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30 minutes ago, Yoda-esque said:

Celebrities in India tweeting for Palestine were quiet on Bengal killings.Too many traitors amongst us.

Why only celebrities? You will find many such traitors everywhere who hides themselves under the guise of liberals. Imagine these guys and their party coming back to power and looting ruling India again.

 

Key is to NEVER allow them back to power at the center or else India is doomed. But due to this covid situation, it might very well happen in 2024 :sad_smile:

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Why only celebrities? You will find many such traitors everywhere who hides themselves under the guise of liberals. Imagine these guys and their party coming back to power and looting ruling India again.
 
Key is to NEVER allow them back to power at the center or else India is doomed. But due to this covid situation, it might very well happen in 2024 :sad_smile:
I hope people realize that.

We should never let this coalition of regional idiots and shekulars come to power,else we are doomed for good.

Responsibility is on each and every citizen to communicate what danger this ecosystem presents.

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Tale of two Indias 

 

 

We have never been so hopelessly divided. Even in the time of a pandemic, we are at each other's throats over everything. Even over things that don't concern us.

Previously, during the Uttarakhand floods or the Tsunami Indian political/socially active class as a whole rallied around to help w/o the viciousness and the whole shifting the blame that I see now.

 

Just to put things in perspective 4215 Indians died of Covid just yesterday. 1 unfortunate Indian woman was killed by a terror rocket attack in Israel. 

And here we are taking sides.

 

That politico you quoted has a responsibility to his constituency in Blr. And Blr is seeing a surge of cases over the last one week. Yeah sure his tweet is going to help Israel win in its struggle. I have never understood why the Indian Hindu right wing sees India as some natural ally of every country in the world where there is a conflict with Muslims.  Israel, France etc. These guys have been dealing with their own problems and issues for ever. More over some of these posts are in general anti Muslim. Yeah, good reason to spill some more bilge against Muslims in India because of some conflict in a far flung appendix of the world.

 

The Muslim right wing is even more retarded than the Hindu right wing. They'd damage public property  in India over what a French President says but would *never* fight to better the lot of its own people. AIMPLB litigated *against* scholarship for Muslim girls in certain institutes of higher learning because they are co-educational.

 

I feel we are just doomed. 

 

As for Swara Bhaskar, some of you guys attach far too much importance to what she says. That photo could be outside a land fill in Govandi or where ever for all you know. She is not a thought leader for anyone. She's played you guys well by riling up people and you give her few seconds publicity she doesn't deserve.

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4 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

We have never been so hopelessly divided. Even in the time of a pandemic, we are at each other's throats over everything. Even over things that don't concern us.

Previously, during the Uttarakhand floods or the Tsunami Indian political/socially active class as a whole rallied around to help w/o the viciousness and the whole shifting the blame that I see now.

 

Just to put things in perspective 4215 Indians died of Covid just yesterday. 1 unfortunate Indian woman was killed by a terror rocket attack in Israel. 

And here we are taking sides.

 

That politico you quoted has a responsibility to his constituency in Blr. And Blr is seeing a surge of cases over the last one week. Yeah sure his tweet is going to help Israel win in its struggle. I have never understood why the Indian Hindu right wing sees India as some natural ally of every country in the world where there is a conflict with Muslims.  Israel, France etc. These guys have been dealing with their own problems and issues for ever. More over some of these posts are in general anti Muslim. Yeah, good reason to spill some more bilge against Muslims in India because of some conflict in a far flung appendix of the world.

 

The Muslim right wing is even more retarded than the Hindu right wing. They'd damage public property  in India over what a French President says but would *never* fight to better the lot of its own people. AIMPLB litigated *against* scholarship for Muslim girls in certain institutes of higher learning because they are co-educational.

 

I feel we are just doomed. 

 

As for Swara Bhaskar, some of you guys attach far too much importance to what she says. That photo could be outside a land fill in Govandi or where ever for all you know. She is not a thought leader for anyone. She's played you guys well by riling up people and you give her few seconds publicity she doesn't deserve.


