Pujara, the hero of a hundred battles!

[Real McCoy]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

Even at 50% capacity, he has played 2 good knocks which is similar to or better than guys supposedly in good form - Rohit, KL, Jadeja and Pant, who in this test have only scored less than 50 runs combined. 
 

In the last test:

Rohit 19 & 59

KL 0 & 8

Jadeja 4 & 30

Pant 2 & 1

 

Therefore in the last 3 innings, only 1 good score from these 4 who are in good form  

 

 

I thought you were on vacation. why are you defending puji on vacation

[zen]

1 minute ago, Real McCoy said:

I thought you were on vacation. why are you defending puji on vacation

Still in my hotel room 9 15 am here   … quick posts while enjoying the views from the balcony  

[kubrickian]

Coming up Lord Rahane's fighting 32 and Lord Pujara's 24 off 150 balls to cement their place for another 25 innings at least.

[Real McCoy]

11 minutes ago, zen said:

Still in my hotel room 9 15 am here   … quick posts while enjoying the views from the balcony  

better enjoy the views than checking your phone. lets just say its not a good time to be a puji fan

[Serpico]

52 minutes ago, zen said:

I did mention 3 countries. Ind had never won a series in Aus in its history till Pujara made it happen 

Yes he'll always have that epic series. It was a one time thing which is okay

[zen]

3 minutes ago, Serpico said:

Yes he'll always have that epic series. It was a one time thing which is okay

 Plus tons of other performances including in Ind, SL (145*), Aus (2020-21 scored 3 50s in 4 innings in the last 2 tests), Eng, …

[Serpico]

2 minutes ago, zen said:

SL (145*), Aus (2020-21 scored 3 50s in 4 innings in the last 2 tests), Eng

I thought performance against Minnows doesn't matter?

 

He scored 3 50s in 8 innings in recent Aus tour, which is alright, but not earth shattering. I like that you just put dots for England, enough said about that.

 

So really its one exceptional series, one decent series in his long overseas sena career

 

 

[zen]

54 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

better enjoy the views than checking your phone. lets just say its not a good time to be a puji fan

Plan to catch a Gondola today https://www.banffjaspercollection.com/attractions/banff-gondola/hours-location/

 

[New guy]

1 hour ago, zen said:

I did mention 3 countries. Ind had never won a series in Aus in its history till Pujara made it happen 

Yes because of the bowlers even 40 and 50s won series while previously even big 100s and 200s didnt. Simple logic, attributing that win to Pujara is like attributing a condom packet for preventing pregnancy, the condom packet was just there to keep the condom in good shape, not to do the actual sex

[Lord]

7 minutes ago, New guy said:

Yes because of the bowlers even 40 and 50s won series while previously even big 100s and 200s didnt. Simple logic, attributing that win to Pujara is like attributing a condom packet for preventing pregnancy, the condom packet was just there to keep the condom in good shape, not to do the actual sex

 

 

[zen]

16 minutes ago, New guy said:

Yes because of the bowlers even 40 and 50s won series while previously even big 100s and 200s didnt. Simple logic, attributing that win to Pujara is like attributing a condom packet for preventing pregnancy, the condom packet was just there to keep the condom in good shape, not to do the actual sex

The best performance by an Indian batsman overseas  

 

The creator of history tired all Aus bowlers to submission

 

Those 3-4 would be back in the hut in no time to give any advantage to bowlers. After Sehwag hit that blistering 80 to set up a win for Ind against Eng, a certain someone scored a 100 to remark that he always wanted to play such an inning. Yes, after 130 or so odd tests iirc at that point in time to sum up the careers  

[Vijy]

2 hours ago, zen said:

The best performance by an Indian batsman overseas  

 

The creator of history tired all Aus bowlers to submission

 

Those 3-4 would be back in the hut in no time to give any advantage to bowlers. After Sehwag hit that blistering 80 to set up a win for Ind against Eng, a certain someone scored a 100 to remark that he always wanted to play such an inning. Yes, after 130 or so odd tests iirc at that point in time to sum up the careers  

Poor knowledge of history. What about Amarnath's 598 runs in 5 tests against Roberts, Holding, Marshall and Garner at their peak in 1982-83? Those pitches had much more spice in them than the 2018 tracks in Oz, which were not that challenging apart from the one in Perth. The Sydney test in particular was very flat. Chepu's 2018 series reminds me more of Manju's 1989 series against Wasim, Waqar, Qadir, and Imran. He ground his way to 569 runs in 4 tests against a top-notch bowling attack but on flattish tracks.

 

Also, to respond to some old post from earlier, WI are not minnows now in home conditions. Holder, Gabriel, Roach all have fantastic home records (esp. the former). Having a high avg against them is not trivial. Likewise, a low avg. against them cannot be dismissed as minnows.

 

I won't deny that Sehwag was a match winner in SC or that Chepu had one of the great overseas tours of Oz in 2018 - these are facts. Similarly, it is also true that SRT and to a lesser extent Dravid also choked in some crucial conditions - that is also a fact. A third fact is that, technically speaking, both SRT and Dravid were far superior to any player right now (includes Rat and Chepu); had they had a bit more mental strength, they would have easily averaged 60-65+. And my last fact is that Amarnath was the greatest overseas bat that India has ever had. He performed against peak WI, he performed against peak Pak (which was probably 2nd strongest in the world) + peak Pak home umpiring.

