Why Rishabh Pant is targeted

[vvvslaxman]

7 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

harsh to drop him from any format.....once u get a talent like n if he cannot be backed well then no one wud be. 

Cricketers take a lot of time to evolve - dnt forget yuvi, rohit, zak took 5-7 yrs 

DK showed more potential than Rohit sharma at the start.  If we are talking about limited overs Pant is not even 30% of what Yuvraj was.  At 18 he was toying with Australian bowling.

 

Pant batting style cannot be equated with Rohit sharma's or Yuvraj's. He has some limitations despite having the ability to muscle the ball over even while mistiming. He is relying too much on power than timing like Rohit or Yuvraj. There is a reason why he loses shape more often than not while playing shots and losing balance.  He also has issues with placing the ball. 

[Ankit_sharma03]

14 minutes ago, vvvslaxman said:

DK showed more potential than Rohit sharma at the start.  If we are talking about limited overs Pant is not even 30% of what Yuvraj was.  At 18 he was toying with Australian bowling.

N what happened after that he was brutually exposed against spinners.....he failed for god knows how long

ur saying Pant hasnt showed his talent by smashing two 100s that to overseas 

 

Yuvi was just good in those 1-2 intial games after that he was struggling left right centre.....around 60-70 games he didnt even cross 30 avg 

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Pant batting style cannot be equated with Rohit sharma's or Yuvraj's.

Nope his talent is .....their batting styles are not that similar

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He has some limitations despite having the ability to muscle the ball over even while mistiming.

 he is a much evolved batsman then how yuvraj was.....yuvraj was as bad against spin at start as rayudu was against pace. 

Pant has no such big weakness 

Rohit struggle against movement is knwn to everyone, pant looked most comfortable in semi final, he already has 2 100s overseas in test a feat rohit is yet to achieve 

 

So Pant in his career at this point is better then those 2 were 

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He is relying too much on power than timing like Rohit or Yuvraj. There is a reason why he loses shape more often than not while playing shots and losing balance.  He also has issues with placing the ball. 

Loosing shape is also due to innovative shots.....rohit n yuvi didnt have to play t20 while growing up much. Even those 2 have gotten in very awkward positions at there time. Rohit must have played his 1st t20 when he was 18-19......and t20 was very new. But when pant wud have been 10-12 t20 was far evolved so these kids wud have seen n tried alot. Even ishan kishen has similar issues

Edited November 9, 2019 by Ankit_sharma03

[vvvslaxman]

I am strictly talking about limited overs. In Tests i have no issues. I won't stick out my neck and say there is absolutely nobody better than among the younger lot than Pant in limited overs. That is highly debatable. Gill, Manjot Kalra, Shaw, Easwaran are all better than him. If KL Rahul is able to keep Pant as a pure batsman is below these guys.

Edited November 9, 2019 by vvvslaxman

[Ankit_sharma03]

1 minute ago, vvvslaxman said:

I am strictly talking about limited overs. In Tests i have no issues. I won't stick out my neck and say there is absolutely nobody better than among the younger lot than Pant in limited overs. That is highly debatable. Gill, Manjot Kalra, Shaw, Easwaran are all better than him. If KL Rahul is able to keep Pant as a pure batsman is below these guys.

In LOI we also have to understand the pressure he came in replacing dhoni .....Public go crazy after every failure which puts him in 2 mind and LOI has time pressure which test doesnt. TM also expects him to be like dhoni which is wrong on him....in test he has no such pressure. At the end it pressure that makes all the diff

 

manjot kalra who is not even a regular in delhi side or ipl side is better then pant ???

easwaran....seriosusly ?

Shaw n gill n other are not even keeper so why competition

Everyone who is not playing looks good until they play and the other who gets dropped starts to look better 

 

KL shud concentrate on his batting, keeping is a specialist job . 

[vvvslaxman]

3 hours ago, Ankit_sharma03 said:

In LOI we also have to understand the pressure he came in replacing dhoni .....Public go crazy after every failure which puts him in 2 mind and LOI has time pressure which test doesnt. TM also expects him to be like dhoni which is wrong on him....in test he has no such pressure. At the end it pressure that makes all the diff

 

manjot kalra who is not even a regular in delhi side or ipl side is better then pant ???

easwaran....seriosusly ?

Shaw n gill n other are not even keeper so why competition

Everyone who is not playing looks good until they play and the other who gets dropped starts to look better 

 

KL shud concentrate on his batting, keeping is a specialist job . 

Didn't he play as a specialist batsman in the world cup ahead of many genuine batsmen?I  So obviously he is in the side not purely for his keeping but for his batting ability. So expectation level is going to be higher. Manner of his dismissals will be scrutinized regardless of his age or who he replaces.

