Bigg Brother Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Cant bowlers notice some kind of change in the ball while bowling? Obviously they can..And I can say that every single player did know about it..Although not everyone might be in the favour of tampering but not oposing it is itself an encouragement. Link to comment
Brainfade Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, Vilander said: its illegal per rule book, and the problem here is institutional tampering from a test captain and vice captain and potentially several team members and coach, making a rookie do it...reeks more than the actual crime. Say Smith got caught doing something to the ball, it would be just a ball tampering..but this is different with the whole leadership group being aware etc. Yep, it's also context. They got caught red-handed breaking the DRS rule and made some lame "brainfade" excuses this time last year. And now this. Serial cheats, if you ask me. Link to comment
Sachinism Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Any bowler can tell you, when you're looking to swing/reverse, you look at the ball every single delivery, for it to deteriorate that much and not notice. Laughable the bowlers were oblivious GoldenSun 1 Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Vilander said: he was just trying to get De Kock out. lol... Link to comment
Deleted_User_1 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Don't you know convicts stick up for each other? That is the prison gang system! Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dinx - the Jinx said: lol... che che dirty mind..look at this beetle didi.. Rasgulla 1 Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 hours ago, UnknownGenius said: My thoughts: Steve Smith - Ban for Life David Warner - Ban for Life Boof buff - Ban for 10 years Cam Bancroft - Ban only until India tour. India need a bunny at the top who they can get out cheaply Ridiculous Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 7 hours ago, zen said: The "investigation" appears to be more of a cover up job than one to get to the root cause and get the "pride" back Winning is pride. Nothing else and they did it to win the game. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: comman sense prevails among all accept sutherland, their must be an inquiry of the inquiry committee now Because CA has no obligation to investigate anything in the first place. ICC did and handed the ban. Stop making it like they did fixing. CA for sure will support their players like BCCI did before. Edited March 28, 2018 by rkt.india Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said: It seems like you're a fan of bringing the game into disrepute and lack of integrity? Are you a Mumbai Indian fan? Not knowing you, I'd wager you are.... Integrity, fair play these are really fashionable words and sound good to hear. It's all about win, only winners are remembered. No one remembers your fair play. All top sports are a business. They aren't just games anymore when players are earning millions. They are under constant pressure to win. Pressure of media, fans, board, sponsors. Australians were just trying to do that. This saga has just been blown out of proportions like they did match fixing. They did it but their bad luck that they got caught. ICC banned those players involved. CA has no obligation to do that because they did it to win games for the country. Don't equate this thing to match fixing. Posters at ICF are over-reacting. I remember Indians got banned in 2000. And BCCI fully backed them. Edited March 28, 2018 by rkt.india Jimmy Cliff, Vilander and Shunya 3 Link to comment
maniac Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Funnily enough making the coach who is a worthless fat turd anyway a scapegoat would have been the ideal solution 9/10 times(not saying it is right or wrong but pretty much would have been the norm ) especially to protect the players however hilariously enough in this case 2 of their biggest stars in the last 10 years are the ones potentially taking a huge hit while the coach is absolutely safe Un fkn believable Am I the only one desensitized to this whole thing and feel this reaction is a little over the top? Ban them for a few games, fine some chump change and Move on already Mosher and rkt.india 1 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 17 minutes ago, maniac said: Am I the only one desensitized to this whole thing and feel this reaction is a little over the top? I am sure Smith and Warner would feel that way. I do feel it's over the top now, no need for everyone in Australia to loose their marbles over this lol. But one can understand what they feel,their biggest sporting heroes in cricket and couple of the highest paid elite athletes just decided to cheat and make a rookie take all the risk. Made their country be counted next to Pakistan... Lol that's making them all kinds of mad right from their prime minister.. Man these guys are ruined. And it's sad to see. Smith and Warner damn. Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 37 minutes ago, maniac said: Funnily enough making the coach who is a worthless fat turd anyway a scapegoat would have been the ideal solution 9/10 times(not saying it is right or wrong but pretty much would have been the norm ) especially to protect the players however hilariously enough in this case 2 of their biggest stars in the last 10 years are the ones potentially taking a huge hit while the coach is absolutely safe Un fkn believable Am I the only one desensitized to this whole thing and feel this reaction is a little over the top? Ban them for a few games, fine some chump change and Move on already i feel the same. Link to comment
NameGoesHere Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Me too- IMO, the reaction is OTT. Link to comment
GolGappe Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I am enjoying hypocrites stabbing each other in the back. I still don't want these thugs to walk away with $2.1M IPL pay cheque. Link to comment
Straight Drive Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Furore in Aussie citizens regarding this. All are shaming this act by their players. Now there is a rift within the team as well. Some players have told CA that David Warner be removed from the hotel as this may lead to fights. So one of the worlds test batsman (Smith) has been sacked and banned for one match. He has also been sacked from IPL captiancy. Oh i see he stepped down just to make it look easy for him. probably RR management giving it a feel to public that he went on his own and Smiths reputation is not tarnished (whatever is left if it all) as well.If all this was not enough he is now taken to Australia, out of the tour. Australian people want them banned for an year or so. I think there is more to follow to one match ban, stripping of test captaincy, IPL captaincy sacking. CA are under tremendous pressure from their citizens as well as from their PM to add on to the actions they have taken against Smith and Warner. A judgement will be released shortly. I think atleast a 6 months ban is there in the proceedings given the backlash these 3 cricketers are getting in Australia. Even the sponsors want CA to take severe action. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5547991/Steve-Smith-quietly-removed-Weet-Bix-website-ambassador-amid-damning-cricket-scandal.html Cereal brand Weet-Bix has removed a picture of Steve Smith from its website The company has had a relationship with Australian cricket captain since 2015 Nobody wants the brand to be associated with cheaters and rightly so, otherwise the Aussie public will make mockery of these advertisements which have cheaters in it. Obviously the sponsors had no option but to put pressure on CA. Brand is more important than cricketers in business. Faf got one match ban, but Smith and others involved have taken big blows in last few days with more to come. Surely the toughest phase for him. When your own country fans are against you, there is hardly any core fan base left. Edited March 28, 2018 by Straight Drive Link to comment
zen Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: Winning is pride. Nothing else and they did it to win the game. They are banned for cheating though. Tomorrow you will support athletes who take drugs as well to win Link to comment
rkt.india Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, zen said: They are banned for cheating though. Tomorrow you will support athletes who take drugs as well to win not tomorrow, i do support them. Link to comment
zen Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, rkt.india said: not tomorrow, i do support them. Lance Armstrong? Link to comment
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