Not to digress, but your charge on Tejaswi is misplaced. He is tweeting on his personal space, it doesn’t mean he’s not doing anything for his constituency. You are not following or MSM doesn’t cover his work. He has uncovered a bed scam in BBMP where beds were sold for money. Arranging vaccine drives in various apt complexes which are hotbeds for spreading Covid. It looks like you are making him responsible for 4500 deaths and he is busy voicing support for Israel. 
 

You notice the support of Dharmics (I don’t call them RW) for Israel. It is not coming from anti-Muslim sentiment , but from the resistance of Nehruvian and Congress policy towards Israel. Ever since 1948, Indian governments never recognized Israel’s fight for existence and were proPLF, pro-Arafat. They did that only to appease the Muslim community for votes and on insistence of his Muslim colleagues and all Muslims of India calling Israel a sin. Why are Muslims of India so concerned about happenings far away? Back in 90s , I thought Arafat was like Mandela fighting oppression. After reading the fine print , my opinion has changed. NDA Govts of ABV and Modi have increased the trade with Israel and it is natural to support. Voices of Israelis on India, support for CAA, A370 is also noticeable. It is not one-sided from India

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Indians shouldn't bother about what happens in ME, always trouble brewing in that area. Israel can take care of itself with able support from Uncle Sam, regarding Palestine let Arab countries deal with the unrest. Comical to see Indians getting so invested in this conflict when we have a full-blown mega-crisis affecting every neighborhood in our country. I do have sympathies for Palestinians, but hate Hamas type groups. Israel is no innocent party like some of our RW folks believe, neither is their lobby working from US/Europe, am I wrong@Real McCoy @Jimmy Cliff?

 

Deaths/injuries of Indians working in that area is our concern, beyond that forget it. Pisses me off when my fellow countrymen are ill-treated in UAE/Saudi/Qatar or when nurses working in ISIS areas, Israel etc suffer for no fault of theirs. Condolences to Ms. Santosh's family, hope no other Indian is caught in the crossfire. That is the extent of my interest in this conflict. 

 

India has good relations with Israel as well as the Arab world. Trust our diplomats to do what is required. Can we switch focus back to the Chinese virus please? 

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Where does it say that?

The tweet where he mentions that Mamata has banned/deleted fake social media accounts indicates that he thinks Bengal murders are fake.Sly tweeting...

Come on now. That doesn't mean that he supports the killing of the BJP workers!

 

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1 hour ago, coffee_rules said:

Why no support for Muslims in Afghanistan, Shias getting maimed in Pakistan etc.?

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Don't know why you ask this?

 

Shias getting butchered in Pakistan has resulted in lot of vocal support and donation drives among Shias in India. In UP, generally speaking, Shias are the better educated/richer sect and have familial ties with Shias in Pakistan. Some groups even wanted Shias added to the CAA.

 

Other Muslims on Muslim (read: Sunni on Sunni/Sufi terror attacks/crimes etc) violence, will never see the same kind of traction. Because we are basically hypocrites. 

 

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Not to digress, but your charge on Tejaswi is misplaced. He is tweeting on his personal space, it doesn’t mean he’s not doing anything for his constituency. You are not following or MSM doesn’t cover his work. He has uncovered a bed scam in BBMP where beds were sold for money. Arranging vaccine drives in various apt complexes which are hotbeds for spreading Covid. It looks like you are making him responsible for 4500 deaths and he is busy voicing support for Israel. 
 

You notice the support of Dharmics (I don’t call them RW) for Israel. It is not coming from anti-Muslim sentiment , but from the resistance of Nehruvian and Congress policy towards Israel. Ever since 1948, Indian governments never recognized Israel’s fight for existence and were proPLF, pro-Arafat. They did that only to appease the Muslim community for votes and on insistence of his Muslim colleagues and all Muslims of India calling Israel a sin. Why are Muslims of India so concerned about happenings far away? Back in 90s , I thought Arafat was like Mandela fighting oppression. After reading the fine print , my opinion has changed. NDA Govts of ABV and Modi have increased the trade with Israel and it is natural to support. Voices of Israelis on India, support for CAA, A370 is also noticeable. It is not one-sided from India

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Not saying that Tejaswi is responsible for the deaths of all those people. He is the elected representative of an area. Twitter is a public platform. 