 Pretty much the same sentiments were echoed when KL Rahul was failing. Nobody wants him to fail. But when he fails he cannot escape scrutiny. As a player he has to overcome.  He is not a novice in T20. He has played close to 100 T20 games. 20 plus in international. Applicable for all youngsters. There will be questions raised because of competition. Everybody went through that phase. Rohit, Robin Uthappa, Abhinav Mukund. It is nothing new.

[Frustrated]

10 hours ago, Vijy said:

Afridi has 1 test century in WI and none in SENA. And he has 0 ODI centuries in SENA. and all this over a nearly 20-yr career as an international cricketer.

 

Pant has 2 test centuries in SENA and 0 in ODIs in about 2 yrs.

 

 

 

Not sure if Pant would ever make a test century in WI.  He looked like headless chicken against the half decent Windies pace bowlers.

Ishant Sharma looked more assured with the bat than Pant in the entire Windies test tour.

 

Also, Pant's overall batting approach (across all formats) resembles brainless 'Afridi', if not any worse. 

 

Those 2 Test centures (of Pant) in SENA were built on a strong platform made by Kohli and Pujara.  He was under no pressure to build an inning.

Pant's Strike Rate of just 119 after having played 22  t20 matches is not acceptable. Its worse than Dhawan (who is an opener)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tweaker]

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/bcci-chief-sourav-ganguly-opens-up-on-rishabh-pants-failures-during-india-bangladesh-t20is/513184

 

BCCI chief and former skipper Sourav Ganguly came in support of Pant and told PTI, "He's a superb player. Give Rishabh Pant time, he will be fine. He will mature slowly, you have to give him time. India played really well last night."

[Suhaan]

35 minutes ago, tweaker said:

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/cricket/article/bcci-chief-sourav-ganguly-opens-up-on-rishabh-pants-failures-during-india-bangladesh-t20is/513184

 

BCCI chief and former skipper Sourav Ganguly came in support of Pant and told PTI, "He's a superb player. Give Rishabh Pant time, he will be fine. He will mature slowly, you have to give him time. India played really well last night."

Ganguly should be well aware of the potential this guy posses he must be drawing similarity with Sehwag and how he handled Sehwag and sacrificed his opening slot for a demolition man like Sehwag,i hope he has eye for this talent too,its not like this guy has not sweated it out in domestics,need patience for players like Pant,the lineup is already so pragmatic and methodical

[CommonMan]

Bump

[Frustrated]

Another match winning knock by Pant under very tough condition today.  

 

With this knock, he has ensured that Samson will not get into the t20 team.

 

[Real McCoy]

Pant may be targeted but what matters is performance. If he continues this form, we have to look at other opportunities. As they guy above mentioned Samson could be used. Or KLR can keep. Just add another batsman to the squad. Pant needs to sort out all this noise quickly if not he may lose his place. Its a tough world out there. Pant should know he is not in the honeymoon period right now. He is in the wife acting like a b1atch period now

[Rasgulla]

 Failed again. I guess it's not his fault. 

[Frustrated]

[prudent_kreeda]

His  form has  gone bad . There is no timing  , no confident  powerful shots .

Guy should play all the matches of SMA  for Delhi as he is not going to be playing in tests .

In fact TM should release him right away to play domestics  to stop further loss of confidence.   

[vvvslaxman]

34 minutes ago, prudent_kreeda said:

His  form has  gone bad . There is no timing  , no confident  powerful shots .

Guy should play all the matches of SMA  for Delhi as he is not going to be playing in tests .

In fact TM should release him right away to play domestics  to stop further loss of confidence.   

This is something players should learn from Ashwin. Whenever getting a chance taking part in any form of the game. Ash takes even TNPL games seriously lol

[Rasgulla]

[shortbread]

Needs a couple of years in domestics an fix his game. The team also needs to groom alternatives, Pant is not a permanent fix.

[Rasgulla]

Brillant innings of 12 and 4. Couldn't ask more from a Youngster  

 

Missed 2 or 3 with keeping but it's all good! Best keeper that ever lived. 

[raki05]

1 hour ago, Rasgulla said:

Brillant innings of 12 and 4. Couldn't ask more from a Youngster  

 

Missed 2 or 3 with keeping but it's all good! Best keeper that ever lived. 

Keep crying dhoni is restricted to csk and jharkhandi xi.

[Rasgulla]

2 minutes ago, raki05 said:

Keep crying dhoni is restricted to csk and jharkhandi xi.

Dude i know you ll jump off a bridge if he returns. Just pray if doesn't do well in IPL. That's the max you can do...