Sourav Ganguly calls ICC intervention for 'unfair' Johannesburg pitch

[saik]

Sourav Ganguly on Wednesday said the pitch for the third Test between India and South Africa was unfair on the batsmen and called for ICC's intervention into the matter.

 

http://www.cricketcountry.com/news/sourav-ganguly-calls-icc-intervention-for-unfair-johannesburg-pitch-680670

[maniac]

It is not worse than the Pune pitch earlier this year VS Australia 

 

as as long as it not like one of those WI pitches where 3 batsmen were injured in 10 overs or something like that we should man up and play.

[maniac]

Also hope dada has taken steps to  improve drainage system of the most iconic grounds in the world

[King Tendulkar]

It’s actulaly a terrible pitch 

 

if produce crazy rank turner from ball 1 it’s bad . Crazy green pitch which game over in 3 days just great track apparently 

 

sa won’t score more then 240. This pitch is nuts . Bowles like philander and bk bowling 83 mph leg breaks !

[velu]

dada hates green mambas  

[zen]

Ganguly does not like green pitches .... Nevertheless could have a point if sporting pitches are the way to go 

 

 

 

 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, King Tendulkar said:

It’s actulaly a terrible pitch 

 

if produce crazy rank turner from ball 1 it’s bad . Crazy green pitch which game over in 3 days just great track apparently 

 

sa won’t score more then 240. This pitch is nuts . Bowles like philander and bk bowling 83 mph leg breaks !

Yes....bad in terms of lottery but complaining makes us look bad when we laid out the Pune pitch were okeefe took 6 wickets ffs.

 

As long as players not getting injured I am personally ok with such pitches once in a while ...if they become a norm than yes I have a problem 

[Tattieboy]

By the ICC citing the MCG for being unfair to bowlers it opens up the thoughts for 

Too much bounce 

Not enough bounce 

Too much seam

Not enough seam 

Too much turn

Not enough turn etc etc 

Everywicket will become unfair to someone 

 

Kohli didn't push his foot across and tried to drive  a ball a foot outside off stump ..poor shot 

Rahul didn't play back or forward and tried to play crouched on crease  ..poor shot 

[King Tendulkar]

12 minutes ago, maniac said:

Yes....bad in terms of lottery but complaining makes us look bad when we laid out the Pune pitch were okeefe took 6 wickets ffs.

 

As long as players not getting injured I am personally ok with such pitches once in a while ...if they become a norm than yes I have a problem 

Tests 1 and 3 been like this . Crazy movement . Total lottery . At least 2 balls an over are unplayable balls of the century 

[Gollum]

23 minutes ago, maniac said:

It is not worse than the Pune pitch earlier this year VS Australia 

 

as as long as it not like one of those WI pitches where 3 batsmen were injured in 10 overs or something like that we should man up and play.

Pune pitch was given 'poor' rating by Broad, another such rating and it won't be able to host a test match for 10 years. Why do these green mambas never get 'poor' rating?

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

Pune pitch was given 'poor' rating by Broad, another such rating and it won't be able to host a test match for 10 years. Why do these green mambas never get 'poor' rating?

They should

[Nonbeliever]

[Gollum]

2 minutes ago, maniac said:

They should

Hence we must applaud Dada for raising this issue, enough with the double standards. 

[maniac]

2 minutes ago, Gollum said:

Hence we must applaud Dada for raising this issue, enough with the double standards. 

Timing looks bad...what if it evens out tommorow?

 

yes from the look of it doesn’t seem the case

[Vilander]

25 minutes ago, maniac said:

Yes....bad in terms of lottery but complaining makes us look bad when we laid out the Pune pitch were okeefe took 6 wickets ffs.

 

As long as players not getting injured I am personally ok with such pitches once in a while ...if they become a norm than yes I have a problem 

not necessarily. This is about the joburg pitch, why are you bringing in pune etc. 

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Vilander said:

not necessarily. This is about the joburg pitch, why are you bringing in pune etc. 

Because I believe this pitch is not a total minefield atleast as of yet!!!

 

I am ok with pitches that start of flat and become dustbowls or pitches that have grass and then even out.

 

Try harder with the comprehension 

[Vilander]

Just now, maniac said:

Because I believe this pitch is not a total minefield atleast as of yet!!!

 

I am ok with pitches that start of flat and become dustbowls or pitches that have grass and then even out.

