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Kohli-Shastri Co. Blunder Watch Thread Post 2019WC

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Agree to this thread completely.  Shikhar's record in T20I is for everyone to see.  Rahul is our best bat in T20 & he gets benched. Virat's performance since last WT20 have been poor.  Most of our players lack innovative shots to compensate for lack of power.  On good batting pitches we will be outgunned with this squad.  At most we can chase 170 & even less in case of a KO.  ENG Aus NZ r out of our reach in this format. 

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we all know that they are going to make blunders after blunders because they are pretending to sleep for their own selfish motives.That being the case what is the  purpose  of such threads other than consuming valuable efforts of us fans?? It is high time fans across the nation  as a whole react sharply and so intensely.

For a start, reach out to these frauds' social media accounts in bulk, even resort to foul mouthing them so badly and make media publish the comments  so that  the feelings of the ordinary fans  be understood by past players & other  concerned people & eventually by these morons themselves.  Such constructive methods are the need of the hour.

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5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

before reading my post u thought u had a chance against a legend, world best coach cum cheerleader Shastri 

on the contrary was wondering how dumb does one have to be to replace shastri 

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Nice thread 

 

Saini not in tests 

playing himself Rohit and Shikha’s in t20 when the need is to play Rahul Agarwal and gill/ Rituraj 

iyer not given chance but Jadeja in 11 - 6 bowlers lol on a bowling pitch to avoid chances to youngsters 

sending pant at 4 with manifesto to attack and he got out first ball - they will count against him ( big conspiracy at play here I feel ) 

 

it’s geared like a mafia run show . Don brat is not allowing young batters in team , piling on dead bodies in name of sacrifices and is so self inflicted in his own myth , he doesn’t take criticism at all . Senior don dhongi holds veto power and is used as muscle inspite of loosing 90 percent mental faculties 

 

youngsters kept out

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Pant is not a finisher. I don't think he is a no 4 batsman either. No 4 needs to be a solid batsman who can rotate strike, go from ball 1 in few rare instances and stop collapse curbing down stroke making. This is too much for most Indian batsmen today who are most single dimensional. Hence the no 4 connundrum.

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14 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Pant is not a finisher. I don't think he is a no 4 batsman either. No 4 needs to be a solid batsman who can rotate strike, go from ball 1 in few rare instances and stop collapse curbing down stroke making. This is too much for most Indian batsmen today who are most single dimensional. Hence the no 4 connundrum.

Pant is not one dimensional...as of he suffers from shot selection issue which most youngsters do at star of their career specially the one who has range of shots. No.4 problem is becoz we didnt give players enough game to knw they are good or bad. Even if they are bad 2-3 chances  cant decide that . 

 

Also no.4 doesnt only need to be solid he also needs to have a gear to take the team from 10/2 to 300+ easily . This going for solid has made us go for players like rahane, rayudu who they beilve cud grind out 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Pant is not one dimensional...as of he suffers from shot selection issue which most youngsters do at star of their career specially the one who has range of shots. No.4 problem is becoz we didnt give players enough game to knw they are good or bad. Even if they are bad 2-3 chances  cant decide that . 

Most of the times the shots he play are on but reckless given the match situation which proves he cannot hold back his natural instinct to attack. Like Sehwag he will be successful in tests where he can slow down a bit but not very much. He will falter when required to play Dhoni kinda innings.

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2 minutes ago, -Robin- said:

Change the thread title to Never ending thread because these two will give many chances to post in this thread in every tournament or series lol

i knw......i wanted to add from 2019-2023 Wc but if kohli looses in one more World tournament which he will ....he might loose LOI captaincy 

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2 minutes ago, Pollack said:

Most of the times the shots he play are on but reckless given the match situation which proves he cannot hold back his natural instinct to attack. Like Sehwag he will be successful in tests where he can slow down a bit but not very much. He will falter when required to play Dhoni kinda innings.

he ll only learn by failures .......he has shown he can play long innings which is important . Playing situation only comes with experience. This is why it is important to give youngsters 50+ around games before the Wc.....they ll see ups n lows and those lows will teach them most. Guys like yuvraj, rohit who also had range of shots became consistent after 5-7 yrs of international cricket 

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3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

ODis i doubt......dhawan has been excellent. He isnt a light benchmark that its easy to beat 

They can try him in T20s as openers than decide about ODIs. Most teams use T20s as experiment for ODIs except india.

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Just now, -Robin- said:

They can try him in T20s as openers than decide about ODIs. Most teams use T20s as experiment for ODIs except india.

He can bat in middle order

their are already many options for openers - mayank, shaw, gill, rahul........

