chewy Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alam_dar said: I believe that despite all these things, the FINAL victory went to India. India very successfully destroyed the legitimacy of the Kashmir resistance for liberation by linking it to Hafiz Saeed. Whole world turned a lot against Pakistan and Pakistani supported Jihadists after this incident, and thus the final victory still belonged to India. Pakistan was under a very huge pressure this time. And if any such attack once again happens in Kashmir, then Pakistan will get even more pressure and I don't think it would be able to resist so much pressure. Supporting the Jihadist outfits is not in interest of Pakistan. Fighting for Kashmir is not in the interest of the people of the region. It seems to me that present Pakistani government want to solve Kashmir problem with talks (like in Musharraf era), but this time Indian Government of BJP is not ready and they are eyeing on taking control of whole Kashmir by power like Israel did in Golan and other parts of Palestine. nice finish at the end, trying to compare with Israel...this is nothing like Isreal situation. Pakistanis illegally invaded Indian territory and now occupying a small part of it and Pak army have been actively attacking civilian and Indian forces in Kashmir for decades. Stop talking out of your backside. India already split your country into half in 1971, etched into every pakistani's memory as an epic humiliation. That's when india was malnourished socalist state, if the will is there this time pak can be easily be fragmented. But priorities for BJP are economic and social development. Unlike pakistan, who are permantenly teetering on bankruptcy, already growth is slower than fecking Maldives Vilander, Real McCoy, Gollum and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 23 minutes ago, Alam_dar said: It seems to me that present Pakistani government want to solve Kashmir problem with talks (like in Musharraf era), but this time Indian Government of BJP is not ready and they are eyeing on taking control of whole Kashmir by power like Israel did in Golan and other parts of Palestine. Pretty hard to maintain the disguise huh? You fought valiantly sir, but even the best undercover agents get their cover blown. Real McCoy and chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Asim said: Now I'd strongly suggest, someone plz count IAF Piolets too Asim, a soldier attaining martyrdom for his motherland is considered his noble luck. We have never disowned our martyrs. We love them, idolize them. Compare that to Pakistan army which even disowned its soldiers stranded hungry, thirsty and wounded on Kargil saying they were Kashmiri mujahiddin and then didn't even take their deadbodies back as it increase causality count. Real McCoy, beetle, Clarke and 6 others 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) OK so all my earlier posts have been deleted. Apologize to fellow ICFers for the language used, but can't say the moron didn't have it coming his way. No regrets from my side but I'll desist from using such language here. Edited April 5, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Pakistanis as so shameless. They will disrespect the brave ones who lay down their lives for them. No wonder they lose their wars. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beetle Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) Waisay... How long does it take to count the few fighter planes their air force has? The same time that it takes to rebuild the bombed buildings. US must be so embarrassed to see their veteran ace plane being downed by an old rickety russian plane..... How much was ndtv paid to carry this news...? Nothing,they will pay to write anti India news. Kuch bhi !! Edited April 5, 2019 by beetle chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pak_cric Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 .... tell us something we didn’ know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Dg ispr said 2 jets downed 3 iaf pilots arrested. Then changed it to 1 jet and 1 iaf pilot. The other one was a f16 two seat trainer. Iaf has electronic signature. Given to US. This is unnamed source story is worthless probaganda sorry. Move on everyone. chewy, dial_100, FischerTal and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lannister Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 It's a matter of pride for US military, as it was one of their advanced jets which was claimed to be downed by Mig-21. Ofcourse they would seek to verify if it's indeed true. The whole episode was just cringe-worthy, the way the ruling party made a mess of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alam_dar Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, chewy said: Stop talking out of your backside. Dear friend, everyone is allowed to talk what he likes. It is known as difference of opinion. This is my honest opinion that whatever is the Excuse, but present BJP government want to control whole of Kashmiri population through use of force. You have to look into my world. For me, the better interest of India lies in becoming shinning sun of Secularism in the region. And every one worships the rising sun. Kashmiri people should themselves wish to join India due to its progress. It will be much better in interests of India than just taking control through use of power. 2 hours ago, Gollum said: Pretty hard to maintain the disguise huh? You fought valiantly sir, but even the best undercover agents get their cover blown. You may label me Pakistan's agent when I don't agree with you. But for sure neither I am an agent of Pakistan, nor I am agent of India, but I have my own preferences where I value human life and human rights much above any religion or nationality. Thus, in present scenario, my preference is the wish of the Kashmiri people i.e. to become free from both India and Pakistan. But the situation becomes complex while many Kashmiris have become Islamic Jihadists and they did unjustice to the Kashmiri Brahmins. My sympathies thus lie more with Kashmiri Brahmins than the Kashmiri majority Muslim population, and thus a solution should be found where Jihadists could not harm the minorities. Edited April 5, 2019 by Alam_dar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 hours ago, rageaddict said: More embarrassment coming for Bharat after the bogus claim of bombing 300 Jihadis. Offcourse nobody can call out the Government and IAF over spouting lies as there is a threat of being labelled a Deshdrohi and Pakistani lover by the Patriots. where did you see that claim of 300? