quickly later on in the middle overs) Edited February 16, 2019 by zen Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, zen said: If you are expecting Rohit to get big scores, he would be playing in the middle overs vs old ball anyways .... NOW, Rohit is Tuktuking early on, and if he survives, picks up his game later on in the middle overs (so he expects himself to score quickly later on in the middle overs) he will only score if he gets more balls ...if he comes in middle he wud get less balls na had he played in middle he wont have scored a single 200 He isnt even tuk tuking thaty much what we are saying out, he is generallly aronud 100 s/r and then picks like crazy and its fine. No one can change gears like him . We are talking about a guy who has been avg 50 every year in last 5-6 yrs, he may not give u quickfire 30-40 but the guy ends up making 150+ at a quicker rate and daddy 100s will win u more games n 30-40 quickfire starts Link to comment
jusarrived Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Pant obviously . I have been a huge fan of both pant and KL for years and believe these two could turn out be the most destructive opening pair in LOIs ever . At this point though pant is oozing with confidence and runs behind him , you have to play him . KL though , I am surprised he’s even picked ..makes no sense . He needs a longer break and should be spending more time in domestic . Hes spent most of his time on bench even when he was in the ODI squad , I just don’t get the thought process . Jimmy Cliff 1 Link to comment
jusarrived Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, zen said: If you are expecting Rohit to get big scores, he would be playing in the middle overs vs old ball anyways .... NOW, Rohit is Tuktuking early on, and if he survives, picks up his game later on in the middle overs (so he expects himself to score quickly later on in the middle overs) Rohit takes time to get his feet moving , there is no team startergy of him playing slowly it’s just his limitation . It’s not the big shots , but he will struggle rotating strike in middle overs if hes not played 50-60 balls . He will suck even more if he comes down the order . He can bat at 6 though where he has to just hit out . Link to comment
jusarrived Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 31 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: Dhawan does that and rohit takes his time and once he is set no can damage more then him Someone like Sehwag use to do that , but what was the point as he use to throw it away after 30s ....rohit ends up making daddy hundreds . If an ODI team is made rohit will always get a nod ahead of sehwag Rohit game doesnt work in middle coz he enjoys new ball on bat, in middle he comes against old ball which affects his timing he doesnt like being dictated by situation so at open he has only situation to bat 50 overs, in middle he wud always be under diff situation His strike rotation isnt that gr8 also like kohli who therefore finds it easy Rohit also cuts n pulls well n way better then pant The slow start issue, he covers it like no one unlike rahane. IF a guy ends up making daddy 100s let him take time he is giving results in the end Lets not fix what aint broken coz grass looks greener on other side , Rohit has been great with opening and to think someone will do better is a huge benchmark itself. We have 3 match winners in batting, make rohit n kohli change there position they wont be as effective. Lets not even touch top 3 You can go check the stats . Am fairly sure the impact a quick 35 from Viru had is much more than Rohits 60-70 . India’s win percentage is more or less the same Rohit scores a 100 or a zero . He’s a zero impact player . Link to comment
maniac Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 DK is the only guy who is capable of scoring at 150+ sr in the death and he is the first one to face the axe. Great!!! Looks like there is a policy flamy 1 Link to comment
zen Posted February 16, 2019 Author Share Posted February 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: he will only score if he gets more balls ...if he comes in middle he wud get less balls na had he played in middle he wont have scored a single 200 The idea is for Team Ind to benefit. Not just Rohit, who has to make good use of the balls he play on a relatively consistent basis vs strong teams .... For e.g. Ind should go at least at +1 RR of par score in PP. So if the par score is 300 (RPO 6), Ind should go at 7 RPO in first 10 to be 70 or more. Currently, we would be at 45-50 Quote He isnt even tuk tuking thaty much what we are saying out, he is generallly aronud 100 s/r and then picks like crazy and its fine. No one can change gears like him . We are talking about a guy who has been avg 50 every year in last 5-6 yrs, he may not give u quickfire 30-40 but the guy ends up making 150+ at a quicker rate and daddy 100s will win u more games n 30-40 quickfire starts This is not saying that Ind is bad with Tuk Tuk Sharma opening. If he is in good hitting form, he can be utilized to open as well .... Or if the par score is not high If the par score is high, we could have to optimize by getting more runs early on and having a relatively better and mature option at #4. If Dhawan batted in the middle, he could be utilized below too Players like Pant are deadly. If they fire early on, they will take the game away from the other team. If they fail, the team still has Kohli, Rohit, Dhoni to play out the overs We have to keep an open mind. Various strategies can be tried out depending upon the form of players Link to comment
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