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Opposition team Australia remove Australia from query
Start of match date greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1995 remove greater than or equal to 1 Jan 1995 from query
Wicketkeeper not as wicketkeeper remove not as wicketkeeper from query
Involving all of the players GD McGrath (AUS) remove GD McGrath (AUS) from query or SK Warne (AUS) remove SK Warne (AUS) from query
Batting position between 1 and 3 remove between 1 and 3 from query
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
VVS Laxman (INDIA) 1999-2001 5 9 0 633 281 70.33 1001 63.23 2 2 1 98 0 investigate this query
V Sehwag (INDIA) 2004-2004 3 6 1 286 155 57.20 409 69.92 1 1 1 42 0 investigate this query
Saeed Anwar (PAK) 1999-1999 3 6 0 282 119 47.00 484 58.26 1 2 1 38 1 investigate this query
HJH Marshall (NZ) 2005-2005 3 6 0 269 146 44.83 622 43.24 1 1 1 38 1 investigate this query
MP Vaughan (ENG) 2002-2005 6 12 0 537 177 44.75 959 55.99 2 0 1 61 5 investigate this query
AP Gurusinha (SL) 1995-1996 3 6 0 242 143 40.33 588 41.15 1 0 0 21 1

 

 

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Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
BC Lara (WI) 1996-2005 9 16 1 1007 226 67.13 1729 58.24 4 2 0 130 8 investigate this query
KP Pietersen (ENG) 2005-2007 8 16 2 804 158 57.42 1420 56.61 2 5 1 80 13 investigate this query
R Dravid (INDIA) 1999-2004 4 6 0 332 180 55.33 735 45.17 1 1 0 37 1 investigate this query
CL Cairns (NZ) 1997-2001 7 11 0 557 109 50.63 879 63.36 1 4 0 62 15 investigate this query
GP Thorpe (ENG) 1995-2001 8 15 2 598 138 46.00 1060 56.41 2 3 1 82 0 investigate this query
WJ Cronje (SA) 1997-1998 5 9 1 367 88 45.87 819 44.81 0 4 2 38 3 investigate this query
JH Kallis (SA) 1997-2006 9 17 3 624 111 44.57 1424 43.82 1 5 0 76 1 investigate this query
NJ Astle (NZ) 2000-2005 11 21 2 811 156* 42.68 1507 53.81 1 5 1 108 1 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar (INDIA) 1999-2004 7 14 0 592 126 42.28 1067 55.48 2 4 1 76 3 investigate this query
PD Collingwood (ENG) 2005-2007 6 12 1 450 206 40.90 1054 42.69 1 1 0 46 2 investigate this query
HP Tillakaratne (SL) 1995-1996 3 6 0 245 119 40.83 592 41.38 1 1 0 17 0
Edited by zen
Posted

From those on the list, below would be a good top 6 to take on that Aus 11 

 

Sehwag

Anwar/Vaughan 

Laxman 

Lara

Pieterson 

Kallis/Cairns (batsman who can bowl v bowler who can bat) 

 

 

 

 

 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Rasgulla said:

Where is our Ailiaaaa :blink: Busy bashing minnows like Kenya and Uganda?  You are exposing that fraud in every thread you make:hmmm:

Ailaa is truly an underachieving genius! Where he overachieved was wearing a sari and posing as a Hijra! :giggle:

Edited by Audiophile
Posted

Digging and comparing 3 tests performances to put down a great is a low. And mocking a great is no great shakes. Dravid shat stones in 99 and o4 and in SA when the going was tough. If anybody saw the 1998 series of Aus when Sachin and Azhar decimated Warne , you would know the difference between chalk and cheese. Sachin had 16 100s between 07-10 . So there will be peaks not in some organized stat gazing. Quit and watch videos or read match reports. Otherwise only trolls will mock greatness. It is not easy to maintain consistency for 24 years in cricket

Posted
12 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

And mocking a great is no great shakes. Dravid shat stones in 99 and o4 and in SA when the going was tough. 

:hmmmm:

Posted
Just now, coffee_rules said:

I cherry picked stats and mocked a great. It was an example of the exercise like OP

You make a lot of assumption. This is a discussion on "batting when both McGrath and Warne are playing". Almost everyone on the list is an accomplished player with good career highlights. Some players would be appreciated for their good performances, some pointed out for their average ones. 

 

If you want to point out or praise a player, feel free to do so but within the parameters of the topic (the title describes it). 

 

Posted (edited)

^^Dravid has 4 tests 332 runs with one score of 180. It is a skewed analysis to show his high ave, while he averaged 30.x in other 5 innings. So your sample size for the OP is too low 

Edited by coffee_rules
Posted
48 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Whenever I see this picture, it makes me go :rofl: .... Don't know what inspired him to dress up like that 

Huh? Are you that gullible to think it’s real? It’s obviously fake. 

Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, zen said:

 

Whenever I see this picture, it makes me go :rofl: .... Don't know what inspired him to dress up like that 

I will classify you as a troll and won’t  respond to your statsguru digging. Are you a genuine person?

Edited by coffee_rules
Posted
2 minutes ago, coffee_rules said:

^^Dravid has 4 tests 332 runs with one score of 180. It is a skewed analysis to show his high ave, while he averaged 30.x in other 5 innings. So you sample size is too low 

First of all, the thread is not about any particular player. The data on how batsmen performed in top order and middle order per the topic. There is no preference for one player or the other. So what you are trying to suggest is outside the scope of the topic (there is no point for me to over such basics and to spoon feed) 

 

If you are looking at only Dravid & Sachin, when both batted in MO, Dravid has a better average. If Sachin batted in top order like Dravid, his average could have been even less than Dravid's or if Dravid batted more in the MO, he could have a better avg. 

 

 

On a side note, since you mentioned vs SA, when both Donald & Pollock play:

 

#1-3

 

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Involving all of the players AA Donald (SA) remove AA Donald (SA) from query or SM Pollock (SA) remove SM Pollock (SA) from query
Batting position between 1 and 3 remove between 1 and 3 from query
Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 3 remove matches played greater than or equal to 3 from query and runs scored greater than or equal to 100 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 100 from query
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
R Dravid 1997-2000 4 8 0 337 148 42.12 939 35.88 1 1 0 48 0

 

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Primary team India remove India from query
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Wicketkeeper not as wicketkeeper remove not as wicketkeeper from query
Involving all of the players AA Donald (SA) remove AA Donald (SA) from query or SM Pollock (SA) remove SM Pollock (SA) from query
Batting position between 4 and 7 remove between 4 and 7 from query
Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 3 remove matches played greater than or equal to 3 from query and runs scored greater than or equal to 100 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 100 from query
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
SC Ganguly 1997-2000 3 5 0 196 73 39.20 379 51.71 0 2 0 33 3 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar 1996-2000 5 10 0 387 169 38.70 721 53.67 1 1 0 58 2 investigate this query
M Azharuddin 1996-2000 4 8 0 271 115 33.87 372 72.84 2 0 0 39 4 investigate this query

 

 

Maybe such discussions are not for you :dontknow:

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, zen said:

First of all, the thread is not about any particular player. The data on how batsmen performed in top order and middle order per the topic. There is no preference for one player or the other. So what you are trying to suggest is outside the scope of the topic (there is no point for me to over such basics and to spoon feed) 

 

If you are looking at only Dravid & Sachin, when both batted in MO, Dravid has a better average. If Sachin batted in top order like Dravid, his average could have been even less than Dravid's or if Dravid batted more in the MO, he could have a better avg. 

 

 

On a side note, since you mentioned vs SA, when both Donald & Pollock play:

 

#1-3

 

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Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team South Africa remove South Africa from query
Wicketkeeper not as wicketkeeper remove not as wicketkeeper from query
Involving all of the players AA Donald (SA) remove AA Donald (SA) from query or SM Pollock (SA) remove SM Pollock (SA) from query
Batting position between 1 and 3 remove between 1 and 3 from query
Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 3 remove matches played greater than or equal to 3 from query and runs scored greater than or equal to 100 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 100 from query
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
R Dravid 1997-2000 4 8 0 337 148 42.12 939 35.88 1 1 0 48 0

 

#4-7

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Primary team India remove India from query
Opposition team South Africa remove South Africa from query
Wicketkeeper not as wicketkeeper remove not as wicketkeeper from query
Involving all of the players AA Donald (SA) remove AA Donald (SA) from query or SM Pollock (SA) remove SM Pollock (SA) from query
Batting position between 4 and 7 remove between 4 and 7 from query
Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 3 remove matches played greater than or equal to 3 from query and runs scored greater than or equal to 100 remove runs scored greater than or equal to 100 from query
Ordered by batting average (descending)
Page 1 of 1 Showing 1 - 3 of 3   First pageFirst Previous pagePrevious Next Next page Last Last page dblBakArwB.gifReturn to query menu
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Overall figures
Player Span Mat Inns NO Runs HS AveDescending BF SR 100 50 0 4s 6s  
SC Ganguly 1997-2000 3 5 0 196 73 39.20 379 51.71 0 2 0 33 3 investigate this query
SR Tendulkar 1996-2000 5 10 0 387 169 38.70 721 53.67 1 1 0 58 2 investigate this query
M Azharuddin 1996-2000 4 8 0 271 115 33.87 372 72.84 2 0 0 39 4 investigate this query

 

 

Maybe such discussions are not for you :dontknow:

Yes, sample size of 3 to prove a skewed statistical analysis is not for me. Will keep out to let you troll on Sachin morphed pics. Enjoy. 
 

BTW, I have watched most of these games and followed scorecards and match reports as it happened, these are not evident on statsguru

Edited by coffee_rules

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