maniac Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, Cricketics said: If it takes changing teams to win as many as 9 series in a row which is a record equalled with Ponting, then I am all for such captains. What a captain. Lol As much as I don’t blame Kohli for the chop and change during Kumble’s tenure, thoda zayaada nahi ho gaya? Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, maniac said: Kohli has been captain for 2 years...Kumble had a bigger stature than Kohli to override decision for a year and maybe 3-4 months Kohli was a rookie captain...so we need a more drill down analysis of this. Lol you hit the nail but that will not help the OP as that spoils the plan of dissing Kohli since now Kumble could be part of of the reason why so many changes were made :) As many as 25 changes in a row, daymn. Thanks for adding the spice Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, maniac said: Lol As much as I don’t blame Kohli for the chop and change during Kumble’s tenure, thoda zayaada nahi ho gaya? Thread he it I ajeeb aur garreb hai toh aise he aayega. Still can’t understand the purpose of the thread. OP basically sayinng we can’t play Rohit Sharma and must stick same team. I felt offended for you right away. Link to comment
maniac Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Cricketics said: Thread he it I ajeeb aur garreb hai toh aise he aayega. Still can’t understand the purpose of the thread. OP basically sayinng we can’t play Rohit Sharma and must stick same team. I felt offended for you right away. Nah I think he was blaming more of the dilli-ya Ari-dostana Link to comment
Cricketics Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Just now, maniac said: Nah I think he was blaming more of the dilli-ya Ari-dostana Dilli yaari for playing non delhites like Karun, Bhuvi, Jayant Yadav, Shami, Umesh, Rahane, Rahul to name a few along with only delhite in Dhawan all throughout Indian home season by making changes. Way to go. I doubt OP meant that though. OP’s criticism is mainly for not playing the same team over and over or at least twice. Link to comment
maniac Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Dilli yaari for playing non delhites like Karun, Bhuvi, Jayant Yadav, Shami, Umesh, Rahane, Rahul to name a few along with only delhite in Dhawan all throughout Indian home season by making changes. Way to go. I doubt OP meant that though. OP’s criticism is mainly for not playing the same team over and over or at least twice. Chill... it was in response to the snarky Rohit reference you sneaked in there lol..I am on the same page as you with regards to this. Gollum 1 Link to comment
Pollack Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Much better than same team nonsense by dhoni. Shows he is willing to try different combinations. Link to comment
Pollack Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Dilli yaari for playing non delhites like Karun, Bhuvi, Jayant Yadav, Shami, Umesh, Rahane, Rahul to name a few along with only delhite in Dhawan all throughout Indian home season by making changes. Way to go. I doubt OP meant that though. OP’s criticism is mainly for not playing the same team over and over or at least twice. Kohli favours his yarana club. Doesn't matter from which state they are. Buddies are preferred regardless of abilities. Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Pollack said: Much better than same team nonsense by dhoni. Shows he is willing to try different combinations. Not just the team, same batsmen at same position, same approach and same template for bowling even when team is losing each and every match. adi B and Pollack 1 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Some made sense , some didnt be rest assure there wud be changes in next game to so it ll be 34 test Link to comment
speedheat Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 (edited) Kohli has win percentage of 60 in testmatches still he changes few things here and there which only shows he understand the game cares about it unlike dhoni who never stressed his limited mind and fielded same team even after 4-0,drubbings, selection of dhawan who doesn't even have strong defence shot over technician like Rahul is baffling though. Edited January 8, 2018 by speedheat Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 2 hours ago, SK_IH said: what could be the reason ? horses for courses or is it some kind of conspiracy we can unearth lack of patience 29 minutes ago, Pollack said: Much better than same team nonsense by dhoni. Shows he is willing to try different combinations. Everything is good till limit Dhoni approach for having same team went beyond a limit of being good to extremely annoying Same is with kohli- some moves have been excellent some have been absolutely bizzare Everything shud have its limit 1 hour ago, BeautifulGame said: Who are the different youngsters who got chance to debut under Kohli at home ? The only one was Karun Nair and Pandya .The others were like recalling Gambhir , Parthiv , Dhawan , Mishra none of them is about giving chances with future on mind. Jayant yadav Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: