Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) The guy has been a giant killer- Gotten players like Gayle, Kohli quite a number of times His numbers have been as good as bumrah in IPL, ppl have this craze to disreghard someone for the obsession of speed but if someone is getting the job done he needs to be credited specially with so many limitations. Always believed if u can swing the ball big enough u can do well in t20 coz half ur overs wud be covered with new ball and new white ball under lights does swing for few overs eg- BK, Chahar . Sandeep: 105 wickets, 24.39 average, 7.74 economy, 18.90 strike-rate. BBI - 4/20 Bumrah: 105 wickets, 24.21 average, 7.46 economy, 19.46 strike-rate. BBI - 4/20 This is not a small sample that to against the best t20 bowler of India Bunny no.1 Bunny no.2 Chris Gayle v Sandeep Sharma in IPL Cricket: 59 balls 64 runs 4 wickets Avg: 16.00 - Run Rate: 6.50 Balls per Wicket: 14.7 Have also gotten Rohit sharma 3 times Edited October 31, 2020 by Ankit_sharma03 The Dark Horse, Gollum, AuxiliA and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) He is good for slow pitches. However if the pitch or conditions offer nothing he is cannon fodder with those loopy full length deliveries and knuckle balls. He can’t bat and can’t field. Decent utility bowler to have in your arsenal . I mean we shell money for Udana’s and other foregin trundlers so a Indian domestic warhorse making money is fine by me. However he starts in every game and that is a concern. Edited October 31, 2020 by maniac AuxiliA and New guy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, maniac said: He is good for slow pitches. However if the pitch or conditions offer nothing he is cannon fodder with those loopy full length deliveries and knuckle balls. U think his overall number wud be at par with bumrah had he just played on slower pitches. This is not a small sample and look at his bunnies - gayle and kohli whom he wud have mostly bowled in chinnaswamy, PCA or Hyderabad stadium all flat decks On absolute flat decks most bowlers will go for runs No matter what white ball under light swing for few overs which is what he has thrived on 5 minutes ago, maniac said: Decent utility bowler to have in your arsenal . I mean we shell money for Udana’s and other foregin trundlers so a Indian domestic warhorse making money is fine by me. However he starts in every game and that is a concern. The point is he gets his job done most days , shudnt disregard someone coz his speed is less by saying let him make money as trundler.....he deserves every bit of it. His strength is swing and variation at end , we can disregard those as much as possible but T20 is about variations. He may not get fifers but if he can get guys like gayle , kohli, rohit at start he basically has dented the opposition Put Sandeep vs Umesh, Aaron, Ishant or many new speed guns who have come every season in disappeared in a season or 2 in IPL auction ill take Sandeep any day over those guys beetle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, Ankit_sharma03 said: U think his overall number wud be at par with bumrah had he just played on slower pitches. This is not a small sample and look at his bunnies - gayle and kohli whom he wud have mostly bowled in chinnaswamy, PCA or Hyderabad stadium all flat decks On absolute flat decks most bowlers will go for runs No matter what white ball under light swing for few overs which is what he has thrived on The point is he gets his job done most days , shudnt disregard someone coz his speed is less by saying let him make money as trundler.....he deserves every bit of it. His strength is swing and variation at end , we can disregard those as much as possible but T20 is about variations. He may not get fifers but if he can get guys like gayle , kohli, rohit at start he basically has dented the opposition Put Sandeep vs Umesh, Aaron, Ishant or many new speed guns who have come every season in disappeared in a season or 2 in IPL auction ill take Sandeep any day over those guys you can’t carry a guy who can’t field l,Cant bowl and is useless after the first 2 overs, has no upside in terms of age and new skills. Sure he did well within his limitations and made good money all these years. May be will be retained or purchased by someone else for a season or 2. Definitely better than the Hoodas of the world. However let’s not hype him, good utility cricketer who maximized his skill and so happy for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Realist Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, maniac said: you can’t carry a guy who can’t field l,Cant bowl and is useless after the first 2 overs, has no upside in terms of age and new skills. Sure he did well within his limitations and made good money all these years. May be will be retained or purchased by someone else for a season or 2. Definitely better than the Hoodas of the world. However let’s not hype him, good utility cricketer who maximized his skill and so happy for him Across the history of the IPL that's at least half of the journeymen Aussies that have been signed up, made easy money and done nothing of substance. So no issues with a honest trier like Sharma playing consistently and getting rewarded for it. Agree he's not exceptional and probably not international level but he fulfils the role well for his IPL team. Ankit_sharma03, The Dark Horse, nevada and 4 others 1 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandeep99 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 He is good when conditions suit him. Watson killed him and helped CSK won 2018 tournament literally from nowhere. he was massacred in that match.. velu, express bowling and speedheat 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 5 hours ago, maniac said: you can’t carry a guy who can’t field l,Cant bowl and is useless after the first 2 overs, has no upside in terms of age and new skills. Sure he did well within his limitations and made good money all these years. May be will be retained or purchased by someone else for a season or 2. Definitely better than the Hoodas of the world. However let’s not hype him, good utility cricketer who maximized his skill and so happy for him Again the stats don't lie. He had been on par with bumrah AND been good in death overs too. Just becaus you hate or are prejudiced because of laxk of pace doesn't make stats lie sscomp32 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Sandeep99 said: He is good when conditions suit him. Watson killed him and helped CSK won 2018 tournament literally from nowhere. he was massacred in that match.. and? Even the best bowlers have been hit. The stats shown he has been one of the mkdt consistent bowlers in ALL conditions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 4 hours ago, The Realist said: Across the history of the IPL that's at least half of the journeymen Aussies that have been signed up, made easy money and done nothing of substance. So no issues with a honest trier like Sharma playing consistently and getting rewarded for it. Agree he's not exceptional and probably not international level but he fulfils the role well for his IPL team. cold hard stats show he is exceptional in IPL. Just because some of you are prejudiced based solely on speeedguns doesn't make your claim true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) . Edited November 1, 2020 by New guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vk1 Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Sandeep is good but crappiest of comparison. Highly unfair on Bumrah. Stan AF, New guy and speedheat 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New guy Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vk1 said: Sandeep is good but crappiest of comparison. Highly unfair on Bumrah. Unfortunately, facts don't care for your feelings They have identical stats with same number of matches, everything from wickets, economy, average, strike rate and best performance are identical Edited November 1, 2020 by New guy speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajju Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 But Bumrah has good record against Dhoni sandy only good against Rohit Kohli so even stats are same Bumrah ahead of Sandy speedheat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Sandeep99 said: He is good when conditions suit him. Watson killed him and helped CSK won 2018 tournament literally from nowhere. he was massacred in that match.. Most players are condition dependent only, if the ball moves all these hacks will fall like a pack of cards He has even massacred a t20 top bowler like Rashid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McCoy Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Shane Watson disagrees velu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankit_sharma03 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 Sandeep gets Rohit for 4th time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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