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Chennai Super Kings influencing national selections?

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don't know about this but there are some Karnataka players losing out - either one of Rahul, Mayank and Pandey had claims to be playing atleast one match in this Asia Cup 
 
Mayank will have couple of average matches in List A and then he will be forever relegated to sidelines while someone like Raina just needs one knock to get back into the side
There's some Invisible Karnataka Quota thing going on.


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If deserving and best players are getting selected, keeping in mind the team composition,  then most people won't mind if all 11 players are from CSK or any other franchise.

 

Let us study whether the CSK players selected for the LOIs in England and the Asia Cup, are deserving and the best available.

 

Kedar Jadhav --  Has a high SR in ODIs along with a good average.  Is decent at No.6 and provides a 6th bowling option.

 

Fair selection.

 

Suresh Raina --  He was selected in the ODI squad in England after Rayudu failed the yo yo test.  On what basis was he selected  ?   Was not a part of India A , did nothing of note in List A in 2018 and was not among the best in IPL 2018.

 

Read that he was selected as he can bowl a bit and is needed in the absence of Kedar.   So, why was the original selection, Rayudu, not much of a bowler  ?

 

And on what basis was Raina selected in T20Is in England  ?  Many people did better than him in IPL 2018.

 

 

Rayudu --   On what basis was he selected for ODIs in England  ?   Did not play in our A-team before that and did nothing noteworthy in List A in 2018.  If the selection was based on IPL 2018 performances  (  which is a strange thing to do for ODI selection  ) then why not Pant who had a much higher average and much higher SR which is much needed in modern day LOIs.

 

And before the Asia Cup selection, Rayudu played for India A in the Quadrangular series and played at low strike rates in all 4 games.

 

Even if he performs somewhat for India, his selection basis remains dubious and there will be no way to know how the more deserving candidate would have performed in his place.

 

 

Jadeja --  Same question again. Among spinners who can bat ... Gowtham,  Krunal aand Gopal have performed  for India A and / or in List A in recent times.  How are they ignored ?

 

But I still think that Jadeja's selection has more basis than Rayudu or Raina ... because he is a champion bowler in test matches and has just played a great knock in England, albeit in tests.  The team management may have wanted an experienced guy who is in good form and in a positive mental frame now.

 

 

Shardul Thakur --    Keeps getting selected in all 3 formats.   But does not come across as a pacer of such quality that he will automatically precede all other upcoming pacers in every format.  

 

Atleast his basis for selection can't be questioned as he has performed for India-A and in FC.  But one would expect a super performer in the Unofficial tests, like Siraj, to get preference ahead of Shardul in test squads.

 

 

Deepak Chahar --  Was named as a replacement for Bumrah in the T20I squad in England. It looked strange that a genuine fast bowler was being replaced by a swing bowler at a time when England was experiencing a heat wave and there was almost no swing on offer and the squad already had 2 more swing bowlers in Bhuvi and Kaul.

 

Chahar has performed for India-A in the 50-over format and has some batting ability.  Him replacing Pandya in the ODI squad is reasonable fair.

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If deserving and best players are getting selected, keeping in mind the team composition,  then most people won't mind if all 11 players are from CSK or any other franchise.
 
Let us study whether the CSK players selected for the LOIs in England and the Asia Cup, are deserving and the best available.
 
Kedar Jadhav --  Has a high SR in ODIs along with a good average.  Is decent at No.6 and provides a 6th bowling option.
 
Fair selection.
 
Suresh Raina --  He was selected in the ODI squad in England after Rayudu failed the yo yo test.  On what basis was he selected  ?   Was not a part of India A , did nothing of note in List A in 2018 and was not among the best in IPL 2018.
 
Read that he was selected as he can bowl a bit and is needed in the absence of Kedar.   So, why was the original selection, Rayudu, not much of a bowler  ?
 
And on what basis was Raina selected in T20Is in England  ?  Many people did better than him in IPL 2018.
 
