Krunal Pandya’s knock today is a breath of fresh air

[Rightarmfast]

Both the brothers are a big hype. I am not even convinced about krunals batting. His bowling has always looked dollies. 

if we play the likes or Krunal, we will be taking indian Cricket 10 yrs back 

[Ankit_sharma03]

4 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Both the brothers are a big hype. I am not even convinced about krunals batting. His bowling has always looked dollies. 

if we play the likes or Krunal, we will be taking indian Cricket 10 yrs back 

Hype?????

No said that they are the second coming of sobers or kallis

 

Stop proving ur point by using oh ppl hype, No one hypes them

those are the best all rounder option avl in country in LOI and that is a reality ( if u differ find me option or else end it here)

 

Stop calling reality a hype 

[Khota]

8 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Both the brothers are a big hype. I am not even convinced about krunals batting. His bowling has always looked dollies. 

if we play the likes or Krunal, we will be taking indian Cricket 10 yrs back 

Both brothers are not frontline bowlers. They can hit a few but that too not consistently.

[sandeep]

5 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Hype?????

No said that they are the second coming of sobers or kallis

 

Stop proving ur point by using oh ppl hype, No one hypes them

those are the best all rounder option avl in country in LOI and that is a reality ( if u differ find me option or else end it here)

 

Stop calling reality a hype 

For some folks those 2 count as "North Indian" and can't be viewed objectively.  

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

Both brothers are not frontline bowlers. They can hit a few but that too not consistently.

consistent hitting video game men hoti hai

U knw better hitters in the country please do mention their names

[Rightarmfast]

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

Hype?????

No said that they are the second coming of sobers or kallis

 

Stop proving ur point by using oh ppl hype, No one hypes them

those are the best all rounder option avl in country in LOI and that is a reality ( if u differ find me option or else end it here)

 

Stop calling reality a hype 

Just because there's no availability of petrol, I am not someone who will start using kerosene for my car. There are some who apply that rule. 

 

Secondly, nobody needs your validation on what words to use to prove their point. And if I am already proving my point, why is it so much of a pain to you? Keep it to yourself, dont try to moderate my posts, you are not the dictator here. So the next time, choose your words wisely and dont try to tell people what they can and cant say!

 

The ' best allrounders' is not such a tag to be used so loosely on someone. It carries some weight. However, if your standards are low, I wouldnt blame you. 

 

Cheers!

 

 

[Clarke]

Bowls a better bouncer than Bhuvi koomarr, no one mentioned that yet

[zen]

Very handy player .... closed the first T20 with the bat and did a decent job as the 5th bowler in batting friendly conditions 

 

Look forward to the series in Aus 

[Khota]

9 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

consistent hitting video game men hoti hai

U knw better hitters in the country please do mention their names

Any proper batsman. Even Shaw would be fine.

[express bowling]

3 hours ago, Khota said:

Any proper batsman. Even Shaw would be fine.

 

1.  In LOIs,  5 bowlers are needed because of over restrictions per bowler.  So,  7 specialist batsmen cannot be played.  So, how can Shaw replace Krunal  ?

 

2.   If a 5th specialist bowler is chosen then the No.7 batting slot is weakened.

 

3.   Every teams wants a high SR batter at No.7 who can start hitting from ball one.  This is because ...  usually he has to come in at the fag end of the innings with only a few balls left.   And has to play 30 off 22 balls type innings rather than 70 off 78 balls type innings.

 

The requirement of the No.7 slot is different and a classical batsmen won't do.  A high SR slogger is needed who can bowl atleast 8 overs in ODIs and 4 overs in T20s.

Edited November 13, 2018 by express bowling

[rkt.india]

He is playing a 5th bowler, someone who can bat and bowl both and is a handy player for LOIs.  You cant afford a specialist bats or a specialist bowler at 7.  So you need someone like him at that number.  Regarding people talking about  Jadeja who is at best a #8 and not #7.  If Jadeja has to play, he will have to play in place of someone batting at 8-11 at least LOIs and it is not like Jadeja is indispensable even as a bowler.  

[Ankit_sharma03]

5 hours ago, Khota said:

Any proper batsman. Even Shaw would be fine.

No he wnt work, their is a diff hitting in powerplay and death overs

their is a diff between hitting a new ball that comes better on bat then an old ball 

 

And u do understand the massive role diff that shaw will struggle batting from open to 7 

 

Power hitting is also a special skill and not everyone can come n do that from ball 1, which is why Raina was valued so highly for many yrs despite being xtremely inconsistent and found wanting in many areas. Even The likes of Rohit cnt go hitting from ball 1

 

and currently their is none better then hardik in this country who can do the power hitting job and it is also a specialist job , i dnt knw why its is so looked down upon

 

Edited November 13, 2018 by Ankit_sharma03

[Ankit_sharma03]

14 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Just because there's no availability of petrol, I am not someone who will start using kerosene for my car. There are some who apply that rule. 

 

Secondly, nobody needs your validation on what words to use to prove their point. And if I am already proving my point, why is it so much of a pain to you? Keep it to yourself, dont try to moderate my posts, you are not the dictator here. So the next time, choose your words wisely and dont try to tell people what they can and cant say!

 

The ' best allrounders' is not such a tag to be used so loosely on someone. It carries some weight. However, if your standards are low, I wouldnt blame you. 

 

Cheers!