We already dont have many middle order option, if start throwing these guys in opening we wont even have good option for middle order

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8 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

if pandey plays again today ahead of kl ,well i am pretty certain he would who am i kiddin:giggle: bewda and anushka ke pati ki jaagiir hai team india ki nai:giggle:

now even dropping him wud also look like mistake.....coz when u give someone a chance give them few games atleast or else ull go back to them thinking they werent given enough chances 

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4 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

now even dropping him wud also look like mistake.....coz when u give someone a chance give them few games atleast or else ull go back to them thinking they werent given enough chances 

yehi chance chance karte to world cup haar gaye ,is kaptaan ke chakkar me ,team fir bhi ni bani na hi no 4 mila.kaptaan sahab though has gotten more endorsements so i guess all is alright

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3 minutes ago, RAZPOR said:

yehi chance chance karte to world cup haar gaye ,is kaptaan ke chakkar me ,team fir bhi ni bani na hi no 4 mila.kaptaan sahab though has gotten more endorsements so i guess all is alright

Kaptaan pehle player hi galat choose krta hai

Right thing is to 1st find right players and give them ample opp

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5 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Kaptaan pehle player hi galat choose krta hai

Right thing is to 1st find right players and give them ample opp

wont happen under kaptaan kohli sahaaab,gotta wait for another 15 years for kaptaan to retire.

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12 hours ago, Lone Wolf said:

Agree to this thread completely.  Shikhar's record in T20I is for everyone to see.  Rahul is our best bat in T20 & he gets benched. Virat's performance since last WT20 have been poor.  Most of our players lack innovative shots to compensate for lack of power.  On good batting pitches we will be outgunned with this squad.  At most we can chase 170 & even less in case of a KO.  ENG Aus NZ r out of our reach in this format. 

Not Rahul , Gill will be best suited to Penang position , he can play 20 overs from 1 end just like Gambir . Other Adjustments I thought they need is Shreyas Iyer on Nimber 4 .  The last one not many people will agree but I reckon Dinesh Karthik will be very handy and compact batsmen  for t20 Innings .

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40 minutes ago, Arvind32 said:

Not Rahul , Gill will be best suited to Penang position , he can play 20 overs from 1 end just like Gambir . Other Adjustments I thought they need is Shreyas Iyer on Nimber 4 .  The last one not many people will agree but I reckon Dinesh Karthik will be very handy and compact batsmen  for t20 Innings .

rohit n kohli also bats by holding one end and then gill also will hold one end up so how are we doing anything diff . Even iyer at 4 has his limitation ....he is no abdv or yuvraj singh

Rahul place in t20 shudnt be even in question 

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1 hour ago, Arvind32 said:

Not Rahul , Gill will be best suited to Penang position , he can play 20 overs from 1 end just like Gambir . Other Adjustments I thought they need is Shreyas Iyer on Nimber 4 .  The last one not many people will agree but I reckon Dinesh Karthik will be very handy and compact batsmen  for t20 Innings .

Nitish Rana instead of Pandey I think.  Explosive option he is & Gill or Rahul both can open.  Current team is full of ****. 

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37 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

rohit n kohli also bats by holding one end and then gill also will hold one end up so how are we doing anything diff . Even iyer at 4 has his limitation ....he is no abdv or yuvraj singh

Rahul place in t20 shudnt be even in question 

I thought Gill and Rohit are quite handy batsmen they not just hold one end but also got  4 th gear to their batting as required . Other option if it does not work out will be of Mayank Agarwal , who is definitely a  t20 player.

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18 minutes ago, Lone Wolf said:

Nitish Rana instead of Pandey I think.  Explosive option he is & Gill or Rahul both can open.  Current team is full of ****. 

I am not sure bother that Virat is very liberal captain to give young stars  the chances . 

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3 hours ago, Arvind32 said:

I thought Gill and Rohit are quite handy batsmen they not just hold one end but also got  4 th gear to their batting as required . Other option if it does not work out will be of Mayank Agarwal , who is definitely a  t20 player.

yea but they all go in 4th n 5th gear towards the end ........gill n kohli cant do the damage what rohit can do 

Mayank hasnt been gr8 in IPL

Shaw is a good option....i knw he is banned but he ll come back, Rahul is another option who i feel can bat at 4 as well 

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On 8/4/2019 at 3:00 AM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Lets keep a count on the number of blunders they do which we can visit post another Wc disappointment ...