 
Rayudu --   On what basis was he selected for ODIs in England  ?   Did not play in our A-team before that and did nothing noteworthy in List A in 2018.  If the selection was based on IPL 2018 performances  (  which is a strange thing to do for ODI selection  ) then why not Pant who had a much higher average and much higher SR which is much needed in modern day LOIs.
 
And before the Asia Cup selection, Rayudu played for India A in the Quadrangular series and played at low strike rates in all 4 games.
 
Even if he performs somewhat for India, his selection basis remains dubious and there will be no way to know how the more deserving candidate would have performed in his place.
 
 
Jadeja --  Same question again. Among spinners who can bat ... Gowtham,  Krunal aand Gopal have performed  for India A and / or in List A in recent times.  How are they ignored ?
 
But I still think that Jadeja's selection has more basis than Rayudu or Raina ... because he is a champion bowler in test matches and has just played a great knock in England, albeit in tests.  The team management may have wanted an experienced guy who is in good form and in a positive mental frame now.
 
 
Shardul Thakur --    Keeps getting selected in all 3 formats.   But does not come across as a pacer of such quality that he will automatically precede all other upcoming pacers in every format.  
 
Atleast his basis for selection can't be questioned as he has performed for India-A and in FC.  But one would expect a super performer in the Unofficial tests, like Siraj, to get preference ahead of Shardul in test squads.
 
 
Deepak Chahar --  Was named as a replacement for Bumrah in the T20I squad in England. It looked strange that a genuine fast bowler was being replaced by a swing bowler at a time when England was experiencing a heat wave and there was almost no swing on offer and the squad already had 2 more swing bowlers in Bhuvi and Kaul.
 
Chahar has performed for India-A in the 50-over format and has some batting ability.  Him replacing Pandya in the ODI squad is reasonable fair.
Dhoni has influence on Virat Kohli and Shastri.Its no surprise team management is basically The selection committee.
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BUMP! 

 

The only reason why Rayudu and Jadeja are in the squad is because of CSK quota. 

 

They have done absolutely nothing in domestic cricket to have gotten selected for the national team.

 

If India wants to win the World Cup, then neither of these losers should be on that plane to England. 

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Dhoni is only half the part .. Major influence coming from Mama mafia .Without  that backing MSD won't have the same leverage . Also notice this happens only with 50 over & T 20 senior & A teams . Not in tests.  So the IPL brand building through this for CSK is very evident.  

Selectors are too meek and hence always select these in 13-14 whether national one days team or A team . VK also cannot go against it it seems .

Just imagine - Raydu did not anything great in domestic and most  of the time was not even a A team member . how without being in A team he leapfrogged ?  He has the audacity to not play domestic and yet he has no fear of being omitted from team for that ? How come he has such confidence of getting selected? 

 

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45 minutes ago, Sandeep99 said:

Yeah we get it. My sincerest request is at least select some good players in CSK squad. Thakur, Karn, Raina, Rayudu, pi*s, shi*t.. these are the players they have. At least select some good youngsters and draft them in Indian squad. Align Indian interests with CSK interests!

Lungi ngidi :giggle:

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1 hour ago, prudent_kreeda said:

Dhoni is only half the part .. Major influence coming from Mama mafia .Without  that backing MSD won't have the same leverage . Also notice this happens only with 50 over & T 20 senior & A teams . Not in tests.  So the IPL brand building through this for CSK is very evident.  

Selectors are too meek and hence always select these in 13-14 whether national one days team or A team . VK also cannot go against it it seems .

Just imagine - Raydu did not anything great in domestic and most  of the time was not even a A team member . how without being in A team he leapfrogged ?  He has the audacity to not play domestic and yet he has no fear of being omitted from team for that ? How come he has such confidence of getting selected? 

 

Questions should be asked from shameless selectors who set criteria before that even if someone injured he has to play domestic and then be applicable for international. In case of Rayadu, looks like he is so much talented that he ll only play for csk and India international. What a pathetic bunch of looser these selectors and kohli, Shastri combo is.:facepalm:

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