[zen]

18 hours ago, Vijy said:

Poor knowledge of history. What about Amarnath's 598 runs in 5 tests against Roberts, Holding, Marshall and Garner at their peak in 1982-83? Those pitches had much more spice in them than the 2018 tracks in Oz, which were not that challenging apart from the one in Perth. The Sydney test in particular was very flat. Chepu's 2018 series reminds me more of Manju's 1989 series against Wasim, Waqar, Qadir, and Imran. He ground his way to 569 runs in 4 tests against a top-notch bowling attack but on flattish tracks.

 

Also, to respond to some old post from earlier, WI are not minnows now in home conditions. Holder, Gabriel, Roach all have fantastic home records (esp. the former). Having a high avg against them is not trivial. Likewise, a low avg. against them cannot be dismissed as minnows.

 

I won't deny that Sehwag was a match winner in SC or that Chepu had one of the great overseas tours of Oz in 2018 - these are facts. Similarly, it is also true that SRT and to a lesser extent Dravid also choked in some crucial conditions - that is also a fact. A third fact is that, technically speaking, both SRT and Dravid were far superior to any player right now (includes Rat and Chepu); had they had a bit more mental strength, they would have easily averaged 60-65+. And my last fact is that Amarnath was the greatest overseas bat that India has ever had. He performed against peak WI, he performed against peak Pak (which was probably 2nd strongest in the world) + peak Pak home umpiring.

Your first paragraph: I am referring to the “since 1990 period” (which I have mentioned many times). When your team creates history, you also get bonus for your performance. 

 

Your 2nd paragraph: The recent WI is relatively still a minnow. In tests, its downfall began in 1995 when Aus beat them at home. Great series that one.
 

Your 3rd paragraph: more concerned with impact than “bookish technical solidity”. Best example of impact batting is Bradman. 

[Serpico]

22 hours ago, zen said:

After Sehwag hit that blistering 80 to set up a win for Ind against Eng, a certain someone scored a 100 to remark that he always wanted to play such an inning. Yes, after 130 or so odd tests iirc at that point in time to sum up the careers

That comment was about scoring match winning 100 in 4th innings. Its quite rare to happen, only 4 Indian batsmen have done it. Pujara played 90 matches and hasn't done it either

[zen]

Flying back today … wonderful vacation including seeing that a 50% Pujara is batting on 50 odd 

 

As the saying goes, zen master can tell no wrong

[NameGoesHere]

Pancho please tell this confused ICFer whether he’s a hero or not.

 

One day I log in, uski ma ki jai.

 

Next day, Pooji I want to have your babies.

 

Third day, maaro saale ko. 
 

 

 

[zen]

Long weekend here and delighted to wake up to another Pujara performance translate to another win in SENA 

 

Highlights in SENA since 2018:

2018 in SA - a fighting 50 to help Ind win a test

2018 in Eng - carried his bat through with a 130 odd 

2018-2019 in Aus - 500+ runs w/ 3 100s 

2020-2021 in Aus - 3 50s in the last two tests, tons of balls faced in pain 

2021 in Eng - a 50% Pujara already played impactful knocks, along with a lone warrior 90 odd 

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by zen

[zen]

PS in SENA since his 132* in Eng, among those who have played in at least 10 matches in total covering 3 SENA countries:

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or South Africa

Home or away away (home of opposition)

Start of match date greater than or equal to 30 Aug 2018

Batting position between 1 and 7

Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 10

Ordered by batting average (descending)

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
CA Pujara	2018-2021	16	31	2	1293	193	44.58	3526	36.67	4	7	3	142	2
RR Pant	2018-2021	15	26	2	963	159*	40.12	1447	66.55	2	3	1	100	16
V Kohli	2018-2021	13	24	0	769	123	32.04	1708	45.02	1	5	3	93	1
AM Rahane	2018-2021	16	30	1	784	112	27.03	1903	41.19	1	4	3	71	6

 

11 50+ scores, along with impactful 40s like in this series in Eng, in the last 31 innings in SENA! ... 3,500+ balls faced, which is roughly 122 balls per completed innings

Edited September 6, 2021 by zen

[Samcric]

11 minutes ago, zen said:

PS in SENA since his 132* in Eng, among those who have played in at least 10 matches in total covering 3 SENA countries:

Primary team India

Opposition team Australia  or England  or New Zealand  or South Africa

Home or away away (home of opposition)

Start of match date greater than or equal to 30 Aug 2018

Batting position between 1 and 7

Qualifications matches played greater than or equal to 10

Ordered by batting average (descending)

 

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Inns	NO	Runs	HS	Ave	BF	SR	100	50	0	4s	6s
CA Pujara	2018-2021	16	31	2	1293	193	44.58	3526	36.67	4	7	3	142	2
RR Pant	2018-2021	15	26	2	963	159*	40.12	1447	66.55	2	3	1	100	16
V Kohli	2018-2021	13	24	0	769	123	32.04	1708	45.02	1	5	3	93	1
AM Rahane	2018-2021	16	30	1	784	112	27.03	1903	41.19	1	4	3	71	6

 

11 50+ scores, along with impactful 40s like in this series in Eng, in the last 31 innings in SENA! ... 3,500+ balls faced, which is roughly 122 balls per completed innings

 

Yet gets out to the very first ball that he faces with the new ball. In current form, He is the worst batsman against new ball in swinging conditions except may be Rahane.

 

 

Edited September 6, 2021 by Samcric

[Samcric]

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Edited September 6, 2021 by Samcric