diga Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Next step is to curb the growth of urban naxals... Different idealogies and perspectives are fine but not at the cost of progress sergio04, velu, adi B and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, cowboysfan said: the muftis and abbullahs wont just let this go and saying nothing of the separatists,they are just not going to keep this a Kashmir issue now. Lok Sabha passes the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Amendment Bill That was for Them. Government can take care of them case by case basis velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Hats off to Modi to have the courage and balls to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helperononline Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Good move by government with eye on Maharashtra and haryana state election next month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I don't understand why is Pakistan so fussed about it.kashmir is part of India and Indian govt has every right to do what it feels is the best way to stop that bloody violence in that region. velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 29 minutes ago, putrevus said: I don't understand why is Pakistan so fussed about it.kashmir is part of India and Indian govt has every right to do what it feels is the best way to stop that bloody violence in that region. Exactly, they snatched their part of Kashmir and better focus there. Invite Mark Wiens and other phirangis who give a false impression of safety in Pakistan to Gilgit area and derive your satisfaction from there. sandeep and velu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, sarchasm said: Expect this to be challenged in SC. FWIW, Article 370 has not been abrogated, that would have called for a constitutional amendment. The government has brought about this presidential notification by invoking Clause 3 of Art. 370. This notification only needs to be ratified by a simple majority in both houses of the parliament. So Article 370 stands but voided of its contentious content. An amendment was moved earlier by the GoI that vested the power in the Parliament to act in lieu and with all the powers of J&K State Constituent Assembly - a body that has long ceased to exist. This amendment was passed in both the house with majority and has not been questioned since - but that's probably because the opposition or anyone else did NOT see the long term plan of Modi. So the question before our activist milords shall be whether the amendment introduced via the bill (call it a trojan horse) to provide for reservations in J&K constitutionally valid or not. On Twitter I have been disappointed to see the interpretation adopted by a few of my teachers and colleagues. after world wars lots of land borders where changed, political process at special times are sub servient to what dominant majority wants. What is true is that when a teen from Kashmir can be given 500 rs to become a stone pelter and scores of them pick that up its time for change. anyway 303 to 362 how will BJP get there if there has to be a constitutional amendment, that is the next interesting question. Wish BJP got 362 seats, they will get it next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, MechEng said: Exactly, they snatched their part of Kashmir and better focus there. Invite Mark Wiens and other phirangis who give a false impression of safety in Pakistan to Gilgit area and derive your satisfaction from there. The so called PoK has its own Prime Minister. India has resolved Internal legal wrangling. Now it needs to put in place them terrorist. Next step would be for bilaterl talk between PM of PoK and India. Kashmir , whole of it was signed to India. Pakistan has occupied it by force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, mishra said: The so called PoK has its own Prime Minister. India has resolved Internal legal wrangling. Now it needs to put in place them terrorist. Next step would be for bilaterl talk between PM of PoK and India. Kashmir , whole of it was signed to India. Pakistan has occupied it by force. That should be a priority much further in future. For now it's about having a strong foundation in J&K, it's a game of chess one step at a time. sandeep and mishra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, MechEng said: That should be a priority much further in future. For now it's about having a strong foundation in J&K, it's a game of chess one step at a time. Spot on talking about POK now will be jumping the gun.Let healing process begin first. mishra, sergio04 and MechEng 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 How did this woman Mufti become CM.She is talking as if Kashmir was her grandfather's property.No wonder the Kashmir issue never got solved under leaderships of Muftis and Abdullahs.They made Kashmir into their own property. Stradlater and sandeep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, putrevus said: How did this woman Mufti become CM.She is talking as if Kashmir was her grandfather's property.No wonder the Kashmir issue never got solved under leaderships of Muftis and Abdullahs.They made Kashmir into their own property. It is actually. Abdullah Lone and Mufti own it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putrevus Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 minute ago, mishra said: It is actually. Abdullah Lone and Mufti own it Sorry , I did not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turning_track Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This thread shows a glimpse of what was brewing behind the scenes since the onset of President's rule in Kashmir. The fax fiasco last year between the governer & the parties truly makes sense now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 hours ago, sarchasm said: Why hasn't riots broken out already? because law and order is with center, nothing will blow up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velu Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 what happened to rahul gandhi ? looks like he is on a vacation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, sarchasm said: Expect this to be challenged in SC. FWIW, Article 370 has not been abrogated, that would have called for a constitutional amendment. The government has brought about this presidential notification by invoking Clause 3 of Art. 370. This notification only needs to be ratified by a simple majority in both houses of the parliament. So Article 370 stands but voided of its contentious content. An amendment was moved earlier by the GoI that vested the power in the Parliament to act in lieu and with all the powers of J&K State Constituent Assembly - a body that has long ceased to exist. This amendment was passed in both the house with majority and has not been questioned since - but that's probably because the opposition or anyone else did NOT see the long term plan of Modi. So the question before our activist milords shall be whether the amendment introduced via the bill (call it a trojan horse) to provide for reservations in J&K constitutionally valid or not. On Twitter I have been disappointed to see the interpretation adopted by a few of my teachers and colleagues. Can an Article be amended by way of a Presidential Order under Article 370 (1) (d) and a whole new clause be inserted solely because the clause is limited in its application to the State of Jammu & Kashmir? Could this be an issue in case the Executive Order is challenged before a Constitutional court? Edited August 5, 2019 by Mariyam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariyam Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 hours ago, sarchasm said: Above all, this was a moral duty of the Indian state. Imagine this, a kashmiri pandit girl, living in exile in delhi, marries a so-called non kashmiri citizen and loses all rights to property back home. Why go that far. Farooq Abdulla's daughter relinquished all rights to her ancestral property once she married Sachin Pilot. Twas a highly discriminatory piece of legislation that should have had no place in the Indian society. Stradlater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Vilander said: because law and order is with center, nothing will blow up now. Eternal words of brave son of India, Shri ajit doval. “Itihaas ke nirnay hamesha uske paksh mein gaya hain joh shaktishaali tha” Vilander, someone and sergio04 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krupaksk Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 Congrats to all Indians, long awaited move delayed by spineless leaders. Kashmiris - welcome to the law of our land, It’s not that bad. We are in 21sr century. See you soon there. Jai Hind!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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