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35 minutes ago, wanted_desi said:


When you are as talented as Pant, no one can stop you. Pant is already most important batsman that opposition will target.

Not really. The luck factor is real when the margins are microscopically thin. If Iyer didn't get injured, Pant wouldn't have got a chance. With KLR scoring a ton and a half century, Pant probably would not have found a place in the next ODI assignment. Kohli, Rathore, and Shastri would neither have the eye nor the incentive to see what's obvious to most - that Pant deserves a place in every format.

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13 hours ago, sarchasm said:

Not really. The luck factor is real when the margins are microscopically thin. If Iyer didn't get injured, Pant wouldn't have got a chance. With KLR scoring a ton and a half century, Pant probably would not have found a place in the next ODI assignment. Kohli, Rathore, and Shastri would neither have the eye nor the incentive to see what's obvious to most - that Pant deserves a place in every format.

In Tests, all it needed was a 30-40 by Saha in the Adelaide test and Pant's international career would have been over for sometime, at least under this TM. And when he succeeded, these shameless leeches (coaches, captain and the selectors) have been claiming credit. I do hope sometime in future, Pant gets an opportunity to do everything to Kohli that he had to face.

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48 minutes ago, Adamant said:

If a player is actually talented no one can stop him from earning a permanent place. Sometimes it might take a while but eventually he will get there. 

They can....all they have to do is not give any chances when the player is in good nick and play him when he is truely out of form and low on confidence.Then write him off.

 

They almost did it to Pant. If not for 36 not out and baby Kohli...Pant would have not got the chance to comeback.

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2 hours ago, beetle said:

They can....all they have to do is not give any chances when the player is in good nick and play him when he is truely out of form and low on confidence.

That's what the did with Shaw and before that with Pant during India domestic season, same thing happened with Rahul at some point of time. But as Rahul is now aligned with captain and leadership group to play selfishly and secure your position he will not get dropped any longer.

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3 hours ago, Adamant said:

If a player is actually talented no one can stop him from earning a permanent place. Sometimes it might take a while but eventually he will get there. 

You have no understanding of how anything works. All teenagers and youngsters dont have build in mental maturity hence need guidance

 

Pant's confidence was way down and he was making mistakes after attack after attack by captain and coach. If not for that 36 all out, he would NEVER have played in the series and would have been lost forever like many other youngsters. Pant and India got extremely lucky with that

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2 hours ago, beetle said:

They can....all they have to do is not give any chances when the player is in good nick and play him when he is truely out of form and low on confidence.Then write him off.

 

They almost did it to Pant. If not for 36 not out and baby Kohli...Pant would have not got the chance to comeback.

Dont forget that they actively contribute to the low confidence by attacking them publicly, turning public sentiments against them, not giving them a steady run and shuffling their order every match. They have an entire army of chamchas and PR ready to attack these players. During one period, the camera and commentators would repeatedly try to find fault in Pant even when nothing happened. they would keep showing replays of how he stands, etc, trying desperately to build a negative perception. Media channels were writing big articles attacking him and every social media, from twitter to youtube was turned to attack Pant. 

 

I can imagine if Shastri and Kohli attacked players like Rahul and Pant in public, what they would have done to them in private meetings. Would have definitely have means to suck their confidence dry

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11 minutes ago, New guy said:

You have no understanding of how anything works. All teenagers and youngsters dont have build in mental maturity hence need guidance

 

Pant's confidence was way down and he was making mistakes after attack after attack by captain and coach. If not for that 36 all out, he would NEVER have played in the series and would have been lost forever like many other youngsters. Pant and India got extremely lucky with that

How can you say that, Saha would have been replaced after failing with the bat, if that wasn't the case then why was Pant even in the squad.? Matlab apna agenda suit karne ke liye kuch bhi bol do. 

You have zero understanding of what a once in a lifetime talent Pant is. 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, New guy said:

Dont forget that they actively contribute to the low confidence by attacking them publicly, turning public sentiments against them, not giving them a steady run and shuffling their order every match. They have an entire army of chamchas and PR ready to attack these players. During one period, the camera and commentators would repeatedly try to find fault in Pant even when nothing happened. they would keep showing replays of how he stands, etc, trying desperately to build a negative perception. Media channels were writing big articles attacking him and every social media, from twitter to youtube was turned to attack Pant. 

 

I can imagine if Shastri and Kohli attacked players like Rahul and Pant in public, what they would have done to them in private meetings. Would have definitely have means to suck their confidence dry

They are so shameless to claim credit for Pant's success now. And yet for the first ODI, they dropped him at the first available opportunity. They will do so once again when Pant gets out trying to play aggressively in a couple of matches.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, New guy said:

Dont forget that they actively contribute to the low confidence by attacking them publicly, turning public sentiments against them, not giving them a steady run and shuffling their order every match. They have an entire army of chamchas and PR ready to attack these players. During one period, the camera and commentators would repeatedly try to find fault in Pant even when nothing happened. they would keep showing replays of how he stands, etc, trying desperately to build a negative perception. Media channels were writing big articles attacking him and every social media, from twitter to youtube was turned to attack Pant. 

 

I can imagine if Shastri and Kohli attacked players like Rahul and Pant in public, what they would have done to them in private meetings. Would have definitely have means to suck their confidence dry

They did all this to bring back rhe selfish prick Dhoni for the T20 World Cup. It is the worst travesty in Indian cricket.

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17 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

They are so shameless to claim credit for Pant's success now. And yet for the first ODI, they dropped him at the first available opportunity. They will do so once again when Pant gets out trying to play aggressively in a couple of matches.

 

 

Again, only due to Iyer's injury Pant got in. This TM is a joke!

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2 hours ago, Adamant said:

How can you say that, Saha would have been replaced after failing with the bat, if that wasn't the case then why was Pant even in the squad.? Matlab apna agenda suit karne ke liye kuch bhi bol do. 

You have zero understanding of what a once in a lifetime talent Pant is. 

 

 

What if Saha had scored a 40 or 50? Then when would Pant's time come? Saha had played the same way for a long time but was still played before Pant. Why do you think he would have been replaced and when?

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3 hours ago, Adamant said:

How can you say that, Saha would have been replaced after failing with the bat, if that wasn't the case then why was Pant even in the squad.? Matlab apna agenda suit karne ke liye kuch bhi bol do. 

You have zero understanding of what a once in a lifetime talent Pant is. 

 

 

Pant was in the squad because selectors selected him. That did not mean Kohli wanted him. 

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53 minutes ago, beetle said:

Pant was in the squad because selectors selected him. That did not mean Kohli wanted him. 

Okay then Pant was out of odi and t20 squad earlier because of selectors, same goes for Sky, Kishan, Chahar and every other talent you people harp about. 

When you quote me for an argument try thinking is this the best effort you can come up with. 

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1 minute ago, Adamant said:

Okay then Pant was out of odi and t20 squad earlier because of selectors, same goes for Sky, Kishan, Chahar and every other talent you people harp about. 

When you quote me for an argument try thinking is this the best effort you can come up with. 

You asked why Pant was in the squad ,hence the answer.

Not that interested in arguing with you ,let alone putting effort into it .:rolleyes:

 

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