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Just now, zen said:

I hope Ind does not try to play safe cricket and reach 300 on such pitches thinking that bowling will bail it out. Bowlers need par scores to be effective and play under relatively less pressure 

Let us see England have someone like Stokes who can bat at no.4 and bowl a few

 

Their opening bowler Woakes is a very good batsman

 

Their main spinner Ali can smack the ball and hit 100s

 

we have Pandya,Jadhav,Shankar and Jadeja

 

They have Butler and Bairstow

 

we have DK and Dhoni

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3 minutes ago, maniac said:

Let us see England have someone like Stokes who can bat at no.4 and bowl a few

 

Their opening bowler Woakes is a very good batsman

 

Their main spinner Ali can smack the ball and hit 100s

 

we have Pandya,Jadhav,Shankar and Jadeja

 

They have Butler and Bairstow

 

we have DK and Dhoni

Doesn’t matter. To win, you have to play well with what you have. We cannot go to a race with a family sedan and give excuses on why we cannot drive fast enough. In that case, we should not be in the race 

 

And the reason why poor teams lose, good ones win. If we are a good team, we have to play like one 

 

Take what benefits Rohit out of your mind for a change! 

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16 minutes ago, zen said:

I hope Ind does not try to play safe cricket and reach 300 on such pitches thinking that bowling will bail it out. Bowlers need par scores to be effective and play under relatively less pressure 

I'm fairly confident of our bowling, it's the batting which worries me especially our strategy to go for big hitting only during the death or last 10 overs. Eng played superbly in the middle overs, rotated the strike, hit all around without being uncomfortable when they lost set batsmen. Would be delighted to be proven wrong if our ship sails smoothly even when we'd be 140/3 at 25 overs with our top 3 back in the pavilion. Our batsmen couldn't afford tuk-tuk on these tracks. 

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4 minutes ago, Turning_track said:

I'm fairly confident of our bowling, it's the batting which worries me especially our strategy to go for big hitting only during the death or last 10 overs. Eng played superbly in the middle overs, rotated the strike, hit all around without being uncomfortable when they lost set batsmen. Would be delighted to be proven wrong if our ship sails smoothly even when we'd be 140/3 at 25 overs with our top 3 back in the pavilion. Our batsmen couldn't afford tuk-tuk on these tracks. 

Exactly, there is no reason to not score at the required RR if you play smart cricket. The culprit here is black and white thinking where either you tuk-tuk or hit, and when playing aggressively means slogging only and getting out 

 

Playing aggressively means actively looking for runs. Not missing out on runs by using gaps, getting the bad balls away, smartly creating opportunities if the bowlers are bowling well, etc 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, MechEng said:

Pakistan missing Amir badly here. Bairstow best odi batsman in the world

 

They need some good chuckers like actor and ajmal ,junaid chucks but still remains harmless.Throw in a ball eater as well,then the talunts will shine again.

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6 hours ago, Jimmy Cliff said:

Man these guys are a decade ahead of us when it comes to ODI batting :((.

I have said it before but just to reiterate, Ind doesn't have the talent to match as well, so we should sit back and admire the skills. Also this series as a microcosm for the WC, should make Virat rethink about certain players in his squad , that's if he cares.

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15 minutes ago, Norman said:

Lol when? :giggle:

He is either a closet pakistani/liberandus/muslim. His gig is to go around accusing others as pakistains and do a hit and run here and there. He wasnt here when the pulwama terror attacks happened. No comment from him. Its high time that his fans @Laaloo and others notice this about him. He also trollvoted the guy he was replying to. Seems he is that much of a shaheen afridi fan for him to do that :giggle:

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51 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

I have said it before but just to reiterate, Ind doesn't have the talent to match as well, so we should sit back and admire the skills. Also this series as a microcosm for the WC, should make Virat rethink about certain players in his squad , that's if he cares.

Maybe but I don't think the gulf between the 2 batting line-ups would be this huge if our TM didn't have a fetish for has beens/ hacks/ journeymen. 

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If Pak can smash 350+ in consecutive matches then boy we are in for a runfest at the WC lol (weather conditions permitting). Indians will be licking their lips.

 

India is best prepared for these phattas by selecting three spinners.

 

Eng are batting like beasts now..but wait until the WC starts..they will choke in the knockout stages...again.

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16 hours ago, Norman said:

Lol when? :giggle:

He averages 26 in ODIs even after these horror series. Averages 23 vs SA in ODIs and 26 in tests. How is he not doing well for such a young kid who is only 19? Just because we didnt have the balls to give our under 19 a chance?

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1 hour ago, CSK Fan said:

He averages 26 in ODIs even after these horror series. Averages 23 vs SA in ODIs and 26 in tests. How is he not doing well for such a young kid who is only 19? Just because we didnt have the balls to give our under 19 a chance?

First of all, our U-19 pacers were injured somtime afetr the WC even if we did want to fast-track them.

 

In general, I'm not a fan of fast-tracking bowlers directly from age cricket level. About 2 full domestic seasons would be ideal. One can tell that Shaheen and Hasnain are unfit (fielding-wise) and also not used to handling pressure. Shaheen has looked toothless for sometime now. Has not earne to move the ball.

 

Sure he had a good series in SA on helpful pitches, but do you feel he is ready to be the spearhead of this Pak attack with Hasan Ali? Good luck to Pak if that's the route they want to take.

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10 hours ago, CSK Fan said:

He averages 26 in ODIs even after these horror series. Averages 23 vs SA in ODIs and 26 in tests. How is he not doing well for such a young kid who is only 19? Just because we didnt have the balls to give our under 19 a chance?

He averages 26 because he played that stat padding series against Zimbabwe c in 2018. And don't read too much into his average in SAF , as they are the most seam friendly wickets in the world. He got smacked around whenever he's played in helpless conditions like Asia cup in UAE , and here again in England. 

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On 5/16/2019 at 10:10 AM, Norman said:

He averages 26 because he played that stat padding series against Zimbabwe c in 2018. And don't read too much into his average in SAF , as they are the most seam friendly wickets in the world. He got smacked around whenever he's played in helpless conditions like Asia cup in UAE , and here again in England. 

Afridi hasn't played against Zimbabwe. He has done relatively well in the UAE. Has two 4 wicket hauls against NZ if I remember correctly.

This England series has been horrific for him so far. The sharpness he had over Hasan, Faheem and company seems to have vanished.

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