Bumrah’s bowling is lacking the zip

[Jay]

Just now, Baji-Rao said:

Australia was the greatest team of his era. And against India he fared well in the limited over. Every other country he has wiped them out. So if he doesn't perform against Australia he's a minnow basher? All countries except Australia were minnows to you then?

Only Test cricket I am referring to. Dint do well vs India or Australia. 

 

He wiped out the rest? England was utter trash in 90s. 

Kiwis were average. 

Who else?

 

Lanka? Ok 

 

He did well in s.africa iirc. Will give him that. 

 

Good bowler but not great to me. 

[Jay]

Just now, Baji-Rao said:

LMAO bruh. TIL all countries were trash except Australia. And if you performed against them all in the 90s you are a certified minnow basher. Amazing.  You also forgot the West Indies where he averages 23.

Kyle Jamieson for his recent first 50 wickets is being ga ga'd about but Waqar's first 231 wickets (test) and 273 wickets (odis) BOTH at 21 average is being told as minnow bashing. great chat mate.

Jamieson is no where near Waqar. He is just thriving in helpful conditions. 

 

Waqar did f all vs his arch rival and australia. Sorry not good enough. 

 

That's why I don't rate Pollock either. He was beyond abysmal vs australia. The only team that could challenge south africa away. 

 

I dont recall anyone every talking about how Waqar dominated a quality batsman. Yea maybe fodders like Atherton and co perhaps. 

 

He never dominated quality batsmen. 

 

He is just lucky he had a good peak at a time where most batsmen were either washed up, declining or too raw. This was until 1992. 

 

He averaged 17 odd since debut till 1993. 4 years in total. Post 1994 he was averaging 28-29. 

[Jay]

5 minutes ago, Baji-Rao said:

Isn't it insane how it lines up exactly with his back injury that occurred 2 weeks before the 92 world cup which forced him to not compete in that 1992 world cup during his prime and when he came back he significantly lost his pace?

Yes but coincidentally he also faced better batsmen post 1994. I would have loved to see his best version play post 1994. 

 

Bumrah is experiencing something similar right now. Post back injury. Let's see how bumrah recovers. 

 

Waqar is very good but I have a problem when people call him a great. Performance against top side and rivals matter.  

[ShoonyaSifar]

34 minutes ago, Baji-Rao said:

LMAO bruh. TIL all countries were trash except Australia. And if you performed against them all in the 90s you are a certified minnow basher. Amazing.  You also forgot the West Indies where he averages 23.

Kyle Jamieson for his recent first 50 wickets is being ga ga'd about but Waqar's first 231 wickets (test) and 273 wickets (odis) BOTH at 21 average is being told as minnow bashing. great chat mate.

 

23 minutes ago, Baji-Rao said:

Isn't it insane how it lines up exactly with his back injury that occurred 2 weeks before the 92 world cup which forced him to not compete in that 1992 world cup during his prime and when he came back he significantly lost his pace?

 A Baji-Rao defending Waqar.

 

@Gollum 

[Jay]

1 minute ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

 

 A Baji-Rao defending Waqar.

 

@Gollum 

Baji Mohammed tuglag Singham. 

[ShoonyaSifar]

5 minutes ago, Jay said:

Baji Mohammed tuglag Singham. 

Haha. I wonder why take so much pain to create Indian sounding ids and then give themselves away within a few posts

[Gollum]

56 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said:

 

 A Baji-Rao defending Waqar.

 

@Gollum 

Few years ago, padosis would be in character for months, maybe even years, they were that subtle.....and careful, difficult to crack.

 

Now getting busted on day 1, how the standards have fallen!!!!!

[RajBan]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

He is already well ahead of starc, rabada etc. He only has Cummins ahead. 

 

He Isa champion bowler. 

 

He will be back. 

 

His attitude is poor. When he fixes his mental issues, he will be back to his best. Otherwise he can quit. We have siraj, prasidh coming through. 

He is a good bowler in long format. I won't lable him as a champion bowler yet when he has distance to cover. 