This would include Selections mainly as i dont wanna include much of on-field tactics (coz i beileve those also involves execution part) but still we ll add up those strategies which wud be foolish on Diff level 

 

Starting With Ind-WI LOI series 

  1. To start with Kohli going for LOI series has basically taken one spot for no reason which cud have been given to a youngster like Gill ....now iyer, rahul cant even get a spot in XI
  2. Selection inconsistencies  - why am i putting this on captain as well coz its his vision as well and he is the one with impatience problem
  • Gill goes on NZ tour plays 2 games ...gets dropped in Aus series
  • Mayank goes in WC ...warm benches and gets dropped from Next series 
  • Rahul plays in Whole Wc and next series in t20 which is his most powerful format ...he gets dropped 
  • Dhawan, Jadeja, Manish pandey selection in t20 format which has been their weakest over so many years Baffling selection

 

     3. Baffling Final XI selections- Lets says for a second if selectors have messed up but what about playing XI 

  • Manish pandey, dhawan over KL rahul - This is the single reason that KL who has been going through techincal issue has been put under insecurity which doesnt help any players mindset 
  • Benching a leggie like Rahul chahar

 

 

4. KL Dropped again n Again- He gets dropped for Dhawan n Manish in t20 and now he gets dropped from ODI after making runs in world cup....he was no.4 now he isnt even inXI 

5. Saini dropped - Dropped for bhuvi who has been struggling to pick wkts with new ball 

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1 minute ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

4. KL Dropped again n Again- He gets dropped for Dhawan n Manish in t20 and now he gets dropped from ODI after making runs in world cup....he was no.4 now he isnt even inXI 

5. Saini dropped - Dropped for bhuvi who has been struggling to pick wkts with new ball 

Shreyas deserves his chances for no 4 spot. 

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8 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

1st rahul deserve ample of chance n has done nothing wrong to be dropped 

Kohli shouldn't be playing this series to start.

 

Rahul did well as a makeshift opener n he is now our backup. 

 

Shreyas has been doing well for a long time. Also, he unfairly lost his place too when he was doing well. We need both Rahul n Shreyas in our lineup. 

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11 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

Kohli shouldn't be playing this series to start.

yes he shud

11 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

 

Rahul did well as a makeshift opener n he is now our backup. 

He did well at 4 as well

did well against Sa n aus (cameo), also made against bangladesh in warmup

 

wasnt his mistake that dhawan got injured n he had to open....now he is left nowere

11 minutes ago, sarcastic said:

 

Shreyas has been doing well for a long time. Also, he unfairly lost his place too when he was doing well. We need both Rahul n Shreyas in our lineup. 

Rahul is 1st in line

If they want iyer cud get him for even jadhav since he can bowl a bit

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Kedhar Jadhav was deemed not good enough to play the World Cup semis,and instead two wicket keeper batsmen where played ahead of him now all of a sudden Jadhav is good enough when in the next world Cup he would be 38.

You just want to give up on this team because of how its managed,but following Indian cricket is a habit from childhood that is proving hard to break

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3 hours ago, GautiMaan said:

Kedhar Jadhav was deemed not good enough to play the World Cup semis,and instead two wicket keeper batsmen where played ahead of him now all of a sudden Jadhav is good enough when in the next world Cup he would be 38.

You just want to give up on this team because of how its managed,but following Indian cricket is a habit from childhood that is proving hard to break

true, their is no sense in what they do

Dk was termed as finisher by TM and he comes in At no.5 in WC....

Rahul becomes backup opener to middle order batsman every 2nd series 

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On 8/8/2019 at 8:59 PM, Ankit_sharma03 said:

4. KL Dropped again n Again- He gets dropped for Dhawan n Manish in t20 and now he gets dropped from ODI after making runs in world cup....he was no.4 now he isnt even inXI 

5. Saini dropped - Dropped for bhuvi who has been struggling to pick wkts with new ball 

6. Pant dropped for Saha- this one tops the list 

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Following are blunders made by Kohli-Shastri post wc:

1. Preference for flat track players like Agarwal and Rohit over Gill: On WI tour Gill scored more runs in 3 innings than what Agarwal could not score in 8 innings,while playing against Dukes ball known for lateral movement.Agarwal has not scored a first class century outside India in over 15 innings.Rohit is proven flat wicket player who failed outside India.Gill is all condition player who can play lateral movement,pace/bounce and spin with equal competence.

2. Persistence with Dhawan as t20 player.

3. Selection of KL Rahul for ODI squad as player with s/r below 85 is unacceptable.

4. Selection of Shivam Dube who averages 14.27 in 26 t20 matches,without scoring a fifty.

5. Dropping Pant over Saha.

Overall one pattern is clear,Kohli is only targeting Gill,who deserves place in all three formats.To block Gill,he will promote any other player.

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