lack of patience Everything is good till limit Dhoni approach for having same team went beyond a limit of being good to extremely annoying Same is with kohli- some moves have been excellent some have been absolutely bizzare Everything shud have its limit Jayant yadav How is lack of patience? It can be considered lack of patience if a player is dropped just after 1 or 2 match. That hardly seems to be the case in his captaincy. All players are getting enough chances. You can question team selection like Rahul's exclusion, but it's not that he is completely discarded. He has played 20 tests so far in 3 years which is good number for any youngster. We can argue that he deserves more, but he is out more due to Kohli's favor to Dhawan than him running out of patience for Rahul. speedheat 1 Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Very interesting stat. Will need to see more deeper analysis on this. Some changes are necessary, but not a single instance of consecutive test match with same XI is pretty hard to understand. So basically besides Kohli, nobody is consistently being played at the same spot. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
Ankit_sharma03 Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Trichromatic said: How is lack of patience? It can be considered lack of patience if a player is dropped just after 1 or 2 match. That hardly seems to be the case in his captaincy. All players are getting enough chances. You can question team selection like Rahul's exclusion, but it's not that he is completely discarded. He has played 20 tests so far in 3 years which is good number for any youngster. We can argue that he deserves more, but he is out more due to Kohli's favor to Dhawan than him running out of patience for Rahul. rahane's case for this yr......failed one series only and finds himself on bench Vijay was dropped last series Nair was dropped after one poor series U dnt drop good players after one bad series neither you can big player from young cricketers after dropping them for one bad series . Batting position, if the idea of making rohit no 3 was taken then give him time......no matter if it was a bizzare call back it and give him few games. 2-3 games and it was changed Till SL tour dhawan wasnt even in top 3 openers, suddently bashing minnows makes ahead of rahul who has made runs in tough conditions. As i said its good sometimes like in case of bowler , choosing acc to pitch and condition like it was done in WI- bhuvi for pitches with better asst and lush green outfield, yadav for dry surfaces and rough outfield. But some position needs consistency in selection and backing to philcric 1 Link to comment
Lannister Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 A squad has 15 - 16 players, you need to utilize and give chance to all the players. I understand why some fans are hard time getting it. Link to comment
Shunya Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Is it also possible that slip cordon is weak because of this? Constant changing and chopping, no consistency for longer period of time. Nobody's settled in those positions. Gollum and Ankit_sharma03 2 Link to comment
Gollum Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 Basically every player apart from Kohli has been dropped at some point. A disgrace I would call it because Kohli isn't even among the top 3 most important test specialists in this country, not even top 10 in certain conditions. Link to comment
SK_IH Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gollum said: Basically every player apart from Kohli has been dropped at some point. A disgrace I would call it because Kohli isn't even among the top 3 most important test specialists in this country, not even top 10 in certain conditions. bhai tu rehne diya kar,Virat is if not best ,2nd best batsman atleast even in tests Cricketics 1 Link to comment
Trichromatic Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: rahane's case for this yr......failed one series only and finds himself on bench Vijay was dropped last series Nair was dropped after one poor series U dnt drop good players after one bad series neither you can big player from young cricketers after dropping them for one bad series . Batting position, if the idea of making rohit no 3 was taken then give him time......no matter if it was a bizzare call back it and give him few games. 2-3 games and it was changed Till SL tour dhawan wasnt even in top 3 openers, suddently bashing minnows makes ahead of rahul who has made runs in tough conditions. As i said its good sometimes like in case of bowler , choosing acc to pitch and condition like it was done in WI- bhuvi for pitches with better asst and lush green outfield, yadav for dry surfaces and rough outfield. But some position needs consistency in selection and backing to Yes, it's a disgrace that he did well in a series before that and failed in next one to be dropped. But doubt this is Kohli running out of patience. This is more of Kohli looking for an opportunity to promote Rohit than him running out of patience. It's a case of bias and favoritism. Link to comment
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