Cricketics Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Top Middle order at 3-4-5 of Pujara-Kohli-Rahane along with bowling attack of Bumrah-Bhuvi-Shami. Together this bowling batting combination will aid each other in helping India win the series. Rest all can be changed and their perfomance should be monitored but these 6 guys must be given proper chance to play together as a combo and I guarantee we will win. If you are against the idea of BBS attack and the trip of batsmen I shared above then please tell me a better combo. 6 core players mentioned above will create history.
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cricketics said: Top Middle order at 3-4-5 of Pujara-Kohli-Rahane along with bowling attack of Bumrah-Bhuvi-Shami. Together this bowling batting combination will aid each other in helping India win the series. Rest all can be changed and their perfomance should be monitored but these 6 guys must be given proper chance to play together as a combo and I guarantee we will win. If you are against the idea of BBS attack and the trip of batsmen I shared above then please tell me a better combo. 6 core players mentioned above will create history. " Guarantee we will win " Been noted for further debate in the future lol
kubrickian Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 With an unstable opening partnership, you are always exposing 3,4,5 to the new ball and you are asking for trouble. To put good scores in SA, Eng or even Aus or NZ, you need good opening opening partnerships which can see off the new ball and also give some confidence to other batsmen. Vijay did that to an extent in the previous tours, but dont think he will come good this time around. Also Rahane is out of form and you cant count on other batsmen apart from Kohli and Pujara to a certain extent. Batting will be a huge problem. IMO its how the other 6-7 contribute that will decide India's future in the coming series.
The Realist Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 They will create history by being whitewashed. Little chance this team is even drawing games never mind winning them. Openers are critical and the current sorry lot barely make it into double digits. This then exposes a woefully out of form middle order which is more intent on survival then scoring and often collapses. Any runs that are mustered are by the tail throwing the bat. 200-250 totals are not winning any games. Even if the six players are all in form then what exactly are the other five doing, making the numbers? Can't expect to do well when half the team are passengers Tattieboy, velu and Switchblade 1 2
vayuu1 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 I think might not do us harm if rahane and Vijay play county cricket along with pujara,also might not harm us weebit if we send the few of the bowlers whom we consider can be an asset in English conditions, both Shami,saini can play in county .Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, vayuu1 said: I think might not do us harm if rahane and Vijay play county cricket along with pujara,also might not harm us weebit if we send the few of the bowlers whom we consider can be an asset in English conditions, both Shami,saini can play in county . Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk Would the BCCI allow 5 Englishman to play in Ranji Trophy? I don't think you can just send players to play county cricket
Gollum Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 @Cricketics you forgot Saha, the greatest keeper of the last 20 years. beetle and abc 2
vayuu1 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Would the BCCI allow 5 Englishman to play in Ranji Trophy? I don't think you can just send players to play county cricket But the thing is foreigners do play in county, pujara is playing, ishant played so did ashwin, I am sure if bcci allows a lot of teams will be interested in taking services of these gentlemen .Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk abc 1
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: But the thing is foreigners do play in county, pujara is playing, ishant played so did ashwin, I am sure if bcci allows a lot of teams will be interested in taking services of these gentlemen . Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk I will put it another way, why should the ECB and counties help India to beat England ?play a few games then disappear to beat England
vayuu1 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 I will put it another way, why should the ECB and counties help India to beat England ?play a few games then disappear to beat England I don't think counties think that way, they want international stars or rather batters who can help them win ,like zak did or those who can be asset for them. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk
abc Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: Would the BCCI allow 5 Englishman to play in Ranji Trophy? I don't think you can just send players to play county cricket You can do precisely that. All that matters is whether the given player is good enough to command a starting spot in the team as an overseas player (recall that overseas slots are restricted in number). Edited to add: if they are good enough, you could send a whole 30-man contingent consisting of the "probables" for the away tour. Edited January 24, 2018 by abc
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, vayuu1 said: I don't think counties think that way, they want international stars or rather batters who can help them win ,like zak did or those who can be asset for them. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk English players could help Ranji trophy win as well?
vayuu1 Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 English players could help Ranji trophy win as well? Well they do play ipl. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, abc said: You can do precisely that. All that matters is whether the given player is good enough to command a starting spot in the team as an overseas player (recall that overseas slots are restricted in number). No you can't just send across, only if they are wanted firstly can they play.
Mariyam Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tattieboy said: English players could help Ranji trophy win as well? Actually they have, circa 1940s. Many English players were a part of the winning Ranji teams of the 1930s and the 40s. Pre-Independence days. Some teams had a British quota too. For the British, it was a windfall gain , from colonizing India. Their cricketers became well versed with conditions in India. Laaloo 1
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: Well they do play ipl. Sent from my vivo 1601 using Tapatalk We are talking county and Ranji trophy first class cricket.
Tattieboy Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Mariyam said: Actually they have, circa 1940s. Many English players were a part of the winning Ranji teams of the 1930s and the 40s. Pre-Independence days. Some teams had a British quota too. For the British, it was a windfall gain , from colonizing India. Their cricketers became well versed with conditions in India. They could now?
bowl_out Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 We have the same six players this match.. What have we achieved?
Mariyam Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, Tattieboy said: They could now? Nah. I doubt it. They just aren't good enough anymore. BeautifulGame, Tattieboy, Gollum and 1 other 4
zen Posted January 24, 2018 Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) In the short term, the core is fine .... Need to add a spinner who can turn the ball on most surfaces relatively speaking .... and a good WK (if he can bat well that would be an added bonus) .... Someone like Pandya too gives Ind the flexibility to play 3 seamers (vs 4) and a spinner .... try to get a couple of youngsters in as well where applicable Open position (I heard the name of Shaw. Trust ICFers to spot talent) Che (can move up) Rahane (can come in at 3) Kohli open position WK (Saha) Pandya Kuldeep 3 Seamers * Batting positions are flexible depending up on how the open positions are filled Edited January 24, 2018 by zen abc and chewy 2
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