mishra Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Duplicate Edited August 16, 2019 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Classic response by a jihadi to Pak Army mishra, sergio04 and Epic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 27 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Classic response by a jihadi to Pak Army What did he say ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epic Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 33 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Classic response by a jihadi to Pak Army Probably the best response I've heard lol. Full of wit and humor. Classy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Norman said: What did he say ? When asked if he would wage a jihad in Kashmir, he said, "A lot of us are already martyred, we would like other brothers to become shaheed, we are not that selfish to grab all the chances. Also, to fight wars, we have a 7-8 lakh army, wr pay taxes for that. We don't have modern weapons, tanks, for waging wars, but they do. We will definitely request the army to fight a war in Kashmir" Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Bhaiyya, chewy and Laaloo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 By creating fake news and forcing their ministers to spam them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) ^ Date, time, cause doesn’t matter, as above video , as per Lahori logic still, qualifies as reason for some teenager to blow up himself to kill Hindus Edited August 20, 2019 by mishra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted August 22, 2019 Author Share Posted August 22, 2019 Lot of rumblings of PAF exercises, artillery exercises being carried out by PakMil. Greenbros can't afford to respond only with Immy's frustrated rants. GoI's admin reorg has one counter-productive consequence - it has re-introduced the 'dispute' to the int'l community and news cycle. It will be in Pakistani interest to sustain that media interest. They cannot rely solely on Kashmiri 'protests' to sustain that interest. They need more than that. They also are in desperate need of some action that can be touted as a 'win'. Even if its a single post. This is the only play they have. Diplomatically they have already failed, militarily they have no shot at taking territory from India. The only long-shot hope they have, is to keep stirring the pot, make it a 'hot' dispute that the int'l community feels forced to intervene in. And anytime a 3rd party intervenes, its human nature to try and throw a bone to "both sides". For this to happen, the dispute has to heat up considerably in the news cycle and stay there. Whenever it is finally done, it will most likely be planned as a quick raid that seizes some sliver of territory or posts along the LoC. Think "surgical strike" but exponentially larger. To increase the odds of success, they have to select spot(s) where they have the advantage of terrain, as well as some level of 'surprise'. The latter is the reason why they haven't done it already. The former is not something that us laymen would have information on. There have been reports of PakMil beefing up its personnel along Sir Creek - another disputed area where PakMil could potentially try a landgrab Op - or it could just be a feint. Given the geography of Sir Creek, the difficulties of holding on to any seized territory against the inevitable Indian response make it unlikely. The skirmish has to in the J&K theatre. PakMil's credibility depends on it. Ask yourself the question - why is Imran continuing the public rants - not just on twitter, but also in interviews? As tempting as it is to believe that Imran's public statements are the rants of a frustrated impotent 'leader', it doesn't pass the logic test. All he's doing is burning diplomatic bridges with India, and risks looking silly. There is only one logical reason under which this makes sense - he's under instructions from PakMil to lay the media groundwork for the skirmish. They know they cannot afford another Kargil in the eyes of the world - i.e. a conflict where the world concludes that Pakistan was the aggressor. They badly need to be seen as reacting. By constantly badmouthing Modi, claiming that India will launch "false flag ops" etc, they are attempting to set the stage to argue that they are the weaker party who aren't looking to stir up trouble, and its all big bad India's fault. No matter how well the Indian army prepares for this, it is logically impossible to guarantee foolproof defense along mountainous terrain, especially in locales where the terrain confers non-trivial advantage to the aggressor. I hope the IA has contingency plans in place to retaliate quickly and grab a reciprocal slice back from Pak, when the PakMil initiates conflict. Regardless whether PakMil succeed in grabbing posts or not, IA should definitely use the conflict as a chance to inflict punishment by ensuring that the net outcome of the skirmish results in PakMil losing territory, not gaining it. Mariyam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1. Intelligence agencies say about 100 Afghan terrorists are recruited to cross LoC 2. Recruitment/Enrolment centre are back and functioning openly to for enrolling new Jihadi for Kashmiri cause 3. About 2 doz n plus on border waiting to cross. And thats why so much shelling is going on. my take: lets not stop shelling when they stop. They may have succeded in infiltrating terrorist but they should bear the cost Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, mishra said: 1. Intelligence agencies say about 100 Afghan terrorists are recruited to cross LoC 2. Recruitment/Enrolment centre are back and functioning openly to for enrolling new Jihadi for Kashmiri cause 3. About 2 doz n plus on border waiting to cross. And thats why so much shelling is going on. my take: lets not stop shelling when they stop. They may have succeded in infiltrating terrorist but they should bear the cost Cowardly Pak military can only do these stunts, never ever engage in direct conflict with us. Not just them jihad/mujahideen/ shahadat is a time tested method for followers of ROP. Be it Kashmir, Chechnya, Nigeria, Kenya, Mindanao, China, Europe and 10000 other places these barbarians whenever in conflict (or no conflict) can only resort to treacherous tactics first designed by their own "holy" Prophet who ordered massacre of innocent Jews (read up 'Banu Qurayza genocide'). Ghastly people following a ghastly desert cult not fit to be allowed to function (forget thrive) in 2019. Sooner or later a war will erupt in the world which will pit the Muslims against rest of humanity. Let the West Asians run out of