Kohli plays with the worst Indian batting line up in last 2 decades

[Rasgulla]

1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

Another reason he is a greater test cricketer and better than selfish tendulkar in a formats

 

Tendulkar wasn't even the best in the team he played in. Dravid was and on their days sehwag, vvs etc were better

 

In this team, Kohli is almost always the best batsma 

 

Kohli>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sfish Sachin

well said.. Kohli rocks sachin chamchas shocks

[Rasgulla]

1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

Every mumbai batsman is over rated

 

Tendulkar

Rohit Sharma

Rahane

Next will be iyer and shaw 

first 2 are too much

[kira]

1 hour ago, UnknownGenius said:

Another reason he is a greater test cricketer and better than selfish tendulkar in a formats

 

Tendulkar wasn't even the best in the team he played in. Dravid was and on their days sehwag, vvs etc were better

 

In this team, Kohli is almost always the best batsma 

 

Kohli>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sfish Sachin

Just ban this known idiot already, he has already shown that his IQ level is in single digits, people this stupid shouldn't be allowed to spread more stupidity

[Rasgulla]

5 minutes ago, kira said:

Just ban this known idiot already, he has already shown that his IQ level is in single digits, people this stupid shouldn't be allowed to spread more stupidity

let's start with you shall we...

[Rightarmfast]

If Kohli bats with the worst batsmen, whose fault is it? He is the one who has vested interest in letting only his friends play in the team. Had there been a sane coach, selector, we would have had better batsmen and player. Kohli is the one to be blamed for the current rot, majorly.

[R!TTER]

1 minute ago, Rightarmfast said:

If Kohli bats with the worst batsmen, whose fault is it? He is the one who has vested interest in letting only his friends play in the team. Had there been a sane coach, selector, we would have had better batsmen and player. Kohli is the one to be blamed for the current rot, majorly.

While partly true the blame also lies with ballless selectors and Shastri. You don't chop and change your batting to fit your buddies or some stupid idea wrt left/right hand combination. We should've stuck with the same set of 5/6 batters and played them away, whenever fit.

[gattaca]

4 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

If Kohli bats with the worst batsmen, whose fault is it? He is the one who has vested interest in letting only his friends play in the team. Had there been a sane coach, selector, we would have had better batsmen and player. Kohli is the one to be blamed for the current rot, majorly.

These are the batsman we been playing for few years now . Also apart from Gill and Shaw may be I dont remember we got good batsmen in waiting even in domestics. May be Mayank agarwal but lot of icfers say his technique is suspect.

Edited August 3, 2018 by gattaca

[express bowling]

10 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

If Kohli bats with the worst batsmen, whose fault is it? He is the one who has vested interest in letting only his friends play in the team. Had there been a sane coach, selector, we would have had better batsmen and player. Kohli is the one to be blamed for the current rot, majorly.

 

Vijay, Rahul, Kohli, Rahane were selected by 95% of people for this test ... be it experts or fans.

 

Dhawan is a biased selection by Kohli  ...  but can't blame the selections of the other 4.  

 

The backup test batsmen, who played for India A, have not been convincing against the moving ball either.

 

Playing IPL, during the time the 90s and 80s batters used to play County cricket, has led to new-age batters not learning how to play swing properly.

[swastikpanda2]

12 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Vijay, Rahul, Kohli, Rahane were selected by 95% of people for this test ... be it experts or fans.

 

Dhawan is a biased selection by Kohli  ...  but can't blame the selections of the other 4.  

 

The backup test batsmen, who played for India A, have not been convincing against the moving ball either.

 

Playing IPL, during the time the 90s and 80s batters used to play County cricket, has led to new-age batters not learning how to play swing properly.

Kohli is partially responsible for this rot. His team selection might have lead to insecurities which would have have affected confidence of some players.

 

Not having Dravid as overseas batting consultant and enough practice matches prior to test series can also be another factor.

Players need to spend time in tough conditions and get scores to be confident.

[express bowling]

15 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

Kohli is partially responsible for this rot. His team selection might have lead to insecurities which would have have affected confidence of some players.

 

In the last 3 years, Rahane and Vijay have played 90% of the tests if fit.   Don't think their performances have been affected that much by insecurity.

 

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Not having Dravid as overseas batting consultant and enough practice matches prior to test series can also be another factor.

Players need to spend time in tough conditions and get scores to be confident.

 

There was only 1 practice match scheduled and not more.  That was the original BCCI schedule.   Yes, one more day could have been played in that match ...  but looking at how bad our current technique against swing is ... I doubt whether a single more day would have helped.

 

Look how bad even England has been against swing despite playing at home.

 

In the T20 era, batters are playing with hard hands and jabbing at channel deliveries.  Test cricket will never be the same as 10 years back ... if the ball moves.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2018 by express bowling

[swastikpanda2]

10 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

In the last 3 years, Rahane and Vijay have played 90% of the tests if fit.   Don't think their performances have been affected that much by insecurity.