 

Try harder with the comprehension 

who are fcuk are you man lol ' i' apparently, no one care what you think dude, some people care what Ganguly has to say since he is a past captain of India. Ganguly is not ok, he must have heard Indian cricketing fraternity not being ok with it so is voicing it. if there is a spinning pitch its a bad pitch if its a green pitch its a great pitch lol..

 

[Gollum]

@maniac I made this post in another thread. As you can see the Pune pitch was better than Cape Town pitch in terms of top scores, distribution of wickets and almost equal in terms of runs. Yet one pitch was rated 'poor' and the other pitch was apparently excellent. 

 

 

On 1/8/2018 at 9:28 PM, Gollum said:

Kanpur 2008 (India vs SA)

http://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/3865/ind-vs-rsa-3rd-test-south-africa-in-india-test-series-2008  (India won)

Team scores = 265, 325, 121, 64/2

Total runs scored for the loss of 32 wickets = 775

Avg runs/wicket = 24.22

Top scores in 1st and 2nd innings from either team = 1st innings Ganguly 87, 2nd innings Graeme Smith 35 (Ganguly 13*, Dravid 18*)

Distribution of wickets = 18-14 in favor of spinners

Match ref = Mahanama

Pitch rated as poor by ICC (still remember the moaning by Saffers esp Graeme Smith after the match got over , a match where we batted last)

 

Mohali 2015 (India vs SA)

https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/15069/ind-vs-rsa-1st-test-south-africa-tour-of-india-2015  (India won)

Team scores = 201, 184, 200, 109

Total runs scored for the loss of 40 wickets = 694

Avg runs/wicket = 17.35

Top scores in 1st and 2nd innings from either team = 1st innings Vijay 75, 2nd innings Pujara 77

Distribution of wickets = 35-5 in favor of spinners

Match ref = Jeff Crowe

Pitch rated as poor by ICC

 

Pune 2017 (Aus vs India)

http://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/17399/ind-vs-aus-1st-test-australia-test-tour-of-india-2017  (Aus won)

Team scores = 260, 105, 285, 107

Total runs scored for the loss of 40 wickets = 757

Avg runs/wicket = 18.92

Top scores in 1st and 2nd innings from either team = 1st innings Renshaw 68, 2nd innings Smith 109

Distribution of wickets = 31-9 in favor of spinners

Match ref = Chris Broad

Pitch rated as poor by ICC

 

Cape Town 2017 (India vs SA)

http://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scores/19157/rsa-vs-ind-1st-test-india-tour-of-south-africa-2017-18  (SA won)

Team scores = 286, 209, 130, 135

Total runs scored for the loss of 40 wickets = 760

Average runs/wicket = 19

Top scores in 1st and 2nd innings from either team = 1st innings Pandya 93, 2nd innings Ashwin 37

Distribution of wickets = 38-2 in favor of quicks

Match ref = Chris Broad

Pitch rating by ICC = yet to be released but people are going gaga about the excellent pitch and appreciating the great job done by the curator.

 

P.S. I don't think any of these pitches are poor, variety is an essence of cricket and it is good to test the over rated batsmen every once in a while in an age of flat decks. In fact if any pitch deserves to be rated poor, it should be the one where 1500+ runs are scored in 5 days with no result in sight. As you can see, batsmen who applied themselves have got runs in all the above 4 matches. Somehow I feel there is bias when it comes to pitch preparation by goras viz a viz Indians. 

[maniac]

3 minutes ago, Vilander said:

who are fcuk are you man lol ' i' apparently, no one care what you think dude, some people care what Ganguly has to say since he is a past captain of India. Ganguly is not ok, he must have heard Indian cricketing fraternity not being ok with it so is voicing it. if there is a spinning pitch its a bad pitch if its a green pitch its a great pitch lol..

 

I am a poster on an online cricket forum and so are you...is the forum rule to agree with everything a cricket legend has to say or are you supposed to have your individual assessment of things?

 

I said if it is a total minefield than sure but just because day 1 had some grass it looks stupid to start complaining till the match is over.

 

What if South Africa score 400 here?

Edited January 24, 2018 by maniac

[maniac]

1 minute ago, Gollum said:

@maniac I made this post in another thread. As you can see the Pune pitch was better than Cape Town pitch in terms of top scores, distribution of wickets and almost equal in terms of runs. Yet one pitch was rated 'poor' and the other pitch was apparently excellent. 

 

 

Yes that is unfair agreed