nitinbwj Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Pollack said: England is bad batting side? Hacks vs Quality Link to comment
Cricketics Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, R!TTER said: 2 notches below MS. What are you talking about, JB has no record to speak of in WC atm. Starc is better than Mcgrath, Bond & Garner! He ended NZ WC in one over with the wicket of BMac & nearly won them an improbably game in NZ with his fast lightning bolt in-swingers, defending just 150 odd. Records type bowling analysis [change type] View career summary [change view] Trophy World Cup Ordered by default (ascending) Return to query menu Cleared query menu Career averages Span Mat Inns Overs Mdns Runs Wkts BBI Ave Econ SR 4 5 unfiltered 2010-2019 82 82 691.3 38 3456 164 6/28 21.07 4.99 25.2 11 6 Profile filtered 2015-2019 15 15 128.3 7 571 41 6/28 13.92 4.44 18.8 3 2 Well this is Bumrahs first World Cup. We are talking about overall performance and overall Bumrah is good as Starc in terms of bowling and consistency. Nothing to take away from Starc who has performed consistently over two World Cup. Link to comment
Stuge Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, rkt.india said: Bumrah is still a notch below Starc. Bumrah pani barta hai starc ke samne ..maan gaye hum log . Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 11 minutes ago, bowl_out said: A bowling line up with Starc, Bumrah and Archer would be legendary Even better: Roberts, Holding, Croft, Garner Then Roberts, Holding, Garner, Marshall Later became Marshall, Holding, Bishop, Walsh with Ambrose knocking the door. Early 90s had Ambrose, Bishop, Walsh, Patterson...last one being the most menacing of them all (words of stalwarts like Gooch, Crowe, Border) and a gun ODI quick. Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 minute ago, sergio04 said: Bumrah is a run stopping bowler and gets his most of wickets in death over While Mitchell starc is a genuine wicket taker bowler. Back to back 2 great wc. We played him extremely well and he bowls bad balls under pressure. Just don’t give him early wickets. Runs don’t matter initially. He was hammered by Kohli and Dhoni in the death overs. Link to comment
nitinbwj Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Doesn't matter. Wickets doesn't always paint full picture. Bumrah has bowled as well and done consistently. Wicket columns are overrated these days. Like Behrendoff has more wickets today than Starc, doesn't mean he bowled better than Starc. Shami they other day came up and cleaned up the last three, does he become better than Bumrah overall? You have to see how many times Bumrah has changed the game when he has been brought back. That Afghanistan game would have been lost if not for the double strike of Bumrah in his comeback spell. He bowled 7 good yorkers..7 in that match. Without those yorkers, Afghanistan would have gotten over the line. He bowls yorkers at will. Starc just bowled one. Link to comment
Gollum Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 17 minutes ago, Cricketics said: No one doubted him. But to call him better than Bumrah is basically waste of discussion. Bumrah and Starc are on par at same level. What Starc did today, Bumrah has been doing regularly too. And what Starc did in 2015 WC, Bumrah hasn't come close and might never. Bumrah is indeed a great bowler but Starc will be in contention for being the greatest ODI fast bowler of all time alongside Garner, McGrath, Akram etc. SK_IH and manu4411 2 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Well this is Bumrahs first World Cup. We are talking about overall performance and overall Bumrah is good as Starc in terms of bowling and consistency. Nothing to take away from Starc who has performed consistently over two World Cup. You said Bumrah done it as well, which isn't true so far as the WC is concerned & as for his first WC - Starc was MoS last time. I doubt Bumrah can replicate that. Edited June 25, 2019 by R!TTER manu4411 1 Link to comment
sergio04 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Bumrah will flop in semi vs Nz Link to comment
mishra Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) Starc has fresh legs . Bhumrah is coming via IPL. Edited June 25, 2019 by mishra Link to comment
MCcricket Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Both are different bowlers, for me Bumrah is more skillful and versatile, Starc is a slingy left armer and kinda a bit rhythm bowler. Think Bumrah is a s good, what he brings to the table is rare, rarer then Starc. Cricketics 1 Link to comment
Stuge Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, rkt.india said: Many here were ruling out Starc. you said everyone . Edited June 25, 2019 by Stuge Link to comment
philcric Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Nobody: rkt: Starc top wicket taker. Proving everyone wrong. Everyone: Stuge, Mosher, SK_IH and 3 others 6 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted June 26, 2019 Author Share Posted June 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Stuge said: you said everyone . Everyone who doubted him. Link to comment
R!TTER Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 What about Finch? Lots of "experts" were tooting their own horn & calling him a hack! Where are they now? Should we start a thread about every poster's failed predictions Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Best ODI bowler ever. Does not play useless ODIs else could well have been at 300+ ODI wickets by now. Has bowled Aus to a win vs Pak, WI and now Eng nearly on his own in this WC. His WC record already makes him the best ever performer across all world cups. Bumrah IMO is at par with him.Does not pick as many wickets because our other bowlers are picking wickets from the other end. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 For me Starc is speed demon of this age,just has an aura around him which slightly differentiates him from Bumrah(Bumrah two has an aura which greats of this game have)who himself is the Emperor among other speed merchants But i think ,left armers do have that deception element with them ,which let them score above regular pacers,this is my look Link to comment
helperononline Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) He is better against left handers only Edited June 26, 2019 by helperononline Link to comment
SK_IH Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, Suhaan said: For me Starc is speed demon of this age,just has an aura around him which slightly differentiates him from Bumrah(Bumrah two has an aura which greats of this game have)who himself is the Emperor among other speed merchants But i think ,left armers do have that deception element with them ,which let them score above regular pacers,this is my look Good only for LOIs though, in test cricket he isn't that consistent. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, SK_IH said: Good only for LOIs though, in test cricket he isn't that consistent. Yeah , obviously,he just wakes himself up in icc wcs and more so in one dayers Link to comment
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