 

 

There was only 1 practice match scheduled and not more.  That was the original BCCI schedule.   Yes, one more day could have been played in that match ...  but looking at how bad our current technique against swing is ... I doubt whether a single more day would have helped.

 

Look how bad even England has been against swing despite playing at home.

 

In the T20 era, batters are playing with hard hands and jabbing at channel deliveries.  Test cricket will never be the same as 10 years back ... if the ball moves.

 

 

I meant 2-3 practice matches. Players need to spend time in order to feel aquainted. Even Kohli was struggling initially but after his 100 he batted with a better control.

 

Three years period is different. Things have changed rapidly after Kumble's exit.

Vijay is not a sure starter. Rahane was dropped for Rohit Sharma ( His omission from Odi squad might have a role to play with, not Kohli's fault. He is seen chasing wide deliveries which he is used to leave. )

[Rightarmfast]

58 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Vijay, Rahul, Kohli, Rahane were selected by 95% of people for this test ... be it experts or fans.

 

Dhawan is a biased selection by Kohli  ...  but can't blame the selections of the other 4.  

 

The backup test batsmen, who played for India A, have not been convincing against the moving ball either.

 

Playing IPL, during the time the 90s and 80s batters used to play County cricket, has led to new-age batters not learning how to play swing properly.

Accepted about Rahula and rahane etc. but has Kohli let them have a regular stint with the team? Is he not responsible for their regular in and out policy? That doesnt corrode their confidence you think? Have these players settled in?

[putrevus]

26 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Accepted about Rahula and rahane etc. but has Kohli let them have a regular stint with the team? Is he not responsible for their regular in and out policy? That doesnt corrode their confidence you think? Have these players settled in?

What do you want Kohli to do, they are just playing with 5 batsmen in quest of getting 20 wickets so they will be lot of changes and non performers will be rotated , I don't see how anyone can have an issue with it.

Edited August 3, 2018 by putrevus

[express bowling]

28 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said:

Accepted about Rahula and rahane etc. but has Kohli let them have a regular stint with the team? Is he not responsible for their regular in and out policy? That doesnt corrode their confidence you think? Have these players settled in?

 

Rahul has always got a raw deal especially in LOIs.  Got dropped at the slightest pretext.  Has happened sometimes in tests too but some of his absences have been due to 2 or 3 separate injuries that he sustained before critical test series.

 

Rahane got an uninterrupted run of around 40 tests before he was dropped in S.A.  His decline is not due to lack of support.

 

Vijay has been more or less a regular in the test eleven too.

 

Kohli is a poor mentor and immature too. But the bigger problem I see in test batting these days has more to do with T20s. People cannot play swing these days as they practice playing with hard hands and playing at everything outside off. Not getting county cricket practice due to the IPL does not help either.

Edited August 3, 2018 by express bowling

[Vilander]

2 hours ago, mahesh_g said:

as an admin, why cant you warn him? 

Warn him for what calling mumbi batsmen crap. Thats an opinion man whats the big deal.

[express bowling]

39 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

I meant 2-3 practice matches. Players need to spend time in order to feel aquainted. Even Kohli was struggling initially but after his 100 he batted with a better control.

 

Vijay and Rahane played 2 matches as they were included in an A-team match.  Regarding others ... they can't play more practice matches unless such games are scheduled. (  It is a separate issue that they don't seem interested in such matches )

 

39 minutes ago, swastikpanda2 said:

Three years period is different. Things have changed rapidly after Kumble's exit.

Vijay is not a sure starter. Rahane was dropped for Rohit Sharma ( His omission from Odi squad might have a role to play with, not Kohli's fault. He is seen chasing wide deliveries which he is used to leave. )

Kumble had his issues too.  He brought back Gambhir and Parthiv when Rahul and Saha got injured in a test series.  Did not get any new talent. He also pushed for Yuvraj in ODIs and got it.

 

 

 

[Ankit_sharma03]

 

 

 

[Adi_91]

21 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

 

 

 

This is a return of the dark times when Indian team mostly loses depending on one batsman. 

 

World Cup chances are all but gone.. 

[Shunya]

Few matches back, we were the greatest team with greatest captain ever winning all series at home or beating lowly windies or lankans away...

Dhoni left the team after last SENA tour and since then Kohli and the team has been winning continuosly scoring loads of runs...

Now that bowler friendly conditions are back with tough tours, how can we just turn so bad. 

[Shunya]

8 minutes ago, Adi_91 said:

This is a return of the dark times when Indian team mostly loses depending on one batsman. 

 

World Cup chances are all but gone.. 

Just hope Kohli does not turn into a selfish cricketer and start worrying about his own scores only.