lamellavig Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Bumrah is the best fast bowler India has, in any format, by some distance. He will win us the series, even if India lose the first test (which is likely). Bumrah is hungry, skilled and is unstoppable in his recent form. Keep calm and enjoy Bumrah. vishalvirsingh 1 Link to comment
Popular Post express bowling Posted July 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) We desperately need a fit Bumrah in this test series. In SA test matches, he bowled with great intensity in most sessions, maintained high speeds of 138 k to 148 k throughout, hit the deck hard and extracted a lot of life out of the pitches and bowled to a plan. He looked hungry to win the tests and never looked like going through the motions. This is what we need ... and not pacers who drop intensity or pace or don't have any plans. Edited July 19, 2018 by express bowling LORD_analyst, Suhaan, Lannister and 7 others 1 4 5 Link to comment
gattaca Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 One bowler can’t win series /Thread Mosher, Switchblade and Ankit_sharma03 1 2 Link to comment
lamellavig Posted July 19, 2018 Author Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, gattaca said: One bowler can’t win series /Thread Bumrah is a bowler who can. Link to comment
kosingh Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Bumrah is then going to kick Dhoni out of ODIs and T20s. Only Bumrah can. raki05, Austin 3:!6 and adi B 2 1 Link to comment
putrevus Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I really want this guy to be fit for second test and sincerely hope they have not screwed him up.Bumrah after this series ha to be wrapped in cotton wool and given nice rest till Australian series.No need to play him in odis. Link to comment
ThePhenomenal1 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Bumrah Umesh (pace and bounce factor) Shami these 3 have to play. Could try shardul instead of ishant but confused about the 3rd pacer to cover for bumrah Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Time to look beyond Umesh,Ishant(to some extent)we have others waiting for opportunity,they too have the hunger,Cant believe bowlers lke Umesh and Ishant have been persisted with for so long.Though,Umesh in his entire career, only has bowled with great intensity and pace in Aussie tour of India 2017..but regressed a lot since then,so has given ample reason to look beyond him,Ishant was given a long rope till now in the name of grooming,he actually has bowled with control of late,but going forward dont think he can accompany Bumrah,bowlers like Siraj,Saini should be given decent chances in the longer format as is evident with their recent performances in domestics and A tours,India has the supply line to be best in the world be it in bowling,batting ...but down the line selection panel needs to have some vision,some focus, some planning and lots of honesty with their selection process,not a Rocket Science thing ,can be achieved (glory), with sheer passion to take this team with glorious past to the Peak Edited July 20, 2018 by Suhaan Switchblade and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Sandeep99 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Bumrah is good but doesn't warrant such a big excuse of a thread yet, in my humble opinion, especially in tests. In ODIs, yeah he was missed and could have made an impact but tests, not so sure. I remember Michael Holding saying Bumrah might not have what it takes on English pitches compared as to South African or Australian ones, because you need to kiss the surface here rather than bang it. I respect this man's opinions at times and even Wasim agreed with him.. All said and done, we will never know for sure until Bumrah actually plays though... Clarke and Ankit_sharma03 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Minus Bumrah,Bhuvi this rather gives look of a pretty weak bowling attack,we can never rely on Umesh,Ishant to take wickets upfront.At best Ishant will hold one end,Umesh with his lost pace wont have any influence,his lackluster discipline will ,which I fear might haunt us,then there is the slip cordon,seldom chances will be dropped with a foolish smile on their faces ,only to have a long long day.... sigh express bowling 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, lamellavig said: Bumrah is the best fast bowler India has, in any format, by some distance. He will win us the series, even if India lose the first test (which is likely). Bumrah is hungry, skilled and is unstoppable in his recent form. Keep calm and enjoy Bumrah. Stop over hyping him, in 6 test innings in SA he was the worst seamer, only outbowled Pandya! Given the favorable conditions, he should've won us a game at least. Since he didn't, his test credentials are still unproven. Imagine Aus picking Lee over Gillespie or Kasper, on 2004 tour of India. Unfortunately, like Kohli and many of the commies, the LO bowling blinds others wrt his longer format game. He still needs loads of experience & consistency in being a staple at test matches. Edited July 20, 2018 by R!TTER Sandeep99 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, R!TTER said: Stop over hyping him, in 6 test innings in SA he was the worst seamer, only outbowled Pandya! Given the favorable conditions, he should've won us a game at least. Since he didn't, his test credentials are still unproven. He did win us a game in Johannesburg,he took 5wickets in first innings,thereby Sa were not able to take a reasonable lead on that pitch express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Clarke Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'm not sure if he's that damn good, only time will tell. I do want to see him bowl in the Lords test, hope he's fit by then. That slope could be exploited well by him. Mosher 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Suhaan said: He did win us a game in Johannesburg,he took 5wickets in first innings,thereby Sa were not able to take a reasonable lead on that pitch He didn't, the wicket was always a minefield and the only way SA could've won was if they bowled out India early in the second innings. Our batters won us that game, not Bumrah. Edited July 20, 2018 by R!TTER Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Had it not been for Bumrah ,Sa could have taken a mammoth lead,bowling at right areas also matter regardless of the nature of the pitch, there had been many bowlers who failed to cash in conditions provided to them,He is best among the Indian pacers who read the condition well and bowl as the conditions demand,discarding or overlooking his performances in those three tests are unwarranted,he didn't bowl badly our batsmen rather messed up a golden opportunity we got in sa which was only given by our bowlers Mosher and express bowling 1 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Suhaan said: Had it not been for Bumrah ,Sa could have taken a mammoth lead,bowling at right areas also matter regardless of the nature of the pitch, there had been many bowlers who failed to cash in conditions provided to them,He is best among the Indian pacers who read the condition well and bowl as the conditions demand,discarding or overlooking his performances in those three tests are unwarranted,he didn't bowl badly our batsmen rather messed up a golden opportunity we got in sa which was only given by our bowlers He didn't bowl badly? Did you miss the 5 innings in which he ended up taking just 9 wickets? Statistically he was the worst frontline seamer in the series. He bowled poorly in the first test, was simply inconsistent with his line and length, didn't do much in the second test either. Sure the batters can be blamed but when you're the worst seamer, with at least 6 or 7 seamers outperforming you, including the debutant Ngidi, then clearly you've not done your job. Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, R!TTER said: He didn't bowl badly? Did you miss the 5 innings in which he ended up taking just 9 wickets? Statistically he was the worst frontline seamer in the series. He bowled poorly in the first test, was simply inconsistent with his line and length, didn't do much in the second test either. Sure the batters can be blamed but when you're the worst seamer, with at least 6 or 7 seamers outperforming you, including the debutant Ngidi, then clearly you've not done your job. So you think ending up with an average 25.11 make him bad or worst,if that is the case I think you are right express bowling 1 Link to comment
Khota Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 It will take all 11 and the bench to win this series. In 5 test series bench is more important than the starting 11. Bumrah alone won't hack it. Ankit_sharma03 1 Link to comment
R!TTER Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 18 minutes ago, Suhaan said: So you think ending up with an average 25.11 make him bad or worst,if that is the case I think you are right Yes, when opposition bowlers have sub 20 bowling avg and most of your team mates also avg under 20 with the ball, it is bad. Is it so bad that he need not apply for tests anymore - NO, but stop making him as some sort of a savior. Kumar was our best bowler that series, then comes Sharma and Shami. Sandeep99 1 Link to comment
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