Kohli And Shastri Have This Special Vardhan Of Being Able To Get The Playing XI Wrong For Almost Every Game

[Charlie_]

Even with this batting line up, Indian team could have been much more competitive provided they had a real technical coach invested in Test Cricket and good dressing room atmosphere. 

 

 

[SK_IH]

3 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

That alrounder would be 4th seamer if we didn't have 2 spinners.

Yep we don't need him as 4th seamer as well,we need someone capable 

In so far as playing 2 spinners on this wkt is concerned,its looking bad and illogical in the hindsight ,had we got a competitive score ,two spinners would have been great in 4th innings 

[R!TTER]

Just now, rkt.india said:

That alrounder would be 4th seamer if we didn't have 2 spinners.

You're still sticking to your alternate version of facts 

[Number]

I hope Pandya's leg cutters and knuckle balls keep his economy less than 8 rpo. 

[rkt.india]

14 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Yep we don't need him as 4th seamer as well,we need someone capable 

In so far as playing 2 spinners on this wkt is concerned,its looking bad and illogical in the hindsight ,had we got a competitive score ,two spinners would have been great in 4th innings 

You think any team could get over 200 in these conditions? Who is that more capable that you needed. Sixth batsman? You think that batsman would have done better than other batsman here? I would have played four specialist seamers here, would not have played even Ashwin.

[rkt.india]

6 minutes ago, R!TTER said:

You're still sticking to your alternate version of facts 

Yes like we have anyone better.

[jf1gp_1]

32 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

Two spinners is a luxury in low scoring games on non-turners. They could have given debut to Thakur who also bowls good outswingers if not Umesh Yadav.

Given how the first innings went 2 spinners definitely is a luxury. 

[Pollack]

7 hours ago, Gollum said:

WTF? How are bowlers culprits when batsmen can't get to 110? Had they scored 220 here maybe you would have had a point. 

You'll understand once the match progress. These are conditions where bowlers need to outperform opposition bowlers. We are seriously ill equipped here. 110 is below par but not very far. Most teams would struggle to score 150  under conditions we played. And to top it we have to face a great bowler like Anderson one can excuse batsmen for being below par. Bowlers are the one who never step up completely. They bowl a few good sessions and let off the pressure allowing the opposition to take the lead. 

[Lannister]

Under Kumble, there was professionalism and responsibility taken by the players. They know what they are playing for, how much expectations are on them and what it means to play for India. You don't get that same feeling with this current setup. These guys reminds me of my childhood gang when we used to play cricket. There is just no accountability. 

[R!TTER]

Just now, Pollack said:

You'll understand once the match progress. These are conditions where bowlers need to outperform opposition bowlers. We are seriously ill equipped here. 110 is below par but not very far. Most teams would struggle to score 150  under conditions we played. And to top it we have to face a great bowler like Anderson one can excuse batsmen for being below par. Bowlers are the one who never step up completely. They bowl a few good sessions and let off the pressure allowing the opposition to take the lead. 

That's not true for 2018, the biggest culprits are catchers. If we'd taken every catch in SA and Eng thus far, we would've won that series and won the first game as well.

 

You're seriously berating the bowlers, wow! The batsmen, including Kohli, need a serious jolt of lightning to make them understand their roles in the team!

Edited August 11, 2018 by R!TTER

[SK_IH]

39 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

You think any team could get over 200 in these conditions? Who is that more capable that you needed. Sixth batsman? You think that batsman would have done better than other batsman here? I would have played four specialist seamers here, would not have played even Ashwin.

Obviously capable seamer I meant

[rkt.india]

16 minutes ago, SK_IH said:

Obviously capable seamer I meant

but why would you play a seamer in place of Pandya instead of a more capable batsman in these conditions? we already have 4 bowlers. you dont need more than 4 bowlers in these conditions ideally if you have picked right bowlers. more than 4 bowlers are only needed when conditions are flat and they have to bowler a lot of overs.

[SK_IH]

12 minutes ago, rkt.india said:

but why would you play a seamer in place of Pandya instead of a more capable batsman in these conditions? we already have 4 bowlers. you dont need more than 4 bowlers in these conditions ideally if you have picked right bowlers. more than 4 bowlers are only needed when conditions are flat and they have to bowler a lot of overs.

Why it's so hard to comprehend,I like to see 3 capable seamers playing and Pandya is not one of them

It's a completely different issue that we played two spinners on this pitch but even if we were going that route we should have maintain the balance,now we are extremely short changed with only 2 seamers here 

[Lannister]

9 hours ago, express bowling said:

Kuldeep has not bowled yet ... so I am not basing it on current bowling performances at all.

 

Our batting is very weak ... so we need some kind of batting till No.8.  Jadeja has played a decent knock in England before.

But why Jadeja? He never gave us any indication in the previous tours that he will succeed on these conditions as a bowler and taking wickets is his primary role not scoring runs. Shouldn't be better off investing in a specialist batsman or a bowler? 

Edited August 11, 2018 by Lannister

[Lannister]

8 hours ago, UrmiSinhaRay said:

I will say one thing:
Kohli depends a lot on media outcry for selection.
If people go crazy for some player, they just include him

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He said he don't care much about what they say in social media. I don't think that's the issue here. Lot of people didn't want Dhawan in the squad, but he still ended up in the squad anyway. 

[Lannister]

8 hours ago, Switchblade said:

Athers said last game that cheerleader has his inputs but it’s minimum more or less Virat controls the show.

It's because the cheerleader was never a great player in his playing days. Kohli is not someone who'd listen to the inputs of an inferior player.

[rtmohanlal]

a combination of bad luck( in the form of lossing the toss &  continuous rain breaks) & far from adequate competency in batting(even a bowler ASHWIN scored 29 in these conditions) are the main reasons

[Gollum]

1 hour ago, Pollack said:

You'll understand once the match progress. These are conditions where bowlers need to outperform opposition bowlers. We are seriously ill equipped here. 110 is below par but not very far. Most teams would struggle to score 150  under conditions we played. And to top it we have to face a great bowler like Anderson one can excuse batsmen for being below par. Bowlers are the one who never step up completely. They bowl a few good sessions and let off the pressure allowing the opposition to take the lead. 

107 is a joke total, a par score yesterday would have been 100/5 in 34 overs, no way can we comeback from that trainwreck of a batting show. Won't excuse the batsmen because this isn't one off, they are failing continuously which indicates that they aren't equipped to fight it out in tough conditions. Pakistani batsmen show better application in these conditions, that sums up our present level. 

 

Today sun may be out which will make conditions easier, and we are without Bhuvi-Bumrah...spinners will find it tough going. Team selection is flawed and catchers/WK pe koi bharosa nahi ha. No matter what happens bowlers aren't the ones who will cost us this match. You will be hard pressed to find instances where teams have come back to win after being shot down for 100 odd runs on day 1...and that covers the entire 100+ years of test history. 

Edited August 11, 2018 by Gollum

[nitinbwj]

Weather is predicted to be good for atleast 2 sessions. Eng 200 for 4 and it would be all over. It already is.

[rkt.india]

18 minutes ago, Gollum said:

107 is a joke total, a par score yesterday would have been 100/5 in 34 overs,

at least 200 is needed on any track to make a game.