 

 

tumhari gaadi dhaakka maar ke bhi chal jayegi

But this indian team needs 2 all rounders for balance which is what pandya bros are 

We have wasted yrs with jadeja before and xar wnt hve done much diff either 

 

Someone like n dislike is not related to teams problem

 

Teams problems

1. power hitter- hardik answers that

2. 6th batsman who can bowl regulalry, hit as well - Krunal ( now ull say jadhav, his lollipops will be figured out soon, in deodhar everyone smashed him)

3. Seam bowling all rounder- hardik answers that 

 

Liking and disliking are not the solutions

[Khota]

8 hours ago, express bowling said:

 

1.  In LOIs,  5 bowlers are needed because of over restrictions per bowler.  So,  7 specialist batsmen cannot be played.  So, how can Shaw replace Krunal  ?

 

2.   If a 5th specialist bowler is chosen then the No.7 batting slot is weakened.

 

3.   Every teams wants a high SR batter at No.7 who can start hitting from ball one.  This is because ...  usually he has to come in at the fag end of the innings with only a few balls left.   And has to play 30 off 22 balls type innings rather than 70 off 78 balls type innings.

 

The requirement of the No.7 slot is different and a classical batsmen won't do.  A high SR slogger is needed who can bowl atleast 8 overs in ODIs and 4 overs in T20s.

 

6 hours ago, rkt.india said:

He is playing a 5th bowler, someone who can bat and bowl both and is a handy player for LOIs.  You cant afford a specialist bats or a specialist bowler at 7.  So you need someone like him at that number.  Regarding people talking about  Jadeja who is at best a #8 and not #7.  If Jadeja has to play, he will have to play in place of someone batting at 8-11 at least LOIs and it is not like Jadeja is indispensable even as a bowler.  

 

6 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

No he wnt work, their is a diff hitting in powerplay and death overs

their is a diff between hitting a new ball that comes better on bat then an old ball 

 

And u do understand the massive role diff that shaw will struggle batting from open to 7 

 

Power hitting is also a special skill and not everyone can come n do that from ball 1, which is why Raina was valued so highly for many yrs despite being xtremely inconsistent and found wanting in many areas. Even The likes of Rohit cnt go hitting from ball 1

 

and currently their is none better then hardik in this country who can do the power hitting job and it is also a specialist job , i dnt knw why its is so looked down upon

 

This is a hybrid approach. If a team makes a determination that they need five bowlers then it has to be a proper bowler. In t20 six bats are enough. You need 5 bowlers who can choke the runs.

 

Hybrid approach with half bowler and half batsman seldom works.

[express bowling]

8 minutes ago, Khota said:

 

 

This is a hybrid approach. If a team makes a determination that they need five bowlers then it has to be a proper bowler. In t20 six bats are enough. You need 5 bowlers who can choke the runs.

 

Hybrid approach with half bowler and half batsman seldom works.

 

Which successful T20 team has played 5 proper bowlers with any regularity   (  none of whom qualify as a high SR batter )   ?

[putrevus]

21 hours ago, Rightarmfast said:

Just because there's no availability of petrol, I am not someone who will start using kerosene for my car. There are some who apply that rule. 

 

Secondly, nobody needs your validation on what words to use to prove their point. And if I am already proving my point, why is it so much of a pain to you? Keep it to yourself, dont try to moderate my posts, you are not the dictator here. So the next time, choose your words wisely and dont try to tell people what they can and cant say!

 

The ' best allrounders' is not such a tag to be used so loosely on someone. It carries some weight. However, if your standards are low, I wouldnt blame you. 

 

Cheers!

 

 

Spot on, there is no spot for an allrounder in the team unless they justify their spot either as a bowler or batsman first.

 

This allrounder tag nonsense some people are using  to cover for bits and pieces players who take team no where.

[Khota]

40 minutes ago, express bowling said:

 

Which successful T20 team has played 5 proper bowlers with any regularity   (  none of whom qualify as a high SR batter )   ?

Just because it is not done right gives it legitimacy? This Pandya would be another wasted experiment.

[express bowling]

1 hour ago, Khota said:

Just because it is not done right gives it legitimacy? This Pandya would be another wasted experiment.

 

It is not done because it does not work.

 

People in charge of all the good teams can't be fools.

 

Pandya does not matter as an individual.  If  he goes, another guy who can both bat and bowl will be needed.

[Ankit_sharma03]

2 hours ago, Khota said:

 

 

This is a hybrid approach. If a team makes a determination that they need five bowlers then it has to be a proper bowler. In t20 six bats are enough. You need 5 bowlers who can choke the runs.

 

 

 

 

 

Hybrid approach with half bowler and half batsman seldom works.

Hardik has a good eco acc to modern day cricket , what more choking u want 

We had jadeja play for many many yrs , he use to be a tight bowler but absolute poor with bat as a result we lost so many games 

 

1 hour ago, Khota said:

Just because it is not done right gives it legitimacy? This Pandya would be another wasted experiment.

We hve tried this n failed

how is it done right???? their is no proof of this theory working well ...

 

Unless u hve absolute world class atg 4 bowlers + few part timers , playing  7 batsman wnt work

Unless u hve 6 gun ATG consistent batsman, playing 5 bowlers wnt work + ull still need 1-2 part timers 

[zen]

Ideally, in the 11 we need -> 4 specialist batsmen + 1 WK who can bat + 2 ARs/Handy players + 4 bowlers 

 

if we consider the WK who can bat too as an AR, we need 3 ARs/Handy cricketers in the 11 to give us the required depth and breadth -> 4+3+4

Edited November 13, 2018 by zen