 

ODI/T20 - He is a champion bowler.

[Sandeep99]

Bombrah is saving it for the IPL 2021 final against CSK. Who cares about these inconsequential matches.

[express bowling]

Bumrah has bowled with good accuracy today.

 

Has got good zip and bounce off the deck too ... hurried batters and the ball was flying through to Pant.

 

Looked in good rhythm.

 

Hit speeds of 88 mph to 90 mph regularly.

[putrevus]

8 hours ago, RajBan said:

Actually under the conditions Siraj is as good as Bumrah if not better. And he has performed every bit to get a long rope . It's a shame that Kohli did not play the bowler most suited to the conditions and who is on the best form.

Stop making Siraj into something he is not, he is not better than any of three fast bowlers playing in his match as of now.Team selection was spot on nothing wrong with team selection either.

Edited June 22, 2021 by putrevus

[RajBan]

Lol. Siraj's performance speak for himself. You or me don't need to amplify or belittle it.

[RajBan]

7 minutes ago, sarchasm said:

And Bumrah's performances, who has done it for longer and better, do not? Siraj has been unlucky to miss out and I would prefer him over Shami but your stupid comparisons with Bumrah isn't the way to go about it.

Nobody is denying what Bumrah has accomplished. But he has been off colour off late and even in this match. That's not to say Siraj ousts Bumrah but on form Siraj is ahead. 

Think about it , do we really need two spinners in the conditions? Would Siraj have been more impactful instead of one of the spinners? I can understand we playing 2-3 spinners in subcontinent but shouldn't there be horses for courses in a English pitch where there is tons of rain predicted .

 

[maniac]

Bumrah’s role should be the enforcer and Shami should be the guy attacking with new ball. Roles need to be reversed. 

[maniac]

On 6/22/2021 at 8:05 AM, sarchasm said:

Have enjoyed Bumrah's bowling. Laser like. Wickets will come.

Still waiting 

 

[sandsaims]

Bumrah  needs to know he isnt indisposible, drop him for a couple of games.

[Cricketics]

Not worried about Bumrah. He will be fine. He came off without match practice and same is true with most bowlers.

 

When not much runs are on board, bowlers in particilar fast bowlers will try hard.

 

Bumrah will be fine. Captaincy and batting is what needs to be fixed. Don’t blame bowlers when bowlers are just given 149 to defend. They  surely will try hard to defend and in search of wickets would end up leaking runs as their spells will be much shorter. 
 

Knee jerk reaction should be against batting. It was toothless. 

[Jay]

5 hours ago, Baji-Rao said:

bumrah is next wasim akram, shami next waqar younis, yep you heard it here first

He will be better than all. One bad game doesn't define his career. He is a ICC choker under kohli though. 

[Jay]

1 hour ago, Baji-Rao said:

funny cause last time i heard Kohli is responsible for giving India this pace attack 

He is still a trash captain. Pace attack was due to Ipl

[Jay]

19 minutes ago, Baji-Rao said:

oh please. Few months back Kohli the captain was being praised among one of the greatest captains in history and the best captain for India history in Test. And now whatever fits?

Bumrah is crap. All he has economy control but no ability to pick up wickets on demand, which is an essential to a bowler. He isnt declining you're seeing his true face after statpadded on minnow nations. Go look on statsguru yourself on both formats. Hopefully humbles you that Bumrah isn't the answer....

no sane fan ever praised that dunderhead except kohli fanboys. go see for yourself. no one from ICF apart form his equally dumb fanboys wanted him as captain. he got praised? praised by who? some leeching sycophants. please...

 

bumrah is a generational talent. one bad game doesnt mean squat. he may be a bottler but he will find his groove again. Post back injury he has struggled but his pace is still good. unless he is affected by the money and fame now that he is rich, i dont see him going anywhere. form is temporary. class is permanent. 

 

we just need to get rid of the poison in our team. pujara, kohli as captain(he can play as batsman if his ego lets him). siraj may takeover ishant.

 

we need hungry boys. dont need rich primadonnas.