vayuu1 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, someone said: In SS, There is not enough a single revolt, forget mass revolt. So they are not losing anything. They are now purified and will lead the fight against BJP. That is where you are mistaken, they may lead the fight Now, but ultimately it's the voters that are the key that is the Sena voters, how they will take this backstabbing is the main point, I can see Sena getting "Raut"ed in election for ultimately dumping the cause. Edited November 27, 2019 by vayuu1
Pratik77 Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 10 hours ago, someone said: In SS, There is not enough a single revolt, forget mass revolt. So they are not losing anything. They are now purified and will lead the fight against BJP. What purified lol...they will hve hard time going without BJP as alliance partner... Suhaan 1
coffee_rules Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 52 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: That is where you are mistaken, they may lead the fight Now, but ultimately it's the voters that are the key that is the Sena voters, how they will take this backstabbing is the main point, I can see Sena getting "Raut"ed in election for ultimately dumping the cause. Spoken to relatives from Mumbai, word on Mumbai streets about Sonia Sena is true, but BJP also looked desperate to grab power aligning with the same guy they campaigned against. They have also lost face but in a year people will forget and BJP can do something about it.
vayuu1 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, coffee_rules said: Spoken to relatives from Mumbai, word on Mumbai streets about Sonia Sena is true, but BJP also looked desperate to grab power aligning with the same guy they campaigned against. They have also lost face but in a year people will forget and BJP can do something about it. See the thing is bjp went for the power and rightly so coz the top leader of ncp came to them with support,do you really think people will be so naive to forget what happened during this 1 month, how the alliance was busy sheliding it's mla, into five stars forget that ,Sena can't go back to its hindutva model again.
Stan AF Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 19 hours ago, Lannister said: Slipper shots to dirty duo at the centre. Now wait for Karnataka bypolls. They will be doing puja to Kumar annas feet. You sure about that?. How many seats does BJP need to win to form government now??
someone Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, vayuu1 said: That is where you are mistaken, they may lead the fight Now, but ultimately it's the voters that are the key that is the Sena voters, how they will take this backstabbing is the main point, I can see Sena getting "Raut"ed in election for ultimately dumping the cause. Only one certain “minority “ community/votebank works tactical, and at all costs aim to defeat BJP. so be it RJD/JDU or SP/BSP and now this trio, these unholy alliance will get cross votes easily. Now, unless its Modi is center figure, BJP is gonna struggle big time if SP/BSP comes together in UP 2022...
someone Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Pratik77 said: What purified lol...they will hve hard time going without BJP as alliance partner... Have you been watching the news? Already seeing idoit statements how SS is secular but was communal only because of its BJP alliance. we talk about SS voters, but where is the Muslim revolt? No party loses a single minority vote as long they bash BJP. And thats SS incentive. They now have a new permanent votebank.
Stan AF Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Mariyam, Turning_track, Singh bling and 2 others 5
Mariyam Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, someone said: Only one certain “minority “ community/votebank works tactical, and at all costs aim to defeat BJP. so be it RJD/JDU or SP/BSP and now this trio, these unholy alliance will get cross votes easily. Now, unless its Modi is center figure, BJP is gonna struggle big time if SP/BSP comes together in UP 2022... Why do you say that? The situation in Maharashtra has nothing to do with the supposed tactical voting. It is a mad rush for power and in spite of the NDA having maximum seats in the assembly, the BJP couldn't reach any kind of an agreement with the SS.
mishra Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 2 hours ago, someone said: Only one certain “minority “ community/votebank works tactical, and at all costs aim to defeat BJP. so be it RJD/JDU or SP/BSP and now this trio, these unholy alliance will get cross votes easily. Now, unless its Modi is center figure, BJP is gonna struggle big time if SP/BSP comes together in UP 2022... SP BSP Congress, everyone came together last election in UP.
Lannister Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Stan AF said: You sure about that?. How many seats does BJP need to win to form government now?? 7/8 out of 17.
vayuu1 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Posted November 27, 2019 News coming in ncp demanding 2.5 yr CM randomGuy 1
someone Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, mishra said: SP BSP Congress, everyone came together last election in UP. And that election was about with Modi or without. State elections are different, and thus, the caste matrix and 100% Muslim consolidation, means opposition has huge headstart....
someone Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Mariyam said: Why do you say that? The situation in Maharashtra has nothing to do with the supposed tactical voting. It is a mad rush for power and in spite of the NDA having maximum seats in the assembly, the BJP couldn't reach any kind of an agreement with the SS. What will be it take for Muslims to stop voting Congress alliance? There is no answer, as they will keep voting for them as long as the main opponent is BJP. Now, SS is added to this alliance. Thus, why I said one community is 100% driven by tactical voting.
randomGuy Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 Marathi chewtiyas did give SS substantial number of seats even when it contested elections against BJP. That was why bjp had to ally with SS again in the first place.
Gollum Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Marathi chewtiyas did give SS substantial number of seats even when it contested elections against BJP. That was why bjp had to ally with SS again in the first place. Why are they chewtiyas? SS always had a base in the state, won't go away so quickly.
randomGuy Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gollum said: Why are they chewtiyas? SS always had a base in the state, won't go away so quickly. Maybe won't go away at all... It will move away from hindutva to completely marathi identity politics...somewhat like tmc in bangal, dmk in TN. Edited November 27, 2019 by randomGuy
Singh bling Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Maybe won't go away at all... It will move away from hindutva to completely marathi identity politics...somewhat like tmc in bangal, dmk in TN. Maharashtra already has secular regional party NCP. Its difficult for a party that was named after Shivaji to breakaway from hindutva as Shivaji one of few king during mughal time who successfully revolted against mughals. He is considered as saviour of hindu's.
randomGuy Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Singh bling said: Maharashtra already has secular regional party NCP. Its difficult for a party that was named after Shivaji to breakaway from hindutva as Shivaji one of few king during mughal time who successfully revolted against mughals. He is considered as saviour of hindu's. All this depends on situation...like Momota also says beware of Muslim extremists when owaisi decides to come to WB...she will also say 'maa mati manush' whatever the f that means...Sanjay Raut also says 'this is not some other state, this is Maharashtra'.
Gollum Posted November 27, 2019 Posted November 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Maybe won't go away at all... It will move away from hindutva to completely marathi identity politics...somewhat like tmc in bangal, dmk in TN. I think in the long term BJP will gain in terms of voteshare, just have to be patient.
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