G_B_ Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 hours ago, FischerTal said: Most of the new generation embrace socialism in the US. With an outbreak like this, i think those in their 40s and 50s will also embrace it as an alternative to the current political ideology in the US, which is market-oriented for republicans and moderate dems. Socialist spain royally bungled their response. Not saying reforms not needed, but i doubt politiciwl system determines actions In nyc the virus gained traction due to a feminist rally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Manny_Pacquiao said: Nothing you talk about is permanent. it is temporary. and there's no such thing as "going it alone". we are discussing what could happen in the future, not the present. In the future we'll all be dead. Let's stick to our life-spans. The world is staying Unipolar - without any question - for the next 20-30 years. Covid Pandemic has made that outcome more certain, not less. Do you disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, G_B_ said: Socialist spain royally bungled their response. Not saying reforms not needed, but i doubt politiciwl system determines actions In nyc the virus gained traction due to a feminist rally I think no healthcare system in the world was prepared for an outbreak like this, socialist or not. What I’m talking about is people looking for government to play a bigger role in their lives . For example, UBI is gaining traction among many of the youth. Crisis like this one make people wary about not just their health, but financial security as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, sandeep said: In the future we'll all be dead. Let's stick to our life-spans. The world is staying Unipolar - without any question - for the next 20-30 years. Covid Pandemic has made that outcome more certain, not less. Do you disagree? Why are you MAKING THIS ABOUT ME....IT IS NOT ME that is disagreeing, it is leading western intellectuals that define western foreign policy that are saying this. I am following what they are saying. Read the links i gave you in my previous post. If not, read this prediction from the NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE COUNCIL: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Newsroom/Reports and Pubs/2025_Global_Trends_Final_Report.pdf They wrote this in 2008. and the FIRST line on page 10 predicts a multipolar world order by 2025. i think they're off by about 5-10 years, but their scenarios look very realistic. A multipolar world doesn't forecast doom and gloom for america, just a weakened america. that is what i mentioned earlier. i'm not sure why you find this so sensitive. the national intelligence council aren't whatsapp uncles, they are seasoned diplomats and intelligence officers that get paid to forecast geopolitical trends. Are THEY wrong? sandeep 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manny_Pacquiao Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 by the way, here is the updated version of that National intelligence council report. fascinating to read, if you have the time: https://www.dni.gov/index.php/global-trends/trends-transforming-the-global-landscape if you don't, here's the takeaway, which they title "The bottomline": Quote The Bottomline Between states, the post-Cold War, unipolar moment has passed and the post-1945 rules based international order may be fading too. Some major powers and regional aggressors will seek to assert interests through force but will find results fleeting as they discover traditional, material forms of power less able to secure and sustain outcomes in a context of proliferating veto players. btw, these guys are forecasting a war between india and pakistan sometime around 2028. that should be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 23 hours ago, sandeep said: Wear. Masks. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, randomGuy said: Hydroxychloroquine is an age old drug.. tolerated very well by the body with very minimal to zero side effects especially in small dosages for short amount of time... The French doctor Didier raoult who put forth Azithromycin + hydroxychloroquine treatment protocol, was baffled on how this drug suddenly became poisonous through the media... Many Americans hate Trump too much such that even if he suggested a legitimate treatment, they would try to sabotage... I was the earliest on this board to share this treatment to spread the word... Much before even Trump shared it Chloroquine has negative cardiac side effects And, even HCQ is not completely free, but that is the best we have. But, from what I understand, these are both zinc ionophores (zinc is what blocks virus replication), and so may not have much of an effect on people with zinc-deficiency (like obese people etc.) Anyways, Quercetin is also a zinc-ionophore, and can be used in place of HCQ. I'm supplementing right now as a prophylactic. Edited March 30, 2020 by flamy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomGuy Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 hours ago, flamy said: Chloroquine has negative cardiac side effects And, even HCQ is not completely free, but that is the best we have. But, from what I understand, these are both zinc ionophores (zinc is what blocks virus replication), and so may not have much of an effect on people with zinc-deficiency (like obese people etc.) Anyways, Quercetin is also a zinc-ionophore, and can be used in place of HCQ. I'm supplementing right now as a prophylactic. Dr. Vladimir zelenko frm new york has been giving zinc in addition to hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin that would work for obese people, maybe normal people do not require zinc supplement.. so for them hydroxychloroquine and Azithromycin is sufficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 USA has tested ore than a mil with 160000 positive, 16% spread, India is still showing 7% spread, but more testing will extend the lockdown, mortality rates are lesser than malaria and TB, so we can’t afford to raise it randomGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coffee_rules Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Next two weeks gone be tough for us, hitting very close to home. Stay safe, ICF Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 23 hours ago, coffee_rules said: USA has tested ore than a mil with 160000 positive, 16% spread, India is still showing 7% spread, but more testing will extend the lockdown, mortality rates are lesser than malaria and TB, so we can’t afford to raise it I don't know how correct this calculated mortality rate is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, coffee_rules said: Next two weeks gone be tough for us, hitting very close to home. Stay safe, ICF Americans. Once death count reaches 25, It reaches to 2500 in less than 20 days. once it reaches 2500, within a week , you realise you are loosing battle. Everyone gets scared. So, watch out for India death counts. EU and US are done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FischerTal Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 100-200k deaths predicted in 2 weeks. China tu gaya bc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishra Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Buy Gilead Sciences stocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, mishra said: Buy Gilead Sciences stocks Do they have a vaccine? It was 65$ or something 2 months back. Its mostly hope than any actual trial happening mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 The US seems so effed up, the death rates are accelerating day by day Trump seems completely out of his depth, his press conferences have been so disjointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, chewy said: The US seems so effed up, the death rates are accelerating day by day Trump seems completely out of his depth, his press conferences have been so disjointed Eventual death rate will be higher than 3%. We have to see how many are recovering. In US, 7000 odd recovered and 4000 odd dead. In India, 133 recovered, 38 dead. See the deads and recovery ratio. Edited April 1, 2020 by rkt.india Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, mishra said: Buy Gilead Sciences stocks I'm holding them at a loss for years. Remdesivir's efficacy is not proven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandeep Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 3 hours ago, diga said: Do they have a vaccine? It was 65$ or something 2 months back. Its mostly hope than any actual trial happening They are extremely unlikely to make any serious profit from Covid. At best, they will get good publicity thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cliff Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 4 hours ago, mishra said: Buy Gilead Sciences stocks I am looking at Zoom Video Communications . mishra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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