Gollum Posted December 20, 2019 Author Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) NDA shrinking, ghanta (Gandhi-Vadra) Congress mukt Bharat. Jharkhand election was so low-key. Edited December 20, 2019 by Gollum speedheat 1
Singh bling Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 JMM plus 46 BJP 24 So called Chanakya committed major blunders like giving Non tribal CM, no alliance with AJSU .
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 Lol another state gone. Indian public isn't stupid, this GE Jharkhandis voted heavily in favor of BJP and now humiliation.Sent from my SM-G350E using Tapatalk
mishra Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 BJP state units are consistently proving useless. Anti incumbency or whatever, but despite that, people dont want to vote Congress, But they want a alternative
Stan AF Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Gollum said: Lol another state gone. Indian public isn't stupid, this GE Jharkhandis voted heavily in favor of BJP and now humiliation. Sent from my SM-G350E using Tapatalk I can't understand how different state people can go from 0 or few seats to congress alliance to giving state governments power in just a matter of 6 months. Same in Haryana congress got zero seats in parliament but 30 assembly seats. MH, zero seats in parli and nearly 100 seats in assembly. How do things change in just 6 months??. Delhi 2015 also was the same. This is mostly a North indian state phenomenon. Edited December 23, 2019 by Stan AF
randomGuy Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, mishra said: BJP state units are consistently proving useless. Anti incumbency or whatever, but despite that, people dont want to vote Congress, But they want a alternative Could be that Modi doesn't let bjp state leaders rise beyond a level by hogging all the limelight himself leading to losses in states? Edited December 23, 2019 by randomGuy
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 Raghubar Das notwithstanding a clean image was the 1st non-tribal CM in a largely tribal state, himself arrogant and largely inaccessible. He is losing his own seat as sitting CM Up next Delhi and then the crucial Bengal polls....does BJP have some CM face there? No. How long can one fight elections behind Modi's image? OK people will still vote in GE because there are other national issues, but they aren't obliged to repeat the same in assembly elections. BJP has to introspect, only losers blame EVM, voters....
mishra Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, randomGuy said: Could be that Modi doesn't let bjp state leaders rise beyond a level by hogging all the limelight himself leading to losses in states? Fact is, BJP is not getting over 50% vote share in any part of India. It is getting less tan 40% vote share. So it has to and must go in alliance with some one at local level. There are vote banks in every Constituency of India. In my opinion Local BJP units are failing on votebank manipulation mathematics for example putting right candidate and not propping up enugh division in opponent Camp or putting up independent candidates who can just be the difference. For example, same BJP in LS elections did not give tickets to its own elected MPs of 2014 On the other hand, Congress is doing it perfectly well.
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 Sorens are damn corrupt, they control the mining mafia in the state, Guruji (Shibu) has plenty of murder charges...don't be fooled by his baba like image. There is a 'Guruji Tax' in all matters in his state, even more corrupt than NDA's Paswan. They are going to loot the state dry, Jharkhand is very rich with plenty of mineral/forest/HEP resources. Even more important than Bihar purely because of the natural wealth. Also missionaries will get a free hand now, many tribal souls were harvested before BJP regime, last year the anti-forced conversion law was passed in the state.....
Lannister Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 Yes, root out the fascists one by one. But what is more important is to bury BJP/RSS in non-Hindi states and the cleaning up is going to start with north-eastern states. Laaloo 1
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Stan AF said: I can't understand how different state people can go from 0 or few seats to congress alliance to giving state governments power in just a matter of 6 months. Same in Haryana congress got zero seats in parliament but 30 assembly seats. MH, zero seats in parli and nearly 100 seats in assembly. How do things change in just 6 months??. Delhi 2015 also was the same. This is mostly a North indian state phenomenon. Vote for entirely different reasons. See the things that are in state list and compare them with national list. National security, foreign affairs, defence etc get more attention in the North Indian states cos of obvious reasons. Also BJP state leaders are mostly weak...Modi/Shah can get the job done in GE and their home state. How many regional BJP leaders from Haryana, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, MP, Chhattisgarh can you name? In Bengal BJP state unit is having to import people of questionable character from TMC, Left. Today's BJP is becoming like Congress under Indira where state leaders aren't allowed to shine....this will only ruin the long term prospects of the party. Edited December 23, 2019 by Gollum
vayuu1 Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gollum said: Vote for entirely different reasons. See the things that are in state list and compare them with national list. National security, foreign affairs, defence etc get more attention in the North Indian states cos of obvious reasons. Also BJP state leaders are mostly weak...Modi/Shah can get the job done in GE and their home state. How many regional BJP leaders from Haryana, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, MP, Chhattisgarh can you name? In Bengal BJP state unit is having to import people of questionable character from TMC, Left. Today's BJP is becoming like Congress under Indira where state leaders aren't allowed to shine....this will only ruin the long term prospects of the party. Disagree, fadvanis, yogi, shivraj, Raman singh are all state leaders yes there has been problem in state leadership, but anti incumbency will always be a factor, in states, people often discard that.
Singh bling Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 JMM Congress RJD 36% vote share BJP 34% AJSU 9% Whoever is writing BJP's strategy is utterly stupid. Not taking AJSU ,LJP is sheer arrogance. randomGuy, adi B and mishra 3
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 2020 elections: Delhi, Bihar 2021 elections: TN, Puducherry, Kerala, Assam, Bengal Tough road ahead, very tough. Bengal and Assam will be key...in case of former it will be a fight to protect the integrity of India.
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, vayuu1 said: Disagree, fadvanis, yogi, shivraj, Raman singh are all state leaders yes there has been problem in state leadership, but anti incumbency will always be a factor, in states, people often discard that. Fadnavis is overrated, besides Brahmin CM face in a state where the community is 7-8% is already a disadvantage. Yogi, we'll wait and watch. Shivraj and Raman Singh are reliable faces of BJP...sad that they lost, you can blame anti-incumbency there. What about Rajasthan? Who are the BJP faces in other states north of the Deccan plateau? That indecision cost them Odisha earlier this year. In Bengal they will be up against a powerful demoness in 18 months time, which will undoubtedly go in the history books as the most violent election in India's history, what are their plans? Edited December 23, 2019 by Gollum
randomGuy Posted December 23, 2019 Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gollum said: 2020 elections: Delhi, Bihar 2021 elections: TN, Puducherry, Kerala, Assam, Bengal Tough road ahead, very tough. Bengal and Assam will be key...in case of former it will be a fight to protect the integrity of India. In Delhi kejri is on strong footing with the free stuff
Gollum Posted December 23, 2019 Author Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, randomGuy said: In Delhi kejri is on strong footing with the free stuff If BJP loses Delhi, laanat. IIRC before 2014 ruling GOI always had govt in NCT.
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