Why take sides? Israel will continue being our ally regardless. Palestinians will continue looking to us as independent arbiters. 

Sometimes there are advantages to keeping mum over yapping over stuff you aren't connected to or have any stake in.

Our PM went and canvassed for Trump. That was an even bigger disaster. Why are we so keen to gamble? And in the process anger the worlds only crumbling superpower while we have a hot border with the rising superpower.

 

What has an Indian politician tweeting this on a global platform achieved for India? Or his constituency? We have to be smarter than that.

 

Regarding your second para: How easily do you declare everything as appeasement? Yes Muslims may be unnecessarily concerned over Palestine. Yes they may see some imaginary ummah super glue which doesn't exist. But no one is going to vote for a paan chewing nehru topi wearing politician in India on the basis of foreign policy.  Also Indian foreign policy back in the day depended on our Cold War partners. Israel wasn't in the Soviet bichchu gang. They were in the Eagle gang. 

You can't use the bogey of Muslim appeasement everywhere. 

 

Lastly India doesn't give two hoots if Israel 'supports' us on CAA. Means nothing to us.

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The Right Wing's ( Dharmics as you call them) 'support' to Israel is mainly based on the religion of their opposition. Lets not delude ourselves here.

 

There are so many contentious border issues that China ( a rival, in the truest sense) has with Taiwan/Japan etc. Some instances of Chinese jets/military landing/making artificial islands inside territorial waters of other nations. Do you see this kind of support for the Taiwanese? Never. 

 

Its always when the other party ( mostly erring, I admit) is Muslim that the Indian right wing is active. Be it in France or Israel or the UK.

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36 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

Re: your first para

Not saying that Tejaswi is responsible for the deaths of all those people. He is the elected representative of an area. Twitter is a public platform. 

Why take sides? Israel will continue being our ally regardless. Palestinians will continue looking to us as independent arbiters. 

Sometimes there are advantages to keeping mum over yapping over stuff you aren't connected to or have any stake in.

Our PM went and canvassed for Trump. That was an even bigger disaster. Why are we so keen to gamble? And in the process anger the worlds only crumbling superpower while we have a hot border with the rising superpower.

 

What has an Indian politician tweeting this on a global platform achieved for India? Or his constituency? We have to be smarter than that.

 

Regarding your second para: How easily do you declare everything as appeasement? Yes Muslims may be unnecessarily concerned over Palestine. Yes they may see some imaginary ummah super glue which doesn't exist. But no one is going to vote for a paan chewing nehru topi wearing politician in India on the basis of foreign policy.  Also Indian foreign policy back in the day depended on our Cold War partners. Israel wasn't in the Soviet bichchu gang. They were in the Eagle gang. 

You can't use the bogey of Muslim appeasement everywhere. 

 

Lastly India doesn't give two hoots if Israel 'supports' us on CAA. Means nothing to us.


You are deluding yourself if you deny knowing about a Muslim veto power existed in Congress or still exists in India. 
 

You want to curtail Tehaswi’s right to FoE because he is an  MP?

 

O yes, support to CAA does when there are countries like USA, China, EU chiding India for passing laws internal to India, any support from outside matters diplomatically.

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25 minutes ago, Mariyam said:

@coffee_rules

 

The Right Wing's ( Dharmics as you call them) 'support' to Israel is mainly based on the religion of their opposition. Lets not delude ourselves here.

 

There are so many contentious border issues that China ( a rival, in the truest sense) has with Taiwan/Japan etc. Some instances of Chinese jets/military landing/making artificial islands inside territorial waters of other nations. Do you see this kind of support for the Taiwanese? Never. 

 

Its always when the other party ( mostly erring, I admit) is Muslim that the Indian right wing is active. Be it in France or Israel or the UK.

But why do people sympathize with Hamas, Palestine?

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