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 This is just internet warfare, a new form of soft warfare. The Indian forces have got their priorities right, they will respond to any terror attacks since it's their duty to do so even if Pakistanis believe that their army is invincible and their country is safest in the world. Alam_dar and Gollum 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 By the way, this new internet warfare should remain innoccous right? I hope our folks don't waste their time by engaging with these folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 If not for Omble, the world would not have believed .. dial_100 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda-esque Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Number said: Asim, a soldier attaining martyrdom for his motherland is considered his noble luck. We have never disowned our martyrs. We love them, idolize them. Compare that to Pakistan army which even disowned its soldiers stranded hungry, thirsty and wounded on Kargil saying they were Kashmiri mujahiddin and then didn't even take their deadbodies back as it increase causality count. Well said.Unfortunately , Barbarians don't understand that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
test fan Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 For America, war is a multi-trillion dollar business & the F16 is a global brand. There is no way the US can ever admit that a MIG 21 shot down an F16. It will bury the brand for ever & will raise questions on other US weapon systems. Embarrassing for US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sukhoi Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Pak_cric said: .... tell us something we didn’ know. OSAMA was not in PAKISTAN the whole world knows about it LET is banned in UN as TERRORIST Organization, the whole world knows about it There are 3 PILOTS IN PAKISTAN CUSTODY, 2 PILOTS NOW >>>>>>>> T BREAK >>>>> 1 PILOT IN CUSTODY The WHEATHER IS BAD UNABLE TO TAKE ANY JOURNALIST TO BALLAKOT SITE TRANSIT FLIGHT STILL BANNED ON PAKISTANI AIR SPACE BALLAKOT SATELLITE IMAGES ARE AVAILABLE AFTER ONE MONTH AS BALLAKOT IS ON ANOTHER PLANET NO ONE CAN REACH THERE ONLY SATELLITE IMAGES CAN BE PROVIDED PEACE JUSTURE chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Debunking. Pak did not use F-16 bought from US. But they bought 13 A and B models f16 from Jordan right ? was one of those used then ? Have Proof Pakistani F-16 Shot Down, Says Air Force; Refutes US Journal Report The report comes days before voting starts for the April-May national election. Prime Minister Narendra Modi and other top BJP leaders have been accused by the opposition of using the Balakot air strike, which was in response to the February 14 Pulwama terror attack, in their campaign speeches. All India | Reported by Vishnu Som | Updated: April 05, 2019 19:33 IST by Taboola Sponsored Links Sponsored Denise Richards Just Turned 48, Try Not To Smile When You See Her Today (FunStoryz) Play this Game for 1 Minute and see why everyone is addicted (Desert Order) SHARE EMAIL PRINT COMMENTS According to Foreign Policy magazine, Pak invited US to physically count its F-16 planes. NEW DELHI: The Indian Air Force today said it had proof that a Pakistani F-16 fighter jet was shot down in the February dogfight, as American news publication Foreign Policy contradicted India quoting unnamed US defence officials. "Two senior US defense officials with direct knowledge of the situation told Foreign Policy that U.S. personnel recently counted Islamabad's F-16s and found none missing," the publication says in a report published on Thursday. In a statement, the Air Force said: "The Indian Forces have confirmed sighting ejections at two different places on that day. The two sightings were at places separated by at least 8-10 km. One was an IAF MiG 21 Bison and other a PAF aircraft. Electronic signatures gathered by us indicate that the PAF aircraft was a F-16." The government had said that in an aerial duel on February 27 - a day after India sent fighter jets to Pakistan's Balakot to strike a terror training camp - Indian Air Force pilot Abhinandan Varthaman had engaged with one of the Pakistani fighter jets that tried to target Indian military facilities and shot it down before he was hit and forced to eject. Abhinandan Varthaman landed across the Line of Control and was in Pakistani custody for three days before he was returned to India amid attempts to de-escalate the crisis between the two sides. The Air Force said radio intercepts proved that two pilots had ejected, not just one. Officers had on February 28 displayed pieces of the AMRAAM missile, fired by a Pakistani F-16, as evidence. But that, by itself, does not offer any clues on whether Abhinandan Varthaman had shot down a Pakistan Air Force F-16, as has been repeatedly claimed by the government and the IAF. Journalists were shown the radar tracks of the air battle that took place across the LoC near Jhangar, which lies between Rajouri and Nowshera. The radar tracks recorded by airborne warning and control aircraft show the presence of an F-16 aircraft in the vicinity of Wing Commander Abhinandan Varthaman's MiG-21 Bison. In the very next frame of the AWACS picture, eight seconds later, the symbol for the PAF F-16 aircraft is missing indicating what IAF sources say is a shootdown of the jet. IAF controllers monitoring the air battle on the AWACS aircraft were also monitoring the radio communication between pilots in the Pakistan F-16 formation. They say communication from one F-16 aircraft abruptly ended which they believe is further confirmation that one Pakistan Air Force jet did not return. However, journalists were not showcased a recording of the audio communication that was taking place on security grounds. According to the Foreign Policy magazine, Pakistan invited the United States to physically count its F-16 planes after the incident as part of an end-user agreement signed when the foreign military sale was finalized. "A US count of Pakistan's F-16 fleet has found that all the jets are present and accounted for, a direct contradiction to India's claim that it shot down one of the fighter jets during a February clash," Lara Seligman of the magazine reported. Clarke and chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Lannister said: It's a matter of pride for US military, as it was one of their advanced jets which was claimed to be downed by Mig-21. Ofcourse they would seek to verify if it's indeed true. The whole episode was just cringe-worthy, the way the ruling party made a mess of it. You can’t fake electronic signatures. Keep whining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Social media has made adults childish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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