oil, then the fun will begin. With every move the Muslims are hastening their own end, world will be a better place without them. Apologies to the (minority) sensible Muslims (and those who would be branded non-Muslims as per teachings of their own book) but fault lies in the religion and it can not be reformed. Christianity, Hinduism too had evil parts but after centuries of reforms they don't represent a threat to humanity, but they say green book is final word of God and can never be questioned. So be it, planet has already suffered a lot because of that crazy death cult, patience isn't infinite and Muslims don't have the firepower/resources to resist their termination. Edited August 23, 2019 by Gollum randomGuy, mishra, chewy and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) To know the mind of an average PakMil supporter (basically every Pakistani and their sympathizers in India) check out their threads on PDF You can never compromise with evil, an evil whose only motivation is your destruction. Basically the teachings of Koran as far as kafirs are concerned. How much longer must we bleed? Edited August 23, 2019 by Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cliff Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 40 minutes ago, Gollum said: Cowardly Pak military can only do these stunts, never ever engage in direct conflict with us. Not just them jihad/mujahideen/ shahadat is a time tested method for followers of ROP. Be it Kashmir, Chechnya, Nigeria, Kenya, Mindanao, China, Europe and 10000 other places these low lives whenever in conflict (or no conflict) can only resort to treacherous tactics first designed by their own "holy" Prophet who ordered massacre of innocent Jews (read up 'Banu Qurayza genocide'). Ghastly people following a ghastly desert cult not fit to be allowed to function (forget thrive) in 2019. Sooner or later a war will erupt in the world which will pit the Muslims against rest of humanity. Let the West Asians run out of oil, then the fun will begin. With every move the Muslims are hastening their own end, world will be a better place without them. Apologies to the (minority) sensible Muslims (and those who would be branded non-Muslims as per teachings of their own book) but fault lies in the religion and it can not be reformed. Christianity, Hinduism too had evil parts but after centuries of reforms they don't represent a threat to humanity, but they say green book is final word of God and can never be questioned. So be it, planet has already suffered a lot because of that crazy death cult, patience isn't infinite and Muslims don't have the firepower/resources to resist their termination. One kaanspiracy theory says that Islamists are a tool/useful idiots for Globalists to unleash conflicts/chaos across the world which eventually leads to WWIII which in turn leads to a New World Order (NWO) with a One World Government which is what the Globalists want. The MSM is in on it as well as it is Globalist backed. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 6 hours ago, mishra said: my take: lets not stop shelling when they stop. They may have succeded in infiltrating terrorist but they should bear the cost For the last couple of years, its the IA that has been heating up the LoC, not just the greenbros trying to push in "volunteers". Its the policy of dishing out actual consequences to the PakMil for their shenanigans. With unhesitating and unambiguous steady escalation for their actions - surgical strikes, balakot - regardless of the 'score' of how many volunteers were sent off to heaven, its the discrete signaling that's more important. PakMil today knows that the current administration is unafraid and unhesitant in retaliating when non-state actors 'act' on their behalf. Plausible deniability be damned. That's the reason why PakMil has been forced to sit on their hands so far after a370. It doesn't matter how many trees or crows were hit in Balakot - the message is still ringing in their ears. From now on, a price will be exacted. Publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 ^ i think you made a point which makes you think why the so called Educated, progressive western Muslim Journalists of Western outlet like cnn bbc NYT, ft , who know the reality don’t argue and put real facts to the world that, Indpendent Kashmiri constitution was Essentially inhuman and unequal. A independent Kashmiri State CM was involved in direct act of religious persecution, promoting terrorism, involved in ethnic cleansing and was providing Financial Insurance to any Kashmiri terrorist, who while killing Hindus, got caught or gunned down by Central Forces. Not even one Muslim jounalist of these big media houses Questioned old Kashmiri autonomous system leaders and argued that it was real evil Which has been killing Hindus since 1988 and protecting terrorists for past 30 years. So to me, yes, Islamic followers wont change a bit, no matter whats There upbringing Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 On 8/14/2019 at 1:59 PM, chewy said: World's biggest Terrorist group You misunderstand them. They are businessmen - in the business of exploiting the greenbro awaam. Terrorism is not their goal or primary activity, its just a tool. As long as they keep the awaam addicted to the 'hate India' drug, they can keep exploiting them dry. chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 ^ @Gollum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, sandeep said: You misunderstand them. They are businessmen - in the business of exploiting the greenbro awaam. Terrorism is not their goal or primary activity, its just a tool. As long as they keep the awaam addicted to the 'hate India' drug, they can keep exploiting them dry. Of course money element is big, but there is fundamental hatred of 'Hindus', not Indians but Hindus within PakMil establishment. I am pretty sure there must heavy religious brainwashing in Pak army training camps. And for them killing of armed or unarmed civilian Hindu is all fair game. Gollum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vayuu1 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Akhand nhi akhandtam chewtiye bolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
someone Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 They are just behaving like another Indian political party, abusing Modi and Hindus. They should just merge with India. For some, that would mean Akhand Bharat. While, for others their dream for majority Muslim would be close, and thus the end of Modi rule... That could be only solution... MechEng 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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